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Breakfast:
Paying guests get breakfast for free. If you are staying on points you need to be gold or diamond to get free breakfast. (source)

Parking:
Complimentary (No longer, is now 60sh for self park - Drago)

Shuls Nearby:
Great Synagogue - Approx. 7 minute walk
Kotel around 15min walk thru the mall & arab Shuk (Only suggested when soldiers are present like friday night on the way home)
Hotel has a Shul in the basement

Hechsher: Plain Rabbanut Yerushayim (not mehadrin)
hechsherim in isreal
whatever your rabbi says you can eat, someone else's rabbi says is treif

If anyone is planing on staying at Waldorf and not eating the free breakfast (Hechsher, Early flight, etc') please PM shimino1

If you get free drinks vouchers and don't use them, I'll buy it off you for 10 shek per voucher.
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Author Topic: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem  (Read 641610 times)

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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #4080 on: June 25, 2018, 01:48:56 PM »
Here we go again......

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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #4081 on: June 25, 2018, 01:52:47 PM »
The email is from the same firm which sent out the last one from the Reichman family. Not surprised there's a response.
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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #4082 on: June 25, 2018, 01:58:49 PM »
Not sure why they felt it necessary to release the original statement in that email. It seemed like some sort of backstabbing/sabotage to me.

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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #4083 on: June 25, 2018, 02:17:59 PM »
No just didn't want people to go thinking that since they owned it they knew what was going on and that everything is kosher . So they want people to know that they have zero to do with hotel and what goes on now so people shouldn't think it's all the same

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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #4084 on: June 25, 2018, 02:26:12 PM »
Well they could have released that statement years ago, too, in that case.

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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #4085 on: June 25, 2018, 02:27:58 PM »
Well they could have released that statement years ago, too, in that case.
Huh?
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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #4086 on: June 25, 2018, 02:29:01 PM »
No just didn't want people to go thinking that since they owned it they knew what was going on and that everything is kosher . So they want people to know that they have zero to do with hotel and what goes on now so people shouldn't think it's all the same
Huh?

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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #4087 on: June 25, 2018, 04:07:07 PM »
5.
#Fake News!!

Based on personal experience, there is not a Mashgiach present at all times. (Which leaves open Major Bishul Akum issues, aside from many others as well)

Even though I spoke with him on the phone a couple minutes prior, and he promised me there is always a Mashgiach present. But when I showed up the front desk as well as the kitchen staff confirmed with me that there was no Mashgiach present at the time! In which case it begs the question who are you relying on?!? There is no Hashgacha, and he promised me someone is there when there wasnt!

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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #4088 on: June 25, 2018, 04:08:40 PM »
Which leaves open Major Bishul Akum issues
Why can't a fire be left on that was lit by a Jew?
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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #4089 on: June 25, 2018, 04:11:34 PM »
#Fake News!!

Based on personal experience, there is not a Mashgiach present at all times. (Which leaves open Major Bishul Akum issues, aside from many others as well)

Even though I spoke with him on the phone a couple minutes prior, and he promised me there is always a Mashgiach present. But when I showed up the front desk as well as the kitchen staff confirmed with me that there was no Mashgiach present at the time! In which case it begs the question who are you relying on?!? There is no Hashgacha, and he promised me someone is there when there wasnt!
It could be this is the new standard
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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #4090 on: June 25, 2018, 04:12:42 PM »
Why can't a fire be left on that was lit by a Jew?
It can, but who's to say it was?!?
 
My point is simply, who are you relying on?!? there is no Hashgacha, and he promised me something which proved not be the truth.

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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #4091 on: June 25, 2018, 04:13:15 PM »
It could be this is the new standard
Well he promised me that was the case then as well.

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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #4092 on: June 25, 2018, 04:16:04 PM »
It can, but who's to say it was?!?
 
My point is simply, who are you relying on?!? there is no Hashgacha, and he promised me something which proved not be the truth.
The on duty mashgiach I spoke to said that is what they do.

I'll say it again ... When you get to heaven after  120...and they ask you if you ate kosher, you'll have no problem saying you're not sure but you def paid for kosher.
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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #4093 on: June 25, 2018, 04:26:39 PM »
Why can't a fire be left on that was lit by a Jew?
I have been told by numerous kashrus pros (Maybe @moko  can give some insight) that this is not reliable as a practical matter for a few reasons. In a commercial setting flames often go out or are turned off by habit and you can almost be guaranteed that the regular staff will turn it back on if needed. Also it is highly unrealistic that every single flame in the kitchen is left on. What would happen when they need a burner which was not left on?

That is only the beginning of the issues. You can have issues of them running out of washed vegetables or g'maasered produce and more.

Leaving such a kitchen with no mashgiach is does NOT sound like keeping to mehdarin standards.
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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #4094 on: June 25, 2018, 04:28:45 PM »
The on duty mashgiach I spoke to said that is what they do.
I'll say it again ... When you get to heaven after  120...and they ask you if you ate kosher, you'll have no problem saying you're not sure but you def paid for kosher.
For the free breakfast.....
Jews will do anything for a free meal.
(out of context disclaimer)
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