American Airlines Lawsuit For Gift Card Fraud

[yaakov s]

IIRC that was the guy who advertized in all the circulars about the 100k MR Amex signup bonus matching...

Why would AA be involved in that? If anyone would care it would be Amex.

[AsherO]

Why would AA be involved in that? If anyone would care it would be Amex.

The guy was probably rolling in MR points, so AA might assume he's a mileage broker?

[Saver2000]

The guy was probably rolling in MR points, so AA might assume he's a mileage broker?

How would AA know that he's rolling in MR?

A possible theory would be that he ordered hundreds of AA gc's from his IP/email, so they suspect him of fraud. 

(He helped his customers cash out the credit)

[michael]

How would AA know that he's rolling in MR?

A possible theory would be that he ordered hundreds of AA gc's from his IP/email, so they suspect him of fraud. 

(He helped his customers cash out the credit)

I'm pretty sure he even applied for many of the customers himself. He just asked for the necessary information and did it all.

[Ergel]

I'm pretty sure he even applied for many of the customers himself. He just asked for the necessary information and did it all.

People gave him their ssn. I didn't realize how dumb people are

[Lamdan]

@AsherO, where did you see the list?

[trying123]

I'm pretty sure he even applied for many of the customers himself. He just asked for the necessary information and did it all.

but tht still doesn't explain y aa should care , they where paid in full for all the gc's , amex was the one reimbursing all the purchases, so if anything amex should b on top of  it for all who exploited there promo of flight incidentals

And whts even more funny,  is the fact tht this thread is up quite a while and ppl keep adding input from wht they heard or saw on the subpoenas, and yet no one posted a copy or at least a link to the subpoena

[AJK]

And whts even more funny,  is the fact tht this thread is up quite a while and ppl keep adding input from wht they heard or saw on the subpoenas, and yet no one posted a copy or at least a link to the subpoena

Why is that funny? or necessary?

[Saver2000]

@AsherO, where did you see the list?

It was attached to the subpoena that was sent out.

[trying123]

Ok I'll agree I used the wrong word saying funny,  but on the question y it's necessary, I have 2 answers 1. Y is the whole thread discussion about the subpoenas necessary,  - the word necessary isn't right ppl r curious and ppl want to know which avenues r dangerous to cross,  we all here on ddf exploit various programs and promotions , and we discuss the risks of some of them, and the benefits of the others, so it could b NECESSARY to know wht was done, and know not to do it
2. Some of us here for instance sold to amexoffers @Gmail and shared info with him or asked him specific questions on how to order cards from aa and how to fool amex on thinking it's for flight (by ordering gc's less then 100$ etc)  so naturally they want to follow such a case by seeing subpoenas, by seeing the filings, the verdict ,...
And I find it somewhat interesting tht between such a professional crowd on ddf that have the knowhow to dig up all kind of promos , and all kinds of ways to work around with  the promos and yet no one tht saw the subpoenas had the extra minute to post original court documents

[Ergel]

Ok I'll agree I used the wrong word saying funny,  but on the question y it's necessary, I have 2 answers 1. Y is the whole thread discussion about the subpoenas necessary,  - the word necessary isn't right ppl r curious and ppl want to know which avenues r dangerous to cross,  we all here on ddf exploit various programs and promotions , and we discuss the risks of some of them, and the benefits of the others, so it could b NECESSARY to know wht was done, and know not to do it
2. Some of us here for instance sold to amexoffers @Gmail and shared info with him or asked him specific questions on how to order cards from aa and how to fool amex on thinking it's for flight (by ordering gc's less then 100$ etc)  so naturally they want to follow such a case by seeing subpoenas, by seeing the filings, the verdict ,...
And I find it somewhat interesting tht between such a professional crowd on ddf that have the knowhow to dig up all kind of promos , and all kinds of ways to work around with  the promos and yet no one tht saw the subpoenas had the extra minute to post original court documents

Why are you so upset?

[trying123]

In which word of mine did u see upsetness
I'm jost curious if there is a reason y ppl aren't posting

[ye]

I'm jost curious if there is a reason y ppl aren't posting

Because there is nothing to be gained from it other than revealing around 200 people's email addresses.
It does not give any reason why AA is asking for this information.

[trying123]

It doesn't have a case or docket # on it?

[AJK]

It doesn't have a case or docket # on it?

American Airlines, Inc. v. Xavier Jones,
District Court of Tarrant County

[bubbles]

How would AA know that he's rolling in MR?

A possible theory would be that he ordered hundreds of AA gc's from his IP/email, so they suspect him of fraud. 

(He helped his customers cash out the credit)

It also says on some of his signs we buy aa gift cards

[dans fan]

i have a feeling this is the reason for nj being bl for buying aa gc

[AJK]

i have a feeling this is the reason for nj being bl for buying aa gc

+1, I have the same suspicion.

[gozalim]

i have a feeling this is the reason for nj being bl for buying aa gc

isn't it more likely due to new laws n NJ re: GCs? (isn't amex stopping NJ GC?)

[SPLP]

isn't it more likely due to new laws n NJ re: GCs? (isn't amex stopping NJ GC?)

I thought it had to do with compliance of abandoned property , or just red tape and was not worth the expense -- can not believe a large corp would stop doing biz because of fraud in one state