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Breakfast:
Paying guests get breakfast for free. If you are staying on points you need to be gold or diamond to get free breakfast. (source)

Parking:
Complimentary (No longer, is now 60sh for self park - Drago)

Shuls Nearby:
Great Synagogue - Approx. 7 minute walk
Kotel around 15min walk thru the mall & arab Shuk (Only suggested when soldiers are present like friday night on the way home)
Hotel has a Shul in the basement

Hechsher: Plain Rabbanut Yerushayim (not mehadrin)
hechsherim in isreal
whatever your rabbi says you can eat, someone else's rabbi says is treif

If anyone is planing on staying at Waldorf and not eating the free breakfast (Hechsher, Early flight, etc') please PM shimino1

If you get free drinks vouchers and don't use them, I'll buy it off you for 10 shek per voucher.
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Author Topic: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem  (Read 676104 times)

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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #3075 on: January 04, 2017, 11:58:12 PM »
It's not so much the points bookings which bother them. They very well know that during high occupancy they get reimbursed nicely. It's the Hilton overall contract which bothers them + some other factors.
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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #3076 on: January 05, 2017, 02:05:52 PM »
But do the hotels really "do better" after going solo?  Is the David Citadel thriving?  Wonder how Hilton Eilat is/will be doing?

Under normal market conditions, it would probably be a detrimental move.  However, the Israeli market is pretty small and there's minimal tourism to the neighboring countries where possible.  Plus all those organizations and companies that provide free vacations to their workers (nearly everyone in defense, major companies, teachers, etc.) - they'll keep making the bookings, whether it's called Waldorf Astoria or Jerusalem's Best Inn.

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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #3077 on: January 06, 2017, 04:07:41 PM »
What is the latest info regarding using a free night from someone else here?

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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #3078 on: January 06, 2017, 05:15:51 PM »
But do the hotels really "do better" after going solo?  Is the David Citadel thriving?  Wonder how Hilton Eilat is/will be doing?

Under normal market conditions, it would probably be a detrimental move.  However, the Israeli market is pretty small and there's minimal tourism to the neighboring countries where possible.  Plus all those organizations and companies that provide free vacations to their workers (nearly everyone in defense, major companies, teachers, etc.) - they'll keep making the bookings, whether it's called Waldorf Astoria or Jerusalem's Best Inn.

I don't know.  It seems like wealthy Hareidi(ish) Americans are their target market (it was 90% that when I was there).  The question is will these people choose this hotel if they aren't at least getting points?  I'm planning to do my son's Bar Mitzvah party there and wouldn't spend that kind of money at a hotel in Israel except that I know I'll at least be getting a ton of points from the Shabbos catering expenses...although I am a DDFer and I guess a normal person probably wouldn't care...

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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #3079 on: January 07, 2017, 07:15:40 PM »
I don't know.  It seems like wealthy Hareidi(ish) Americans are their target market (it was 90% that when I was there).  The question is will these people choose this hotel if they aren't at least getting points?  I'm planning to do my son's Bar Mitzvah party there and wouldn't spend that kind of money at a hotel in Israel except that I know I'll at least be getting a ton of points from the Shabbos catering expenses...although I am a DDFer and I guess a normal person probably wouldn't care...

i dont understand this so much. aren't you pricing in the points earned into the cost of the overall expense.

to simplify. if waldorf costs $2000 for the party and doing it in a shul costs $1000 you better be getting $1000 worth of points(subjective to how you value them of course) from the waldorf for doing it there.

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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #3080 on: January 08, 2017, 12:19:06 AM »
i dont understand this so much. aren't you pricing in the points earned into the cost of the overall expense.

to simplify. if waldorf costs $2000 for the party and doing it in a shul costs $1000 you better be getting $1000 worth of points(subjective to how you value them of course) from the waldorf for doing it there.

Because of a bunch of factors, it's gonna be the same cost in Denver so I'd much rather go to Israel and have the simcha there.  The hotels prices seem to be very similar among high end Israeli hotels for Shabbos meals, so I was more thinking that people would be more likely to choose the WA instead of other hotels.  As far just a place to stay, if you take away points I'd much rather stay somewhere else that had an awesome pool for kids and great views.

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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #3081 on: January 08, 2017, 01:00:02 AM »
Because of a bunch of factors, it's gonna be the same cost in Denver so I'd much rather go to Israel and have the simcha there.  The hotels prices seem to be very similar among high end Israeli hotels for Shabbos meals, so I was more thinking that people would be more likely to choose the WA instead of other hotels.  As far just a place to stay, if you take away points I'd much rather stay somewhere else that had an awesome pool for kids and great views.
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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #3082 on: January 08, 2017, 02:32:22 AM »
Hashgacha is the big draw.
Apparently not.

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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #3083 on: January 08, 2017, 05:14:05 AM »
Hashgacha is the big draw.
What hashgacha? :(

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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #3084 on: January 08, 2017, 10:57:37 AM »
What hashgacha? :(
People do perceive it as better but I wonder if that would change if it wasn't these well known owners.

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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #3085 on: January 08, 2017, 11:52:04 AM »
Was there last night at the dairy restaurant, wasn't impressed at all!

Some dishes weren't  edible

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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #3086 on: January 08, 2017, 04:13:05 PM »
People do perceive it as better but I wonder if that would change if it wasn't these well known owners.
It most definitely will change! (Unless they actually et a hechsher)...
Most ppl I spoke to only eat there because they or someone they know knows the reichmans personally
(Otherwise- you are only trusting rabanut after all is said and done)

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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #3087 on: January 08, 2017, 04:22:04 PM »


I wonder if that would change if it wasn't these well known owners.

Hopefully.

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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #3088 on: January 08, 2017, 07:50:10 PM »
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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #3089 on: January 11, 2017, 01:32:46 AM »
Meaning?
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