Author Topic: A Rally in Honor... Mohamed Merah Yimach Shemo  (Read 16064 times)

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Re: A Rally in Honor... Mohamed Merah Yimach Shemo
« Reply #135 on: March 29, 2012, 01:11:18 PM »
Right now, the Muslims are the perpetrators, so why aren't we responding accordingly?
Because we need to be PC at all costs.
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Re: A Rally in Honor... Mohamed Merah Yimach Shemo
« Reply #136 on: March 29, 2012, 01:14:28 PM »
I can't tell if you're being serious...
Completely OT and I am sorry for that, this can probably be a new thread maybe called hshkafa or something. Either way I believe that the sun revolves around the earth (based on the rambam). And scientifically it is an embarrassment to Einstein's theory of relativity that many think the possibility of the sun revolving around the earth is an impossibility.
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Re: A Rally in Honor... Mohamed Merah Yimach Shemo
« Reply #137 on: March 29, 2012, 01:15:59 PM »
i think taht if you ask a true brisker they will tell you that the sun does revolve around the earth like the rambam

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Re: A Rally in Honor... Mohamed Merah Yimach Shemo
« Reply #138 on: March 29, 2012, 01:16:57 PM »
i think taht if you ask a true brisker they will tell you that the sun does revolve around the earth like the rambam
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Re: A Rally in Honor... Mohamed Merah Yimach Shemo
« Reply #139 on: March 29, 2012, 01:17:30 PM »
Because we need to be PC at all costs.
+1.  Oh, the costs of freedom and equality.
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Re: A Rally in Honor... Mohamed Merah Yimach Shemo
« Reply #140 on: March 29, 2012, 01:18:32 PM »
i think taht if you ask a true brisker they will tell you that the sun does revolve around the earth like the rambam
I thought the sun revolves around the Rambam
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Re: A Rally in Honor... Mohamed Merah Yimach Shemo
« Reply #141 on: March 29, 2012, 02:07:17 PM »
It is relevant because we know Amalek will only be killed when Mashiach comes. And when that happens the world will see the truth about Hashem and the fact that he was hidden for all these years.

That's actually a good point, but I'm not sure it changes the calculus... By killing Amalek after Mashiach comes, we'd be following the word of our Gd, our Bible. Given the point in history from which your analyzing it (i.e. after the arrival of Mashiach), the entire world would finally be privy to the ultimate truth.* However, at this point, we are not as fortunate. The various worldly religions believe they are the ones who have it correct, and anyone else does not. To wit: The extremist Muslims believe that by killing all "infidels" they are following their Gd's command, and their "Bible." Religious Christians believe there will be a second coming... so on and so forth.

Now, as someone who is a Jew, I believe my religion is the one and only correct one. (Obviously, otherwise, I'd just switch.) That said, it's wrong to fault an entire religion for the actions of its extremist, fundamentalist sects. 

*By the way, if everyone will be enlightened after Mashiach, that presumably includes Amalek. Are you suggesting they will throw themselves at our swords and willingly die because they know the soverignty of HaShem?

Right now, the Muslims are the perpetrators, so why aren't we responding accordingly?

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Re: A Rally in Honor... Mohamed Merah Yimach Shemo
« Reply #142 on: March 29, 2012, 02:19:01 PM »
Who is we?
Every non-muslim. And Muslims who claim the extremists are violating the religion.
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Re: A Rally in Honor... Mohamed Merah Yimach Shemo
« Reply #143 on: March 29, 2012, 02:20:40 PM »
Every non-muslim. And Muslims who claim the extremists are violating the religion.

 ???

Surely you don't mean that there isn't anyone protesting suicide bombings...
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Re: A Rally in Honor... Mohamed Merah Yimach Shemo
« Reply #144 on: March 29, 2012, 02:26:27 PM »
???

Surely you don't mean that there isn't anyone protesting suicide bombings...
But somehow protesting hasn't been an effective deterrent.
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Re: A Rally in Honor... Mohamed Merah Yimach Shemo
« Reply #145 on: March 29, 2012, 02:33:46 PM »
But somehow protesting hasn't been an effective deterrent.

Right, but that doesn't mean people do not protest.

Not sure what all that stuff about PC was...

But protests are meaningless. Violent people only understand coercion and violence.
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Re: A Rally in Honor... Mohamed Merah Yimach Shemo
« Reply #146 on: March 29, 2012, 02:36:28 PM »
really we need to unleash jack bauer on the extremists

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Re: A Rally in Honor... Mohamed Merah Yimach Shemo
« Reply #147 on: March 29, 2012, 02:47:31 PM »
Right, but that doesn't mean people do not protest.

Not sure what all that stuff about PC was...

But protests are meaningless. Violent people only understand coercion and violence.
PC = can't take security precautions when it comes to muslims (e.g. TSA, NYPD), can't recognize that "innocent" citizens (e.g. Palestinians) can't be guilty of aiding terror.
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Re: A Rally in Honor... Mohamed Merah Yimach Shemo
« Reply #148 on: March 29, 2012, 02:56:58 PM »
Just an input of my personal opinion: AJK is absolutely right. After all, jews and (extreme) muslims both have a guiding by their religion to kill innocent man women and children. Period. The only difference is that jews are not yet fulfilling their obligations (for whatever reason) and muslims do. In theory it doesn't matter weather we actually do it or not, the point is what our religion wants us to do, and thats it.
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Re: A Rally in Honor... Mohamed Merah Yimach Shemo
« Reply #149 on: March 29, 2012, 02:58:42 PM »
Just an input of my personal opinion: AJK is absolutely right. After all, jews and (extreme) muslims both have a guiding by their religion to kill innocent man women and children. Period. The only difference is that jews are not yet fulfilling their obligations (for whatever reason) and muslims do. In theory it doesn't matter weather we actually do it or not, the point is what our religion wants us to do, and thats it.
So we should let them?!?
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