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Breakfast:
Paying guests get breakfast for free. If you are staying on points you need to be gold or diamond to get free breakfast. (source)

Parking:
Complimentary (No longer, is now 60sh for self park - Drago)

Shuls Nearby:
Great Synagogue - Approx. 7 minute walk
Kotel around 15min walk thru the mall & arab Shuk (Only suggested when soldiers are present like friday night on the way home)
Hotel has a Shul in the basement
Shul across the street

Hechsher: Plain Rabbanut Yerushayim (not mehadrin)
hechsherim in isreal
whatever your rabbi says you can eat, someone else's rabbi says is treif

If anyone is planing on staying at Waldorf and not eating the free breakfast (Hechsher, Early flight, etc') please PM shimino1

If you get free drinks vouchers and don't use them, I'll buy it off you for 10 shek per voucher.
PM shimino1

If anyone is planing on staying at Waldorf and not eating the free breakfast please PM dragoddfer, and he may be able to pay for the breakfast.

« Last edited by Mimo on October 25, 2022, 01:41:54 AM »

Author Topic: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem  (Read 1159432 times)

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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #2520 on: May 31, 2016, 02:09:31 PM »
Love the haters. I was there as well. It was not comfortable because it was full of Heimish Yiden, but toi say that they turned over the place is simple HATE. I understand that you were not comfy seeing people like you... but most of the Heimish ppl there booked revenue unlike you who booked points. I agree it was a Heimish Matzev but to say they turned over the place is silly
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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #2521 on: May 31, 2016, 02:12:36 PM »


most of the Heimish ppl there booked revenue unlike you who booked points.
makes zero difference.


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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #2522 on: May 31, 2016, 02:53:15 PM »
makes zero difference.
It makes a difference for those who try to say that these people kill the market because they only book points AND they mess up the hotel.
You can say what you think when you think what you say.

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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #2523 on: May 31, 2016, 08:47:31 PM »
Roughly how much does Waldorf charge for a Shabbat meal for two?

Also I heard that they charge for Shabbat keys??

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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #2524 on: May 31, 2016, 08:51:43 PM »
Roughly how much does Waldorf charge for a Shabbat meal for two?

Also I heard that they charge for Shabbat keys??

They do NOT charge for Shabbat keys and meal are about 450 shekel pp, can't remember exactly.

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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #2525 on: May 31, 2016, 08:54:38 PM »
They do NOT charge for Shabbat keys and meal are about 450 shekel pp, can't remember exactly.
You forgot the per meal part.

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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #2526 on: May 31, 2016, 08:57:51 PM »
You forgot the per meal part.

Pp was per person, sorry ;)

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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #2527 on: May 31, 2016, 11:35:43 PM »
450 shekel
About 125.00 USD
Per Shabbos Meal

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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #2528 on: June 01, 2016, 08:35:47 AM »
AJK this is from DDMS comment "Hilton Manager"

   
Sorry dan for the late response, first the hotel looses money on a points stay especially if itís a gold member who gets the free breakfast. After housekeeping and other labor costs per room, it just doesnít pay. Also people who stay at that location on points tend to complain about service, demand compensation, and frustrate the staff. So it is not worth it for them on low occupancy days.

In terms of higher occupancy days, only if they are about 95% do they get the Adr, but with a lot of local negotiated accounts the Adr could be closer to 300$, so if they are forecasting a sellout, for example for succos, they are going to block points stays to get the higher adr of $550+.

Lastly most days they donít know until one or two days before weather they are going to hit the 95% occupancy. Sure some days they do and some days they donít, but they have the past statistics, and after analyzing them, they made the decision that is going to bring the most revenue into the hotel. Again Dan, not the hotel industry itís not just about selling out, itís about selling out at the highest rate.
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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #2529 on: June 01, 2016, 08:46:49 AM »
Is this Manager's IP from Israel?

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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #2530 on: June 01, 2016, 08:48:21 AM »
Is this Manager's IP from Israel?
He didn't call himself Waldorf manager.
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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #2531 on: June 01, 2016, 08:48:39 AM »
AJK this is from DDMS comment "Hilton Manager"

   
Sorry dan for the late response, first the hotel looses money on a points stay especially if itís a gold member who gets the free breakfast. After housekeeping and other labor costs per room, it just doesnít pay. Also people who stay at that location on points tend to complain about service, demand compensation, and frustrate the staff. So it is not worth it for them on low occupancy days.

In terms of higher occupancy days, only if they are about 95% do they get the Adr, but with a lot of local negotiated accounts the Adr could be closer to 300$, so if they are forecasting a sellout, for example for succos, they are going to block points stays to get the higher adr of $550+.

Lastly most days they donít know until one or two days before weather they are going to hit the 95% occupancy. Sure some days they do and some days they donít, but they have the past statistics, and after analyzing them, they made the decision that is going to bring the most revenue into the hotel. Again Dan, not the hotel industry itís not just about selling out, itís about selling out at the highest rate.
well then they should not be a part of the Hilton brand. As a Hilton member you should expect to be able to get a standard room whenever it is available. It is not our problem if you are losing money. Don't sign a contract with Hilton if you are not capable of keeping your end of the deal. The only reason why most people are staying at your hotel is because you are a Waldorf which is a brand people trust and are loyal to.  If you want all your customers to pay full rate then why should they pick your hotel over say the David citadel when the price is the same.

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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #2532 on: June 01, 2016, 09:11:49 AM »


  If you want all your customers to pay full rate then why should they pick your hotel over say the David citadel when the price is the same.
Because the David Citadel is inferior to the Waldorf.

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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #2533 on: June 01, 2016, 09:13:11 AM »
AJK this is from DDMS comment "Hilton Manager"


Sorry dan for the late response, first the hotel looses money on a points stay especially if itís a gold member who gets the free breakfast. After housekeeping and other labor costs per room, it just doesnít pay. Also people who stay at that location on points tend to complain about service, demand compensation, and frustrate the staff. So it is not worth it for them on low occupancy days.

In terms of higher occupancy days, only if they are about 95% do they get the Adr, but with a lot of local negotiated accounts the Adr could be closer to 300$, so if they are forecasting a sellout, for example for succos, they are going to block points stays to get the higher adr of $550+.

Lastly most days they donít know until one or two days before weather they are going to hit the 95% occupancy. Sure some days they do and some days they donít, but they have the past statistics, and after analyzing them, they made the decision that is going to bring the most revenue into the hotel. Again Dan, not the hotel industry itís not just about selling out, itís about selling out at the highest rate.
Too many mistakes for that to be an "official" response.
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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #2534 on: June 01, 2016, 09:15:31 AM »
To"o" many mistakes for that to be an "official" response.

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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #2535 on: June 01, 2016, 09:16:19 AM »
To many mistakes for that to be an "official" response.
Was thinking the same. (Not that I can do better...)

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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #2536 on: June 01, 2016, 09:16:41 AM »
Too many mistakes for that to be an "official" response.
FTFY :)

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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #2537 on: June 01, 2016, 09:19:36 AM »
Too many mistakes for that to be an "official" response.

Therefore his ip may shed some light.

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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #2538 on: June 01, 2016, 09:27:01 AM »
Too many mistakes for that to be an "official" response.

He didn't claim to be.
"I manage a Hilton out it the Midwest and I will tell you simply what is going on."

Therefore his ip may shed some light.
It's blocked.
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #2539 on: June 01, 2016, 09:39:24 AM »
It's blocked.

Time to ban those from commenting.