Topic Wiki

Color codes:
Green (7 programs): Never charges a fuel surcharge on their own or partner award tickets.
Lime (2 program): Does not charge a fuel surcharge for their own or for partner flights except for when flying on select partners.
Blue (3 programs): Charges a fuel surcharge for flying on their own metal and for flying on partners that normally collect a fuel surcharge for flying on their own metal.  Does not charge a fuel surcharge for flying on partners that normally do not collect a fuel surcharge when flying on their own metal.

Purple (1 program): Doesn't charge a fuel surcharge for their own or partner flights originating from the US.  Charges a fuel surcharge for their own and for partner flights originating outside of the US.
Teal (1 program):Charges a fuel surcharge for their own and for partner flights except for when flying on select partners.
Red (8 programs): Always charges a fuel surcharge on award tickets, even on partners that normally don't charge a fuel surcharge.
Orange (21 programs): Unknown or incomplete info.

Star:
Adria: ???
Air Canada: Charges a fuel surcharge for flying on their own metal.  Does not charge a fuel surcharge for flying on partner airlines.
Note: If you fly on these carriers you will pay a fuel surcharge: Adria, Air Canada, ANA, Asiana, Austrian, LOT Polish, Lufthansa, TAP Portugal, and THAI.
If you fly on these carriers you will not pay a fuel surcharge: Aegean, Air China, Air New Zealand, Avianca/TACA, Brussels, Copa, Croatia, EgyptAir, Ethiopian, SAS, Singapore, South African, Swiss, TAM, Turkish, United, and USAirways.
Air China: ???
Air New Zealand: ??? (Does charge on own metal, unknown about partners)
ANA: Charges a fuel surcharge for their own and for partner flights except for when flying on select partners.
Asiana: ??? (Does charge on own metal, unknown about partners)
Austrian: ???
EgyptAir: ???
Miles And More (Adria, Austrian, Brussels, Croatia, LOT Polish, Lufthansa, and Swiss): Always charges a fuel surcharge on award tickets, even on partners that normally don't charge a fuel surcharge.

Exception: No fuel surcharge for redeeming any Miles and More carrier on miles for flying on Lot Polish.
EuroBonus (Blue1, SAS): Never charges a fuel surcharge on their own or partner award tickets.
Shanghai: ???
Singapore: No longer charges for flights on their own metal but does for partner flights except for when flying on select partners.
Note: Singapore charges a surcharge for travel on most partners, with the exceptions being United and Virgin Australia.
South African: Never charges a fuel surcharge on their own or partner award tickets.
TAM: Never charges a fuel surcharge on their own or partner award tickets.
Tap Portugal ???
Thai: ???  (Does charge on own metal, unknown about partners)
Turkish: Charges on all flights including partner flights (confirmation needed about partner flights)
United: Never charges a fuel surcharge on their own or partner award tickets.

OneWorld:
AA: Does not charge a fuel surcharge for their own or for partner flights except for when flying on select partners.
Note: AA does charge a hefty fuel surcharge for redemption on partner British Airways, and a small fuel surcharge for flying on Iberia, however they do not charge it for redemption on their own metal or on other partners.
British Airways:Charges a fuel surcharge for their own and for partner flights except for when flying on select partners.
Note: BA charges a surcharge for travel on most partners, with the exceptions being Aer Lingus, Alaska, and LAN.  BA does not collect a fuel surcharge on AA flights that are wholly within the Western Hemisphere.
BA also does not collect fuel surcharges for flights within Europe.
You can transfer BA Avios to Iberia to save on fuel surcharges collected on Iberia flights.

Cathay Pacific: Always charges a fuel surcharge on award tickets, even on partners that normally don't charge a fuel surcharge.
Finnair: ???
Iberia: ???
JAL:  Always charges a fuel surcharge on award tickets, even on partners that normally don't charge a fuel surcharge.
LAN: Never charges a fuel surcharge on their own or partner award tickets.
Qantas: Charges a fuel surcharge for flying on their own metal and for flying on partners that normally collect a fuel surcharge, exception being travel on El Al metal where they don't charge fuel surcharges even though El Al does charge.  Does not charge a fuel surcharge for flying on partners that normally do not collect a fuel surcharge. 
Royal Jordanian: ???

Skyteam:
Aeroflot: ???
AeroMexico: Charges a fuel surcharge on some (possibly all) award tickets on their own metal. Unknown if they charge fuel surcharges on partner awards.
Alitalia: Always charges a fuel surcharge on award tickets, even on partners that normally don't charge a fuel surcharge.
China Southern: ???
Czech: ???
Delta: Doesn't charge a fuel surcharge for their own or partner flights originating from the US.  Charges a fuel surcharge for their own and for partner flights originating outside of the US.
Note: Delta does charge a hefty fuel surcharge for redemption on partners Malaysia and Virgin Australia, even on flight originating in the United States.
Flying Blue (AirEuropa, Air France, Kenya, KLM): Charges a fuel surcharge for flying on their own metal and for flying on partners that normally collect a fuel surcharge.  Does not charge a fuel surcharge for flying on partners that normally do not collect a fuel surcharge.
Note: This means no fuel surcharges for Delta flights.
Korean: ???
Tarom: ???
Vietnam: ???

Unaligned:
Alaska: Does not charge a fuel surcharge for their own or for partner flights except for when flying on select partners.

Note: Alaska does charge a hefty fuel surcharge for redemption on partner British Airways, however they do not charge it for redemption on their own metal or on other partners like AA, Air France/KLM, Cathay Pacific, Delta, or Qantas.
El Al: Always charges a fuel surcharge on award tickets.
Emirates: Never charges a fuel surcharge on their own or partner award tickets.
Virgin Atlantic: Always charges a fuel surcharge on award tickets, even on partners that normally don't charge a fuel surcharge.
« Last edited by as2 on January 01, 2019, 06:29:17 PM »

Author Topic: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!  (Read 659258 times)

Offline aussiebochur

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: May 2010
  • Posts: 5328
  • Total likes: 8
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 24
    • View Profile
Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #100 on: September 13, 2010, 06:55:04 AM »
LA (Lan) gives me €102.87 for FRA-SCL (Santiago). Id say no surcharge. Care to differ?

Offline aussiebochur

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: May 2010
  • Posts: 5328
  • Total likes: 8
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 24
    • View Profile
Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #101 on: September 13, 2010, 06:59:53 AM »
PX (Air Niugini) has a surcharge.

Offline aussiebochur

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: May 2010
  • Posts: 5328
  • Total likes: 8
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 24
    • View Profile
Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #102 on: September 13, 2010, 07:06:05 AM »
NF (Air Vanuatu) does have a surcharge.

Offline aussiebochur

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: May 2010
  • Posts: 5328
  • Total likes: 8
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 24
    • View Profile
Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #103 on: September 13, 2010, 07:10:45 AM »
MA (Malev) flying BUD-TLV is £99.30. Not sure on this one, likes pretty high.

Offline aussiebochur

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: May 2010
  • Posts: 5328
  • Total likes: 8
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 24
    • View Profile
Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #104 on: September 13, 2010, 07:13:43 AM »
Of the ones search-able online, the only one I couldnt do is SA. If someone can find a city pair that gives a SA flight Ill check it.
The other couple of airlines are local aussie ones, dont think they make a difference, doubt anyone will fly them.

Offline Dan

  • Administrator
  • Dansdeals Lifetime 50K Diamond Elite
  • **********
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 70321
  • Total likes: 19587
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 16442
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: CLE
  • Programs: UA GS, AA EXP, DL Dirt, Hyatt Glob, Fairmont Lifetime Plat, DD Diamond, Blocked By @NeriaKraus
Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #105 on: September 13, 2010, 10:22:06 AM »
Nice work Aussie!
I think we can safely say that the £57.20 charge for DUB-ORD means that they don't charge a fuel surcharge on Air Lingus.

After Air Lingus left OneWorld I didn't realize they were still partners with Qantas.

The LAN charge is slightly more suspect, can you check a more simple LAN routing (YYZ-JFK or JFK-SCL) and see what that is?

Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

Offline aussiebochur

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: May 2010
  • Posts: 5328
  • Total likes: 8
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 24
    • View Profile
Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #106 on: September 13, 2010, 12:58:21 PM »
Nice work Aussie!
I think we can safely say that the £57.20 charge for DUB-ORD means that they don't charge a fuel surcharge on Air Lingus.

After Air Lingus left OneWorld I didn't realize they were still partners with Qantas.

The LAN charge is slightly more suspect, can you check a more simple LAN routing (YYZ-JFK or JFK-SCL) and see what that is?
YYZ-JFK it only shows AA and SCL-JFK, I can only get the return on LA, all the outbound are AA flights...

Offline Dan

  • Administrator
  • Dansdeals Lifetime 50K Diamond Elite
  • **********
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 70321
  • Total likes: 19587
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 16442
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: CLE
  • Programs: UA GS, AA EXP, DL Dirt, Hyatt Glob, Fairmont Lifetime Plat, DD Diamond, Blocked By @NeriaKraus
Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #107 on: September 13, 2010, 02:09:03 PM »
YYZ-JFK it only shows AA and SCL-JFK, I can only get the return on LA, all the outbound are AA flights...
JFK-EZE, 03/08-03/21 is showing up on QF.
LAN wants $61.50 taxes for that route.
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

Offline aussiebochur

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: May 2010
  • Posts: 5328
  • Total likes: 8
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 24
    • View Profile
Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #108 on: September 13, 2010, 02:35:49 PM »
For some reason its telling me that EZE cannot be found but JFK-BUE is $61.50

Offline Dan

  • Administrator
  • Dansdeals Lifetime 50K Diamond Elite
  • **********
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 70321
  • Total likes: 19587
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 16442
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: CLE
  • Programs: UA GS, AA EXP, DL Dirt, Hyatt Glob, Fairmont Lifetime Plat, DD Diamond, Blocked By @NeriaKraus
Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #109 on: September 13, 2010, 02:56:18 PM »
For some reason its telling me that EZE cannot be found but JFK-BUE is $61.50
BUE is just the general term for all BA airports, like NYC.

So it looks like QF is properly categorized, as the only airline that charges a fuel surcharge only when partner airlines also charge on.
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

Offline Dan

  • Administrator
  • Dansdeals Lifetime 50K Diamond Elite
  • **********
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 70321
  • Total likes: 19587
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 16442
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: CLE
  • Programs: UA GS, AA EXP, DL Dirt, Hyatt Glob, Fairmont Lifetime Plat, DD Diamond, Blocked By @NeriaKraus
Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #110 on: September 13, 2010, 02:57:05 PM »
Whats the deal with El Al?
Do they charge a surcharge for redeeming on AA?
Anyone else know any of the other airlines policies that are still left as question marks in the first post.
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

Offline Dan

  • Administrator
  • Dansdeals Lifetime 50K Diamond Elite
  • **********
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 70321
  • Total likes: 19587
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 16442
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: CLE
  • Programs: UA GS, AA EXP, DL Dirt, Hyatt Glob, Fairmont Lifetime Plat, DD Diamond, Blocked By @NeriaKraus
Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #111 on: October 02, 2010, 10:00:37 PM »
AA has been moved from "Green" to "Lime" in the original post.
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

Offline shmiel

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite
  • ****
  • Join Date: Jul 2010
  • Posts: 284
  • Total likes: 0
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
  • Location: NYC
Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #112 on: October 03, 2010, 06:56:15 AM »
Did anyone here use ANA to book on Air Canada? Was wondering if there is a fuel surcharge. And if there is, can I avoid the surcharges by booking a connection with only one leg being AC. Sorry if I wasn't thorough enough in glancing through this topic. (I am trying to do 10/17 PHL-YYZ return 10/20 YYZ-EWR or LGA. I am using a workaround [mentioned on DD forums] to check *A flights. Since I have no points in my ANA account they don't show me how much the taxes would be)

Offline Dan

  • Administrator
  • Dansdeals Lifetime 50K Diamond Elite
  • **********
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 70321
  • Total likes: 19587
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 16442
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: CLE
  • Programs: UA GS, AA EXP, DL Dirt, Hyatt Glob, Fairmont Lifetime Plat, DD Diamond, Blocked By @NeriaKraus
Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #113 on: October 03, 2010, 11:26:25 AM »
Did anyone here use ANA to book on Air Canada? Was wondering if there is a fuel surcharge. And if there is, can I avoid the surcharges by booking a connection with only one leg being AC. Sorry if I wasn't thorough enough in glancing through this topic. (I am trying to do 10/17 PHL-YYZ return 10/20 YYZ-EWR or LGA. I am using a workaround [mentioned on DD forums] to check *A flights. Since I have no points in my ANA account they don't show me how much the taxes would be)
ANA: Charges a fuel surcharge for their own and for partner flights except for when flying on select partners.
Note: ANA charges a surcharge on most partners, but does not charge a fuel surcharge for redemption on Continental, USAirways, United, and Virgin Atlantic.
The less legs you have on a fuel-surcharge partner, the less the fuel surcharge will be.
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

Offline Dan

  • Administrator
  • Dansdeals Lifetime 50K Diamond Elite
  • **********
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 70321
  • Total likes: 19587
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 16442
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: CLE
  • Programs: UA GS, AA EXP, DL Dirt, Hyatt Glob, Fairmont Lifetime Plat, DD Diamond, Blocked By @NeriaKraus
Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #114 on: October 04, 2010, 12:45:43 AM »
Whats the deal with El Al?
Do they charge a surcharge for redeeming on AA?
Anyone else know any of the other airlines policies that are still left as question marks in the first post.
Bump.
Nobody has any experience with El Al redemptions here?
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

Offline moshegold

  • Dansdeals Silver Elite
  • **
  • Join Date: Jan 2010
  • Posts: 65
  • Total likes: 0
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #115 on: October 04, 2010, 08:45:25 PM »
you can't redeem el al points on aa

Offline Dan

  • Administrator
  • Dansdeals Lifetime 50K Diamond Elite
  • **********
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 70321
  • Total likes: 19587
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 16442
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: CLE
  • Programs: UA GS, AA EXP, DL Dirt, Hyatt Glob, Fairmont Lifetime Plat, DD Diamond, Blocked By @NeriaKraus
Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #116 on: October 04, 2010, 09:08:07 PM »
you can't redeem el al points on aa
You can't redeem El Al points on any partners?
Wow, they really are worthless!
Amazing that AA allows for redemption on El Al at all.
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

Offline isac

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite
  • ****
  • Join Date: Apr 2010
  • Posts: 392
  • Total likes: 0
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
  • Programs: SPG/Marriott Plat
Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #117 on: October 28, 2010, 06:57:44 PM »
does anyone know the charges on a matmid point ticket (business) nyc-tlv?

Offline Dan

  • Administrator
  • Dansdeals Lifetime 50K Diamond Elite
  • **********
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 70321
  • Total likes: 19587
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 16442
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: CLE
  • Programs: UA GS, AA EXP, DL Dirt, Hyatt Glob, Fairmont Lifetime Plat, DD Diamond, Blocked By @NeriaKraus
Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #118 on: November 04, 2010, 11:56:21 PM »
al613 commented that BMI doesn't charge a fuel surcharge for redemption on USAir or LOT Polish.
Super, have you experienced that as well?

I have to update BA, but quite frankly I have no idea what their policy is at this point.
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

Offline Dan

  • Administrator
  • Dansdeals Lifetime 50K Diamond Elite
  • **********
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 70321
  • Total likes: 19587
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 16442
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: CLE
  • Programs: UA GS, AA EXP, DL Dirt, Hyatt Glob, Fairmont Lifetime Plat, DD Diamond, Blocked By @NeriaKraus
Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #119 on: November 07, 2010, 10:46:26 PM »
New BA surcharges on partner carriers based on searches I made today on BA.com:

AA: Online=no fuel surcharge (as of 11/07)  By phone=fuel surcharges on international flights, unknown for domestic flights.
British Airways: Fuel Surcharge
Cathay Pacific: Fuel Surcharge
Finnair: Fuel Surcharge
Iberia: Fuel Surcharge
JAL:  Fuel Surcharge
LAN: Online=no fuel surcharge (as of 11/07).  By phone=???
Malev:  Fuel Surcharge
Qantas: Fuel Surcharge
Royal Jordanian: Fuel Surcharge
« Last Edit: November 07, 2010, 10:50:03 PM by Dan »
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.