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Re: Health Care Reform In The Supreme Court
« Reply #45 on: April 03, 2012, 11:10:05 AM »
He is doing what he should be doing.
Campaigning?
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Re: Health Care Reform In The Supreme Court
« Reply #46 on: April 03, 2012, 02:49:51 PM »
Campaigning?
Trying to save something he believes in.
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Re: Health Care Reform In The Supreme Court
« Reply #47 on: April 03, 2012, 02:54:48 PM »
Trying to save something he believes in.
His statements sent a chill up my spine.  This guy has no concept of limited government powers. 

If the Supreme Court overturns obamacare, Obama will try to implement it anyway. 

You heard it here first.
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Re: Health Care Reform In The Supreme Court
« Reply #48 on: April 03, 2012, 02:58:05 PM »
His statements sent a chill up my spine.  This guy has no concept of limited government powers. 

If the Supreme Court overturns obamacare, Obama will try to implement it anyway. 

You heard it here first.
He will try and find a way so it won’t be struck down. 
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Re: Health Care Reform In The Supreme Court
« Reply #49 on: April 03, 2012, 05:16:53 PM »
His statements sent a chill up my spine.  This guy has no concept of limited government powers. 

If the Supreme Court overturns obamacare, Obama will try to implement it anyway. 

You heard it here first.

How so?
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Re: Health Care Reform In The Supreme Court
« Reply #50 on: April 03, 2012, 06:33:28 PM »
If you don't care why would you comment?
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Re: Health Care Reform In The Supreme Court
« Reply #51 on: April 04, 2012, 01:20:42 AM »
His statements sent a chill up my spine.  This guy has no concept of limited government powers. 
At the meeting, Obama said the Supreme Court "is the final say on our Constitution and our laws, and all of us have to respect it. ... I have enormous confidence that in looking at this law, not only is it constitutional, but that the Court is going to exercise its jurisprudence carefully because of the profound power that our Supreme Court has."

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Re: Health Care Reform In The Supreme Court
« Reply #52 on: April 04, 2012, 10:51:21 AM »
I'm not sure yet.

So what do you mean?

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Re: Health Care Reform In The Supreme Court
« Reply #53 on: April 04, 2012, 11:30:01 AM »
At the meeting, Obama said the Supreme Court "is the final say on our Constitution and our laws, and all of us have to respect it. ... I have enormous confidence that in looking at this law, not only is it constitutional, but that the Court is going to exercise its jurisprudence carefully because of the profound power that our Supreme Court has."
Didn't see that.  That makes it a little better.
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Re: Health Care Reform In The Supreme Court
« Reply #54 on: April 04, 2012, 11:35:36 AM »
Didn't see that.  That makes it a little better.
Remember he is a politician. It reminds of the old joke. How can you tell when a politician is lying? He lips are moving.
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Re: Health Care Reform In The Supreme Court
« Reply #56 on: June 19, 2012, 10:12:41 PM »
His statements sent a chill up my spine.  This guy has no concept of limited government powers. 

If the Supreme Court overturns obamacare, Obama will try to implement it anyway.

You heard it here first.
bump

He did it with immigration; he will do with healthcare too. Watch
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Re: Health Care Reform In The Supreme Court
« Reply #57 on: June 28, 2012, 11:14:07 AM »
Wow!! So the individual mandate was upheld... as a tax!

So basically, they agree that the government can't tell you that you must get healthcare .... but, they can say that if you don't- you will have to pay a $2,000 a year special tax.
So if you don't get insurance, they can't press any criminal charges, but they can tax you because they can tax whatever they want.
It's similar to smoking. They can't tell you not to smoke (and indeed it's not illegal to smoke). But they can say that if you do - you must pay a tax.

What's interesting is that when Obama marketed the law - he insisted that it's NOT a tax!!!!
And it turns out that the only way it's constitutional is as a tax!!

The one good thing that comes from all this is that now the republicans have great talking points for the coming election.....

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Re: Health Care Reform In The Supreme Court
« Reply #58 on: June 28, 2012, 11:23:26 AM »
Wow! What a surprise!
Thank you Justice Roberts!
And thank you Mr. Bush for appointing him to the court....
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Re: Health Care Reform In The Supreme Court
« Reply #59 on: June 28, 2012, 11:35:07 AM »
Interestingly enough, I was talking to a right-wing constitutional expert a few months ago, and he told me that it's most likely that Roberts would switch sides, based on his jurisprudential history. He said there's almost no chance of Kennedy voting with the left on this one.

He was right! And he's probably fuming now as well.