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Green (7 programs): Never charges a fuel surcharge on their own or partner award tickets.
Lime (2 program): Does not charge a fuel surcharge for their own or for partner flights except for when flying on select partners.
Blue (3 programs): Charges a fuel surcharge for flying on their own metal and for flying on partners that normally collect a fuel surcharge for flying on their own metal.  Does not charge a fuel surcharge for flying on partners that normally do not collect a fuel surcharge when flying on their own metal.

Purple (1 program): Doesn't charge a fuel surcharge for their own or partner flights originating from the US.  Charges a fuel surcharge for their own and for partner flights originating outside of the US.
Teal (1 program):Charges a fuel surcharge for their own and for partner flights except for when flying on select partners.
Red (8 programs): Always charges a fuel surcharge on award tickets, even on partners that normally don't charge a fuel surcharge.
Orange (21 programs): Unknown or incomplete info.

Star:
Adria: ???
Air Canada: Charges a fuel surcharge for flying on their own metal.  Does not charge a fuel surcharge for flying on partner airlines.
Note: If you fly on these carriers you will pay a fuel surcharge: Adria, Air Canada, ANA, Asiana, Austrian, LOT Polish, Lufthansa, TAP Portugal, and THAI.
If you fly on these carriers you will not pay a fuel surcharge: Aegean, Air China, Air New Zealand, Avianca/TACA, Brussels, Copa, Croatia, EgyptAir, Ethiopian, SAS, Singapore, South African, Swiss, TAM, Turkish, United, and USAirways.
Air China: ???
Air New Zealand: ??? (Does charge on own metal, unknown about partners)
ANA: Charges a fuel surcharge for their own and for partner flights except for when flying on select partners.
Asiana: ??? (Does charge on own metal, unknown about partners)
Austrian: ???
EgyptAir: ???
Miles And More (Adria, Austrian, Brussels, Croatia, LOT Polish, Lufthansa, and Swiss): Always charges a fuel surcharge on award tickets, even on partners that normally don't charge a fuel surcharge.

Exception: No fuel surcharge for redeeming any Miles and More carrier on miles for flying on Lot Polish.
EuroBonus (Blue1, SAS): Never charges a fuel surcharge on their own or partner award tickets.
Shanghai: ???
Singapore: No longer charges for flights on their own metal but does for partner flights except for when flying on select partners.
Note: Singapore charges a surcharge for travel on most partners, with the exceptions being United and Virgin Australia.
South African: Never charges a fuel surcharge on their own or partner award tickets.
TAM: Never charges a fuel surcharge on their own or partner award tickets.
Tap Portugal ???
Thai: ???  (Does charge on own metal, unknown about partners)
Turkish: Charges on all flights including partner flights (confirmation needed about partner flights)
United: Never charges a fuel surcharge on their own or partner award tickets.

OneWorld:
AA: Does not charge a fuel surcharge for their own or for partner flights except for when flying on select partners.
Note: AA does charge a hefty fuel surcharge for redemption on partner British Airways, and a small fuel surcharge for flying on Iberia, however they do not charge it for redemption on their own metal or on other partners.
British Airways:Charges a fuel surcharge for their own and for partner flights except for when flying on select partners.
Note: BA charges a surcharge for travel on most partners, with the exceptions being Aer Lingus, Alaska, and LAN.  BA does not collect a fuel surcharge on AA flights that are wholly within the Western Hemisphere.
BA also does not collect fuel surcharges for flights within Europe.
You can transfer BA Avios to Iberia to save on fuel surcharges collected on Iberia flights.

Cathay Pacific: Always charges a fuel surcharge on award tickets, even on partners that normally don't charge a fuel surcharge.
Finnair: ???
Iberia: ???
JAL:  Always charges a fuel surcharge on award tickets, even on partners that normally don't charge a fuel surcharge.
LAN: Never charges a fuel surcharge on their own or partner award tickets.
Qantas: Charges a fuel surcharge for flying on their own metal and for flying on partners that normally collect a fuel surcharge, exception being travel on El Al metal where they don't charge fuel surcharges even though El Al does charge.  Does not charge a fuel surcharge for flying on partners that normally do not collect a fuel surcharge. 
Royal Jordanian: ???

Skyteam:
Aeroflot: ???
AeroMexico: Charges a fuel surcharge on some (possibly all) award tickets on their own metal. Unknown if they charge fuel surcharges on partner awards.
Alitalia: Always charges a fuel surcharge on award tickets, even on partners that normally don't charge a fuel surcharge.
China Southern: ???
Czech: ???
Delta: Doesn't charge a fuel surcharge for their own or partner flights originating from the US.  Charges a fuel surcharge for their own and for partner flights originating outside of the US.
Note: Delta does charge a hefty fuel surcharge for redemption on partners Malaysia and Virgin Australia, even on flight originating in the United States.
Flying Blue (AirEuropa, Air France, Kenya, KLM): Charges a fuel surcharge for flying on their own metal and for flying on partners that normally collect a fuel surcharge.  Does not charge a fuel surcharge for flying on partners that normally do not collect a fuel surcharge.
Note: This means no fuel surcharges for Delta flights.
Korean: ???
Tarom: ???
Vietnam: ???

Unaligned:
Alaska: Does not charge a fuel surcharge for their own or for partner flights except for when flying on select partners.

Note: Alaska does charge a hefty fuel surcharge for redemption on partner British Airways, however they do not charge it for redemption on their own metal or on other partners like AA, Air France/KLM, Cathay Pacific, Delta, or Qantas.
El Al: Always charges a fuel surcharge on award tickets.
Emirates: Never charges a fuel surcharge on their own or partner award tickets.
Virgin Atlantic: Always charges a fuel surcharge on award tickets, even on partners that normally don't charge a fuel surcharge.
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #280 on: December 28, 2012, 05:31:06 AM »
im trying to book a trip from israel through europe with a couple of stops on united using star alliance partners and i am coming up with 35,000 miles for the whole trip, but between 4 and 6 hundred dollars in fees-are those taxes or furl surcharges?

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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #281 on: December 28, 2012, 06:13:08 AM »
im trying to book a trip from israel through europe with a couple of stops on united using star alliance partners and i am coming up with 35,000 miles for the whole trip, but between 4 and 6 hundred dollars in fees-are those taxes or furl surcharges?
As per the OP, UA never charges Fuel Surcharges (otherwise known as YQ). Taxes at some EU airports can be high. LHR is over $200 for arriving and departing
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #282 on: January 02, 2013, 08:36:09 AM »
I checked the following routing on Ethiopian.
TLV - SEZ - TLV

Here is the list of extra fees ITA is showing me.
ET YR surcharge (YR)                                                   $280.00
Israeli Departure Tax (IL)                                            $24.07
Seychelles International Passenger Service Fee (DW)   $50.00


From what I can see, YR isn't a fuel surcharge.
Does that mean that this route doesn't have YQ?

EDIT: YR is their YQ. 
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/miles-more-lufthansa-austrian-swiss-other-partners/1421919-fuel-surcharges-ethiopian.html

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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #283 on: January 21, 2013, 11:08:21 PM »
what happened in the end with AC and YQ on all airlines? Did they make that terrible change or is it only the carriers mentioned in Dan's post at the beginning of the thread?

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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #284 on: January 22, 2013, 10:08:29 PM »
Someone posted a comment that ANA isn't charging a YQ for EWR-TLV on UA right now.
Can anyone confirm?
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #285 on: January 22, 2013, 10:46:45 PM »
Someone posted a comment that ANA isn't charging a YQ for EWR-TLV on UA right now.
Can anyone confirm?
Bump.
EWR-TLV on April 16-24 for example, anyone have the miles to check the taxes?
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #286 on: January 23, 2013, 09:24:58 AM »
Bump.
EWR-TLV on April 16-24 for example, anyone have the miles to check the taxes?

I wish I had the ANA miles to try but it would definitely be interesting if that was the case..

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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #288 on: January 23, 2013, 12:56:43 PM »
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Awe.some.

Are we sure it's only on UA and US? No other partners?

ETA: I know you tried VS and LH... but others?
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #289 on: January 23, 2013, 12:57:24 PM »
Awe.some.

Are we sure it's only on UA and US? No other partners?
No idea.  The only others I checked were LH and VS, feel free to call with others and let us know.
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #290 on: January 23, 2013, 12:58:16 PM »
No idea.  The only others I checked were LH and VS, feel free to call with others and let us know.

Yeah, see the edit.

I'm interested in one in particular... can you guess?
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #291 on: January 23, 2013, 01:59:19 PM »
So nobody on DDF has enough ANA miles in their account to check taxes??
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #292 on: January 23, 2013, 02:20:55 PM »
So nobody on DDF has enough ANA miles in their account to check taxes??
I guess you found out. Thanks for such an awesome find!!

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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #293 on: January 23, 2013, 02:21:34 PM »
I guess you found out. Thanks for such an awesome find!!
Yes, but I'd love to play around online to check the other *A carriers.
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #294 on: January 23, 2013, 02:25:06 PM »
Yes, but I'd love to play around online to check the other *A carriers.
Wonder why they would not have fuel surchages on just US airways and United. Would it be a USA thing due to the fact that the US airlines don't charge YQ?

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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #295 on: January 23, 2013, 02:27:49 PM »
Would it be a USA thing due to the fact that the US airlines don't charge YQ?
Could be.
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #296 on: January 23, 2013, 02:34:38 PM »
I'm interested in one in particular... can you guess?

OK, now the question is open to anyone :)

Hint: They used to NOT charge YQ, but have recently started.
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #297 on: January 23, 2013, 02:37:16 PM »
OK, now the question is open to anyone :)

Hint: They used to NOT charge YQ, but have recently started.

AC?

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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #298 on: January 23, 2013, 04:23:56 PM »
AC?

Nope.

I'm disappointed in you guys!

Perhaps Side Incomer, aussiebochur, or PlatinumGuy knows?
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #299 on: January 23, 2013, 06:50:36 PM »
Nope.
Any idea what happened to the rumors that AC will start charging on all carriers?