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Breakfast:
Paying guests get breakfast for free. If you are staying on points you need to be gold or diamond to get free breakfast. (source)

Parking:
Complimentary (No longer, is now 60sh for self park - Drago)

Shuls Nearby:
Great Synagogue - Approx. 7 minute walk
Kotel around 15min walk thru the mall & arab Shuk (Only suggested when soldiers are present like friday night on the way home)
Hotel has a Shul in the basement
Shul across the street

Hechsher: Plain Rabbanut Yerushayim (not mehadrin)
hechsherim in isreal
whatever your rabbi says you can eat, someone else's rabbi says is treif

If anyone is planing on staying at Waldorf and not eating the free breakfast (Hechsher, Early flight, etc') please PM shimino1

If you get free drinks vouchers and don't use them, I'll buy it off you for 10 shek per voucher.
PM shimino1

If anyone is planing on staying at Waldorf and not eating the free breakfast please PM dragoddfer, and he may be able to pay for the breakfast.

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Author Topic: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem  (Read 1151448 times)

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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #4780 on: July 31, 2019, 12:39:53 PM »
anybody had luck getting a one bedroom suite with diamond status? if not what were you able to get. do they treat you better over as a diamond?
i booked last year with gold and got a nice upgrade (not a suite).

been a while since they really did those upgrades. half the place is diamond

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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #4781 on: July 31, 2019, 01:40:01 PM »
been a while since they really did those upgrades. half the place is diamond

but still if available they should try to do so? i am talking low season.

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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #4782 on: July 31, 2019, 02:45:39 PM »
I think it's more like relying on R Moshe that they can be trusted than actually personally choosing to trust them because they seem trustworthy.
Its pretty certain in today's day in age that the the milk is cow's milk. Anybody who tells you otherwise is a fool. With lab testing and other means (aside from the fact that cholov tamei is def not readily available and more expensive) the fallout for a company who'd be caught would be disastrous.

Now this might not be enough to be matir but definitely worth keeping in mind.

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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #4783 on: July 31, 2019, 03:35:35 PM »
anybody had luck getting a one bedroom suite with diamond status? if not what room type you get?

 do they treat you better as a diamond?

i booked last year with gold and got a nice upgrade (not a suite).
Usually give upgrades upto grand deluxe

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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #4784 on: July 31, 2019, 03:58:36 PM »
Maybe @aygart can weigh in?

It is at least 15 years since I really went over them well, but the way I understood them was that they are not the same opinion. I had a bunch of nafka minas between them. I would need to look back in my notes.
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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #4785 on: July 31, 2019, 04:15:31 PM »
It is at least 15 years since I really went over them well, but the way I understood them was that they are not the same opinion. I had a bunch of nafka minas between them. I would need to look back in my notes.

https://www.toraland.org.il/מאמרים/כשרות-המזון/כשרות-כללי/כשרותם-של-חלב-ואבקת-חלב-עכום/
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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #4786 on: July 31, 2019, 04:17:04 PM »
Its pretty certain in today's day in age that the the milk is cow's milk. Anybody who tells you otherwise is a fool. With lab testing and other means (aside from the fact that cholov tamei is def not readily available and more expensive) the fallout for a company who'd be caught would be disastrous.

Now this might not be enough to be matir but definitely worth keeping in mind.


I heard from someone who heard directly from R' Pinchas Scheinberg that on top of R' Moshes reasoning, Kol Shekein nowadays when this svara applies.

ETA: assuming this was still many years ago so take the word nowadays with a grain of salt...

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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #4787 on: July 31, 2019, 06:56:30 PM »
Its pretty certain in today's day in age that the the milk is cow's milk. Anybody who tells you otherwise is a fool. With lab testing and other means (aside from the fact that cholov tamei is def not readily available and more expensive) the fallout for a company who'd be caught would be disastrous.

Now this might not be enough to be matir but definitely worth keeping in mind.
I was responding to someone that was saying it's ironic that people here are choosing to trust this government agency

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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #4788 on: July 31, 2019, 10:48:38 PM »
Interesting how this thread became a open Halacha panel

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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #4789 on: July 31, 2019, 10:51:21 PM »
Interesting how this thread became a open Halacha panel

Stick around any thread long enough it will happen.

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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #4790 on: July 31, 2019, 10:59:42 PM »
Stick around any thread long enough it will happen.
Why can’t we stay focused...?

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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #4791 on: August 01, 2019, 01:12:11 AM »
Why can’t we stay focused...?
We are focused...

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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #4792 on: August 01, 2019, 01:16:13 AM »
Interesting how this thread became a open Halacha panel
See @aygart's signature
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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #4793 on: August 01, 2019, 08:00:45 AM »
Stick around any thread long enough it will happen.
i think it’s time for a Halacha mod to transfer all Halacha discussions to the proper thread

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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #4794 on: August 01, 2019, 08:24:29 AM »
I think DDF is predominantly a Beis Medrash. Once in while we have brief conversations about צורך השעה.
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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #4795 on: August 01, 2019, 09:03:13 AM »


I think DDF is predominantly a yeshiva coffee room. Once in while we have brief conversations about צורך השעה.

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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #4796 on: August 01, 2019, 09:18:11 AM »
came to see updates regarding WAJ, stayed for the pilpul....
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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #4797 on: August 01, 2019, 09:33:07 AM »
i think it’s time for a Halacha mod to transfer all Halacha discussions to the proper thread
That would leave this thread with what, 4 posts in it?
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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #4798 on: August 01, 2019, 09:48:36 AM »

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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« Reply #4799 on: August 01, 2019, 11:58:25 AM »
That would leave this thread with what, 4 posts in it?
See what a chashuve Mashgiach WAJ has; he generated 320 pages of Halachic discussion. If he would allow another hashgacha in the kitchen, it would be all of 4 posts.  :P