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Re: Model Mom Calls Her Religion a Cult
« Reply #80 on: March 04, 2012, 08:17:37 AM »
here her boyfriend says she just showing them there are other options, not making them eat non-kosher or 'showing them there's an outside world'. What a loser... Surprising she can't get a better boyfriend.
wow shmuley really went off the deep end. judaism doesnt care that shes modeling as long as shes a good mother? where does he get this crap from?

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Re: Model Mom Calls Her Religion a Cult
« Reply #81 on: March 04, 2012, 08:24:59 AM »
Shauli Grossman @ 3:35


He wrote some other "songs" as well:
http://www.vosizneias.com/24515/2008/12/19/brooklyn-ny-the-man-and-controversy-behind-the-yiddish-hit-satire-song-eech-vil-zine-a-rebbe-poking-fun-of-todays-hasidic-rebbes/




TO bad the show wasnt based on him.. It would have been really funny if they showed these on Dr. Pil

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Re: Model Mom Calls Her Religion a Cult
« Reply #82 on: March 04, 2012, 08:31:58 AM »
wow shmuley really went off the deep end. judaism doesnt care that shes modeling as long as shes a good mother? where does he get this crap from?

I'm no fan of Shmuley's but (for the most part) he is an intellectual individual with well developed ideas. I happen to agree with him here 100%. (I did not watch the whole thing, just the clips Dan posted.) while it must be dealt with delicately, if the mom agrees that the children should be raised in the religion they grew up knowing it is critical for their emotional stability and development to keep a relationship with their mother who loves them. Regarding whether she should have any custody over her children did he make the point that Judaism doesn't care about her religious standing.

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Re: Model Mom Calls Her Religion a Cult
« Reply #83 on: March 04, 2012, 08:33:07 AM »
I'm no fan of Shmuley's but (for the most part) he is an intellectual individual with well developed ideas. I happen to agree with him here 100%. (I did not watch the whole thing, just the clips Dan posted.) while it must be dealt with delicately, if the mom agrees that the children should be raised in the religion they grew up knowing it is critical for their emotional stability and development to keep a relationship with their mother who loves them. Regarding whether she should have any custody over her children did he make the point that Judaism doesn't care about her religious standing.
well developed ideas must be based on judaism

the british must be crazy to even consider him for the chief rabbinate
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Re: Model Mom Calls Her Religion a Cult
« Reply #84 on: March 04, 2012, 08:44:14 AM »
well developed ideas must be based on judaism

the british must be crazy even to consider him for the chief rabbinate

I agree that Shmuley's is too PR oriented and def. Isn't fit for the chief rabbi gig, but that doesn't mean he's always wrong. Take the onus on yourself where does Judaism say it's critical to take a child away from it's mother?

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Re: Model Mom Calls Her Religion a Cult
« Reply #85 on: March 04, 2012, 08:46:29 AM »
I agree that Shmuley's is too PR oriented and def. Isn't fit for the chief rabbi gig, but that doesn't mean he's always wrong. Take the onus on yourself where does Judaism say it's critical to take a child away from it's mother?
when doing so will cause the child to not be shomer torah umitzvos?

when you take a look at this pic, think of how his chassideshe father feels. then think how his Father feels

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Re: Model Mom Calls Her Religion a Cult
« Reply #86 on: March 04, 2012, 08:50:46 AM »
well developed ideas must be based on judaism
That explains why I never come up with any well developed ideas. I was raised Roman Catholic.
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Re: Model Mom Calls Her Religion a Cult
« Reply #87 on: March 04, 2012, 08:53:49 AM »
That explains why I never come up with any well developed ideas. I was raised Roman Catholic.
you missed the point. if hes claiming well developed ideas from a jewish perspective, it must be based on judaism. i thought that was obvious. after all hes the token "rabbi" on the program

but thanks for taking things out of context

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Re: Model Mom Calls Her Religion a Cult
« Reply #88 on: March 04, 2012, 08:54:40 AM »
That explains why I never come up with any well developed ideas. I was raised Roman Catholic.

:) Alot of it I feel has to do with our study habits.
How we learn and delve deep into each subject that we take on.

http://www.aish.com/jw/s/South_Koreans_Learning_Talmud.html
http://muqata.blogspot.com/2011/03/talmud-study-now-mandatory-in-south.html



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Re: Model Mom Calls Her Religion a Cult
« Reply #89 on: March 04, 2012, 09:01:10 AM »
you missed the point. if hes claiming well developed ideas from a jewish perspective, it must be based on judaism. i thought that was obvious. after all hes the token "rabbi" on the program

but thanks for taking things out of context
Are you aware that referring to someone as a “token” is viewed by many as derogatory and racist? What to make sure I have the context right.
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Re: Model Mom Calls Her Religion a Cult
« Reply #90 on: March 04, 2012, 09:02:33 AM »
please dont nitpick. do you understand my point?

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Re: Model Mom Calls Her Religion a Cult
« Reply #91 on: March 04, 2012, 09:10:05 AM »
please dont nitpick. do you understand my point?
About "ideas" yes since you expanded on it.

Pointing out a term I find not proper to use is not nitpicking.
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Re: Model Mom Calls Her Religion a Cult
« Reply #92 on: March 04, 2012, 09:13:04 AM »
fair enough.

as long as you understand that i want saying that non jews cannot have well developed ideas, were good

at a later time youll explain to me why token rabbi is offensive

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Re: Model Mom Calls Her Religion a Cult
« Reply #93 on: March 04, 2012, 09:20:37 AM »
:) Alot of it I feel has to do with our study habits.
How we learn and delve deep into each subject that we take on.
I agree with you. A parent does not need a religion to instill this into their children just common sense.
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Re: Model Mom Calls Her Religion a Cult
« Reply #94 on: March 04, 2012, 10:33:03 AM »
By the way, this Shauly claims in the clip that he got married at 17! Nice lie to make the show more attractive, when in fact he got engaged at 19 years old!

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Re: Model Mom Calls Her Religion a Cult
« Reply #95 on: March 04, 2012, 10:48:51 AM »
By the way, this Shauly claims in the clip that he got married at 17! Nice lie to make the show more attractive, when in fact he got engaged at 19 years old!
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Re: Model Mom Calls Her Religion a Cult
« Reply #96 on: March 04, 2012, 10:55:31 AM »
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Re: Model Mom Calls Her Religion a Cult
« Reply #97 on: March 04, 2012, 11:02:03 AM »
I'm smelling another Deborah Feldman
Shauly Grossman is out on the streets very long.
He has the same troubled background like all of these people. Having divorced parents, and a bunch of other troubled childhood issues.
All of his brothers made their way down the drain, although one of his younger brothers has seriously reversed, and has been a real baal teshuva.
Hopefully he'll be back soon as well.
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