Author Topic: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem (Read 1490407 times)

ilherman · « **Reply #2520 on:** May 31, 2016, 02:09:31 PM »

Love the haters. I was there as well. It was not comfortable because it was full of Heimish Yiden, but toi say that they turned over the place is simple HATE. I understand that you were not comfy seeing people like you... but most of the Heimish ppl there booked revenue unlike you who booked points. I agree it was a Heimish Matzev but to say they turned over the place is silly

Emkay · « **Reply #2521 on:** May 31, 2016, 02:12:36 PM »

Quote from: ilherman on May 31, 2016, 02:09:31 PM

most of the Heimish ppl there booked revenue unlike you who booked points.

makes zero difference.

ilherman · « **Reply #2522 on:** May 31, 2016, 02:53:15 PM »

Quote from: Emkay on May 31, 2016, 02:12:36 PM

makes zero difference.

It makes a difference for those who try to say that these people kill the market because they only book points AND they mess up the hotel.

ar · « **Reply #2523 on:** May 31, 2016, 08:47:31 PM »

Roughly how much does Waldorf charge for a Shabbat meal for two?

Also I heard that they charge for Shabbat keys??

Denverite · « **Reply #2524 on:** May 31, 2016, 08:51:43 PM »

Quote from: ar on May 31, 2016, 08:47:31 PM

Roughly how much does Waldorf charge for a Shabbat meal for two?

Also I heard that they charge for Shabbat keys??

They do NOT charge for Shabbat keys and meal are about 450 shekel pp, can't remember exactly.

sammy n · « **Reply #2525 on:** May 31, 2016, 08:54:38 PM »

Quote from: Denverite on May 31, 2016, 08:51:43 PM

They do NOT charge for Shabbat keys and meal are about 450 shekel pp, can't remember exactly.

You forgot the per meal part.

Denverite · « **Reply #2526 on:** May 31, 2016, 08:57:51 PM »

Quote from: sammy n on May 31, 2016, 08:54:38 PM

You forgot the per meal part.

Pp was per person, sorry

Matovu · « **Reply #2527 on:** May 31, 2016, 11:35:43 PM »

450 shekel
About 125.00 USD
Per Shabbos Meal

jj1000 · « **Reply #2528 on:** June 01, 2016, 08:35:47 AM »

AJK this is from DDMS comment "Hilton Manager"

Sorry dan for the late response, first the hotel looses money on a points stay especially if it’s a gold member who gets the free breakfast. After housekeeping and other labor costs per room, it just doesn’t pay. Also people who stay at that location on points tend to complain about service, demand compensation, and frustrate the staff. So it is not worth it for them on low occupancy days.

In terms of higher occupancy days, only if they are about 95% do they get the Adr, but with a lot of local negotiated accounts the Adr could be closer to 300$, so if they are forecasting a sellout, for example for succos, they are going to block points stays to get the higher adr of $550+.

Lastly most days they don’t know until one or two days before weather they are going to hit the 95% occupancy. Sure some days they do and some days they don’t, but they have the past statistics, and after analyzing them, they made the decision that is going to bring the most revenue into the hotel. Again Dan, not the hotel industry it’s not just about selling out, it’s about selling out at the highest rate.

mgarfin · « **Reply #2529 on:** June 01, 2016, 08:46:49 AM »

Is this Manager's IP from Israel?

coralsnake · « **Reply #2530 on:** June 01, 2016, 08:48:21 AM »

Quote from: mgarfin on June 01, 2016, 08:46:49 AM

Is this Manager's IP from Israel?

He didn't call himself Waldorf manager.

mochjas · « **Reply #2531 on:** June 01, 2016, 08:48:39 AM »

Quote from: jj1000 on June 01, 2016, 08:35:47 AM

AJK this is from DDMS comment "Hilton Manager"

Sorry dan for the late response, first the hotel looses money on a points stay especially if it’s a gold member who gets the free breakfast. After housekeeping and other labor costs per room, it just doesn’t pay. Also people who stay at that location on points tend to complain about service, demand compensation, and frustrate the staff. So it is not worth it for them on low occupancy days.

In terms of higher occupancy days, only if they are about 95% do they get the Adr, but with a lot of local negotiated accounts the Adr could be closer to 300$, so if they are forecasting a sellout, for example for succos, they are going to block points stays to get the higher adr of $550+.

Lastly most days they don’t know until one or two days before weather they are going to hit the 95% occupancy. Sure some days they do and some days they don’t, but they have the past statistics, and after analyzing them, they made the decision that is going to bring the most revenue into the hotel. Again Dan, not the hotel industry it’s not just about selling out, it’s about selling out at the highest rate.

well then they should not be a part of the Hilton brand. As a Hilton member you should expect to be able to get a standard room whenever it is available. It is not our problem if you are losing money. Don't sign a contract with Hilton if you are not capable of keeping your end of the deal. The only reason why most people are staying at your hotel is because you are a Waldorf which is a brand people trust and are loyal to. If you want all your customers to pay full rate then why should they pick your hotel over say the David citadel when the price is the same.

Emkay · « **Reply #2532 on:** June 01, 2016, 09:11:49 AM »

Quote from: mochjas on June 01, 2016, 08:48:39 AM

If you want all your customers to pay full rate then why should they pick your hotel over say the David citadel when the price is the same.

Because the David Citadel is inferior to the Waldorf.

Emkay · « **Reply #2533 on:** June 01, 2016, 09:13:11 AM »

Quote from: jj1000 on June 01, 2016, 08:35:47 AM

AJK this is from DDMS comment "Hilton Manager"

Sorry dan for the late response, first the hotel looses money on a points stay especially if it’s a gold member who gets the free breakfast. After housekeeping and other labor costs per room, it just doesn’t pay. Also people who stay at that location on points tend to complain about service, demand compensation, and frustrate the staff. So it is not worth it for them on low occupancy days.

In terms of higher occupancy days, only if they are about 95% do they get the Adr, but with a lot of local negotiated accounts the Adr could be closer to 300$, so if they are forecasting a sellout, for example for succos, they are going to block points stays to get the higher adr of $550+.

Lastly most days they don’t know until one or two days before weather they are going to hit the 95% occupancy. Sure some days they do and some days they don’t, but they have the past statistics, and after analyzing them, they made the decision that is going to bring the most revenue into the hotel. Again Dan, not the hotel industry it’s not just about selling out, it’s about selling out at the highest rate.

Too many mistakes for that to be an "official" response.