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Breakfast:
Paying guests get breakfast for free. If you are staying on points you need to be gold or diamond to get free breakfast. (source)

Parking:
Complimentary (No longer, is now 60sh for self park - Drago)

Shuls Nearby:
Great Synagogue - Approx. 7 minute walk
Kotel around 15min walk thru the mall & arab Shuk (Only suggested when soldiers are present like friday night on the way home)
Hotel has a Shul in the basement
Shul across the street

Hechsher: Plain Rabbanut Yerushayim (not mehadrin)
hechsherim in isreal
whatever your rabbi says you can eat, someone else's rabbi says is treif

If anyone is planing on staying at Waldorf and not eating the free breakfast (Hechsher, Early flight, etc') please PM shimino1

If you get free drinks vouchers and don't use them, I'll buy it off you for 10 shek per voucher.
PM shimino1

If anyone is planing on staying at Waldorf and not eating the free breakfast please PM dragoddfer, and he may be able to pay for the breakfast.

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Author Topic: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem  (Read 1302950 times)

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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #3840 on: January 15, 2018, 01:30:08 PM »
Which hotels in Paris is he talking about. No waj style hotel is €1,000 a night. Cmiiw
PH level?
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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #3841 on: January 15, 2018, 01:39:08 PM »
PH level?
The WAJ is not the PHP, they don't even have a pool! And the php is not 1000 euro on a normal day.

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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #3842 on: January 15, 2018, 01:39:53 PM »
The WAJ is not the PHP, they don't even have a pool! And the php is not 1000 euro on a normal day.
Clearly not, but perhaps he wants to raise it to that level?
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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #3843 on: January 15, 2018, 01:44:00 PM »
Clearly not, but perhaps he wants to raise it to that level?
Gotchya. But he said "Only in Israel do people not want to pay. It's not normal." How does he know people won't pay that much for a true luxurious hotel in Israel.

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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #3844 on: January 15, 2018, 01:46:19 PM »
Clearly not, but perhaps he wants to raise it to that level?
Will be pretty hard, unless he imports the staff from outside Israel.

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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #3845 on: January 15, 2018, 01:48:33 PM »
And yet he's adding a pool, spa, and a 5 star restaurant.
I think it's a good bet that he intends to elevate the caliber of the hotel as well as the rates it can command.
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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #3846 on: January 15, 2018, 01:49:07 PM »
Will be pretty hard, unless he imports the staff from outside Israel.
Not hard to do.
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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #3847 on: January 15, 2018, 01:51:03 PM »
Not hard to do.
True but neither the WAJ nor the Ritz have done it yet.

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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #3848 on: January 15, 2018, 02:02:59 PM »
True but neither the WAJ nor the Ritz have done it yet.
They haven't had ownership that desired that level.
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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #3849 on: January 15, 2018, 03:31:37 PM »
And yet he's adding a pool, spa, and a 5 star restaurant.
I think it's a good bet that he intends to elevate the caliber of the hotel as well as the rates it can command.
First the deal has to officially close

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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #3850 on: January 15, 2018, 06:01:11 PM »
Service at the hotel is not too far from 5 star. No need to bring in staff from outside Israel.
You can say what you think when you think what you say.

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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #3851 on: January 15, 2018, 06:03:26 PM »
Service at the hotel is not too far from 5 star. No need to bring in staff from outside Israel.
Erm. Which 5 star hotels have you stayed in?
Service isn't close to international PH standards and snobs would say that international PH standards are not 5 stars.
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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #3852 on: January 15, 2018, 09:09:05 PM »
Service at the hotel is not too far from 5 star. No need to bring in staff from outside Israel.
Before the Ritz took Guy as the manager they had a mostly international staff and the best service in Israel that I've ever experienced.
I would say it was 5 star level although I don't have a objective scale so people may argue.
The WAJ was never on that level and certainly is not now.
Not to say that the service is bad it's excellent but I'm trying to nitpick and differentiate one top level service experience from the other.

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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #3853 on: January 16, 2018, 09:38:47 AM »
When the WAJ opened the staff was trained by some school and were much more makpid on service. As time went on, they deteriorated to standard Israeli (non) service.

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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #3854 on: January 16, 2018, 03:08:34 PM »
When award availability was open for sukkos I didn't have enough points in my account and waited for a transfer to post
While calling a rep told me I could book cash + points and when the transfer posts they will be able to switch it to a points reservation, But in fact this is not correct and no one at Hilton is ready to convert the reservation for me.
If a cancel my reservation what are the chances of the room going back into inventory and booking it with points?
anything else I could do to get the reservation switched over?

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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #3855 on: January 16, 2018, 03:46:31 PM »
If a cancel my reservation what are the chances of the room going back into inventory and booking it with points?
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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #3856 on: January 16, 2018, 04:13:18 PM »
No chance sukkos is still blocked.off for regular reservation

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« Reply #3857 on: January 16, 2018, 04:18:32 PM »
No chance sukkos is still blocked.off for regular reservation
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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #3858 on: January 16, 2018, 06:43:57 PM »
Now it's blocked was open for a few days ny rosh hashana time before they closed it off for reg people check now it'll say no rooms available on app and site

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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #3859 on: January 17, 2018, 05:58:11 AM »
They haven't had ownership that desired that level.
Sometimes the customer service attitude trickles down from the top. A hotelier understands the long term value of pampering guests, while a landlord is interested in collecting rents and not in giving the tenants more than required under the terms of the negotiated lease, and a real estate developer wants to sell apartments. While the new owner has been all of these, this is not his first hotel, and he apparently had success with his others. It’s just a different business model.