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Re: Model Mom Calls Her Religion a Cult
« Reply #105 on: March 04, 2012, 09:27:46 PM »
My wife DVR'd it for me. I must say, Rabbi Boteach was better then I expected. 
 
Is there any way you could upload it somewhere and share the link?
I wasn't very impressed with him saying that he would be fine if his daughters became models. I have a feeling he wouldn't be too excited if his daughters pics were on magazine covers in suggestive revealing poses. (Not that Perry is on magazines - but her revealing pics are out there on the internet)

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Re: Model Mom Calls Her Religion a Cult
« Reply #107 on: March 04, 2012, 09:45:35 PM »
Is there any way you could upload it somewhere and share the link?
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Re: Model Mom Calls Her Religion a Cult
« Reply #108 on: March 04, 2012, 10:11:50 PM »
were can i watch the full episode of Dr. Phill show?

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Re: Model Mom Calls Her Religion a Cult
« Reply #109 on: March 04, 2012, 10:25:24 PM »
Is there any way you could upload it somewhere and share the link?
I wasn't very impressed with him saying that he would be fine if his daughters became models. I have a feeling he wouldn't be too excited if his daughters pics were on magazine covers in suggestive revealing poses. (Not that Perry is on magazines - but her revealing pics are out there on the internet)

No idea, but If you can tell me how to do it, I will try and get to it tomorrow.

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Re: Model Mom Calls Her Religion a Cult
« Reply #110 on: March 04, 2012, 10:27:34 PM »
No idea, but If you can tell me how to do it, I will try and get to it tomorrow.
You can always do it the old-fashioned way with a video camera :D
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Re: Model Mom Calls Her Religion a Cult
« Reply #111 on: March 04, 2012, 11:10:19 PM »
I wasn't very impressed with him saying that he would be fine if his daughters became models. I have a feeling he wouldn't be too excited if his daughters pics were on magazine covers in suggestive revealing poses. (Not that Perry is on magazines - but her revealing pics are out there on the internet)
+100

I would just say it a little clearer. How low could that man stoop to get another 15 minutes of fame . Does he have any other guiding light besides the almighty Dollar. The one point in this story that is clear cut and accepted by all segments of orthodoxy and easily explainable to any audience is why a women shouldn't be modeling in underwear. And this "Rabbi" instead says that he would be fine with his daughters doing such things. At worst he could of given a liberal response and say I don't judge someone by their actions and love and respect every jew for who they are. But that wasn't enough he had to condone her actions and then offer his family on the alter of sexual commercialization.


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Re: Model Mom Calls Her Religion a Cult
« Reply #112 on: March 04, 2012, 11:24:53 PM »
+100

I would just say it a little clearer. How low could that man stoop to get another 15 minutes of fame . Does he have any other guiding light besides the almighty Dollar. The one point in this story that is clear cut and accepted by all segments of orthodoxy and easily explainable to any audience is why a women shouldn't be modeling in underwear. And this "Rabbi" instead says that he would be fine with his daughters doing such things. At worst he could of given a liberal response and say I don't judge someone by their actions and love and respect every jew for who they are. But that wasn't enough he had to condone her actions and then offer his family on the alter of sexual commercialization.
I watched all the segments. Did I miss this part?
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Re: Model Mom Calls Her Religion a Cult
« Reply #113 on: March 04, 2012, 11:38:37 PM »
I watched all the segments. Did I miss this part?
IIRC it was on a clip on the Dr.'s website mentioned in the OP. Not on the youtube clips.

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Re: Model Mom Calls Her Religion a Cult
« Reply #114 on: March 04, 2012, 11:38:51 PM »
You can always do it the old-fashioned way with a video camera :D

Ughh. Those are always the worst downloads! lol

Dan, if you want, we can Skype, and I'll just face my computer to the TV and play it off the DVR  ;D

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Re: Model Mom Calls Her Religion a Cult
« Reply #115 on: March 04, 2012, 11:39:23 PM »
I watched all the segments. Did I miss this part?
http://drphil.com/slideshows/slideshow/6774/?id=6774&showID=1804

Click on Pearl is outraged by Johnny’s comments.

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Re: Model Mom Calls Her Religion a Cult
« Reply #116 on: March 04, 2012, 11:50:22 PM »
http://drphil.com/slideshows/slideshow/6774/?id=6774&showID=1804

Click on Pearl is outraged by Johnny’s comments.
Thanks. He stated he would not have a problem with his daughters being a model (no mention of underwear) or actress. Is this disallowed in Judaism?
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Re: Model Mom Calls Her Religion a Cult
« Reply #117 on: March 04, 2012, 11:53:51 PM »
Thanks. He stated he would not have a problem with his daughters being a model (no mention of underwear) or actress. Is this disallowed in Judaism?
I would assume he's referring to someone modeling the way she does, that is definitely disallowed.

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Re: Model Mom Calls Her Religion a Cult
« Reply #118 on: March 05, 2012, 12:03:08 AM »
Thanks. He stated he would not have a problem with his daughters being a model (no mention of underwear) or actress. Is this disallowed in Judaism?
Mention was made of her modeling 'career' choice. While it is possible the Boteach wasn't aware of the extent of her activities, he is definitely aware that Halacha (Jewish Law) forbids a lady from revealing the skin above her elbows, above her knees and below her neckline for modesty reasons. Even if all those areas are covered, modeling would still not be in line with the Modesty levels that a women is supposed to have. Her body is not supposed to be sexualized and shown off to the world, rather is meant to be kept private for her husband. (which some may call constricting lack of freedom but in reality is a measure of respect toward them).

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Re: Model Mom Calls Her Religion a Cult
« Reply #119 on: March 05, 2012, 12:36:36 AM »
Mention was made of her modeling 'career' choice. While it is possible the Boteach wasn't aware of the extent of her activities, he is definitely aware that Halacha (Jewish Law) forbids a lady from revealing the skin above her elbows, above her knees and below her neckline for modesty reasons. Even if all those areas are covered, modeling would still not be in line with the Modesty levels that a women is supposed to have. Her body is not supposed to be sexualized and shown off to the world, rather is meant to be kept private for her husband. (which some may call constricting lack of freedom but in reality is a measure of respect toward them).

Objectifying women is a much greater disrespect, as presented beautifully (from a completely non-religious perspective) in Wendy Shalit's book A Return to Modesty, which I'd recommend to people but it's dense and isn't completely appropriate.