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Green (7 programs): Never charges a fuel surcharge on their own or partner award tickets.
Lime (2 program): Does not charge a fuel surcharge for their own or for partner flights except for when flying on select partners.
Blue (3 programs): Charges a fuel surcharge for flying on their own metal and for flying on partners that normally collect a fuel surcharge for flying on their own metal.  Does not charge a fuel surcharge for flying on partners that normally do not collect a fuel surcharge when flying on their own metal.

Purple (1 program): Doesn't charge a fuel surcharge for their own or partner flights originating from the US.  Charges a fuel surcharge for their own and for partner flights originating outside of the US.
Teal (1 program):Charges a fuel surcharge for their own and for partner flights except for when flying on select partners.
Red (8 programs): Always charges a fuel surcharge on award tickets, even on partners that normally don't charge a fuel surcharge.
Orange (21 programs): Unknown or incomplete info.

Star:
Adria: ???
Air Canada: Charges a fuel surcharge for flying on their own metal.  Does not charge a fuel surcharge for flying on partner airlines.
Note: If you fly on these carriers you will pay a fuel surcharge: Adria, Air Canada, ANA, Asiana, Austrian, LOT Polish, Lufthansa, TAP Portugal, and THAI.
If you fly on these carriers you will not pay a fuel surcharge: Aegean, Air China, Air New Zealand, Avianca/TACA, Brussels, Copa, Croatia, EgyptAir, Ethiopian, SAS, Singapore, South African, Swiss, TAM, Turkish, United, and USAirways.
Air China: ???
Air New Zealand: ??? (Does charge on own metal, unknown about partners)
ANA: Charges a fuel surcharge for their own and for partner flights except for when flying on select partners.
Asiana: ??? (Does charge on own metal, unknown about partners)
Austrian: ???
EgyptAir: ???
Miles And More (Adria, Austrian, Brussels, Croatia, LOT Polish, Lufthansa, and Swiss): Always charges a fuel surcharge on award tickets, even on partners that normally don't charge a fuel surcharge.

Exception: No fuel surcharge for redeeming any Miles and More carrier on miles for flying on Lot Polish.
EuroBonus (Blue1, SAS): Never charges a fuel surcharge on their own or partner award tickets.
Shanghai: ???
Singapore: No longer charges for flights on their own metal but does for partner flights except for when flying on select partners.
Note: Singapore charges a surcharge for travel on most partners, with the exceptions being United and Virgin Australia.
South African: Never charges a fuel surcharge on their own or partner award tickets.
TAM: Never charges a fuel surcharge on their own or partner award tickets.
Tap Portugal ???
Thai: ???  (Does charge on own metal, unknown about partners)
Turkish: Charges on all flights including partner flights (confirmation needed about partner flights)
United: Never charges a fuel surcharge on their own or partner award tickets.

OneWorld:
AA: Does not charge a fuel surcharge for their own or for partner flights except for when flying on select partners.
Note: AA does charge a hefty fuel surcharge for redemption on partner British Airways, and a small fuel surcharge for flying on Iberia, however they do not charge it for redemption on their own metal or on other partners.
British Airways:Charges a fuel surcharge for their own and for partner flights except for when flying on select partners.
Note: BA charges a surcharge for travel on most partners, with the exceptions being Aer Lingus, Alaska, and LAN.  BA does not collect a fuel surcharge on AA flights that are wholly within the Western Hemisphere.
BA also does not collect fuel surcharges for flights within Europe.
You can transfer BA Avios to Iberia to save on fuel surcharges collected on Iberia flights.

Cathay Pacific: Always charges a fuel surcharge on award tickets, even on partners that normally don't charge a fuel surcharge.
Finnair: ???
Iberia: ???
JAL:  Always charges a fuel surcharge on award tickets, even on partners that normally don't charge a fuel surcharge.
LAN: Never charges a fuel surcharge on their own or partner award tickets.
Qantas: Charges a fuel surcharge for flying on their own metal and for flying on partners that normally collect a fuel surcharge, exception being travel on El Al metal where they don't charge fuel surcharges even though El Al does charge.  Does not charge a fuel surcharge for flying on partners that normally do not collect a fuel surcharge. 
Royal Jordanian: ???

Skyteam:
Aeroflot: ???
AeroMexico: Charges a fuel surcharge on some (possibly all) award tickets on their own metal. Unknown if they charge fuel surcharges on partner awards.
Alitalia: Always charges a fuel surcharge on award tickets, even on partners that normally don't charge a fuel surcharge.
China Southern: ???
Czech: ???
Delta: Doesn't charge a fuel surcharge for their own or partner flights originating from the US.  Charges a fuel surcharge for their own and for partner flights originating outside of the US.
Note: Delta does charge a hefty fuel surcharge for redemption on partners Malaysia and Virgin Australia, even on flight originating in the United States.
Flying Blue (AirEuropa, Air France, Kenya, KLM): Charges a fuel surcharge for flying on their own metal and for flying on partners that normally collect a fuel surcharge.  Does not charge a fuel surcharge for flying on partners that normally do not collect a fuel surcharge.
Note: This means no fuel surcharges for Delta flights.
Korean: ???
Tarom: ???
Vietnam: ???

Unaligned:
Alaska: Does not charge a fuel surcharge for their own or for partner flights except for when flying on select partners.

Note: Alaska does charge a hefty fuel surcharge for redemption on partner British Airways, however they do not charge it for redemption on their own metal or on other partners like AA, Air France/KLM, Cathay Pacific, Delta, or Qantas.
El Al: Always charges a fuel surcharge on award tickets.
Emirates: Never charges a fuel surcharge on their own or partner award tickets.
Virgin Atlantic: Always charges a fuel surcharge on award tickets, even on partners that normally don't charge a fuel surcharge.
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #320 on: February 20, 2013, 11:18:05 PM »
Is there any way to check the YQ of AC online for a specific flight if I do not have enough miles in the account yet?

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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #321 on: February 20, 2013, 11:20:09 PM »
Is there any way to check the YQ of AC online for a specific flight if I do not have enough miles in the account yet?
No, You need 50% IICC.

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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #322 on: February 20, 2013, 11:38:35 PM »
No, You need 50% IICC.
Yeah that's the message the system gave me. So dumb cause why would I transfer in the points without knowing in advance what it will cost me.

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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #323 on: February 20, 2013, 11:41:26 PM »
Yeah that's the message the system gave me. So dumb cause why would I transfer in the points without knowing in advance what it will cost me.
They want you to transfer the points first, so you will for sure book with them, rather than you seeing your ticket cost $600 in YQ and ditching them.


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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #324 on: February 20, 2013, 11:43:10 PM »
They want you to transfer the points first, so you will for sure book with them, rather than you seeing your ticket cost $600 in YQ and ditching them.
They would prob rather the points expire after 7 years ;)

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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #325 on: February 21, 2013, 03:35:05 AM »
Is there any way to check the YQ of AC online for a specific flight if I do not have enough miles in the account yet?
Should be the same as a paid flight for the airlines that they collect YQ.
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #326 on: February 21, 2013, 01:23:32 PM »
Should be the same as a paid flight for the airlines that they collect YQ.
That's genius although for some reason AC does not allow you to book a revenue ticket that does not have one leg being AC. For example when I try booking BKK-LHR or BKK-BRU nothing shows up. The agent told me the only way to book that is thru YVR!

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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #327 on: February 21, 2013, 01:24:29 PM »
That's genius although for some reason AC does not allow you to book a revenue ticket that does not have one leg being AC. For example when I try booking BKK-LHR or BKK-BRU nothing shows up. The agent told me the only way to book that is thru YVR!
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #328 on: February 21, 2013, 01:39:29 PM »
Search ITA
Thanks! If ITA shows the following I am assuming the YQ for the flight using Aeroplan would be 5655 Baht which is 189 USD? Not to bad.

Fare 1: Carrier TG QHOWTH BKK to LON (rules)
Passenger type ADT, ONE-WAY-ONLY fare, booking code Q
Covers BKK-LHR (Economy)  21,065.00
Thailand Passenger Service Charge (TS)  700.00
TG YQ surcharge (YQ)  5,500.00
TG YQ surcharge (YQ)  155.00



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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #329 on: February 21, 2013, 01:46:25 PM »
Correct.
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #330 on: April 18, 2013, 09:53:18 PM »
It seems from here that ANA doesn't charge YQ on AC metal.

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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #331 on: April 18, 2013, 09:57:45 PM »
YYZ-TLV on AC is $651.97 in coach.
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #332 on: April 18, 2013, 10:00:25 PM »
YYZ-TLV on AC is $651.97 in coach.
So why is YUL- GVA nothing. Isn't the main YQ crossing the pond.

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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #333 on: April 18, 2013, 10:03:51 PM »
Same reason why UA via ANA has no YQ to every continent except Asia.
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #334 on: April 18, 2013, 10:04:29 PM »
Same reason why UA via ANA has no YQ to every continent except Asia.
What's the reason?

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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #335 on: April 18, 2013, 10:04:46 PM »
Darned if I know.
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #336 on: April 18, 2013, 10:07:00 PM »
Darned if I know.
So there is only YQ to Middle East and not Europe or I need to check each flight separately?

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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #337 on: April 18, 2013, 10:09:38 PM »
SQ on LH FRA-TLV = $140 YQ
But if I add a segment IAD-FRA on UA it eliminates the YQ even on the LH segment.
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #338 on: April 18, 2013, 10:11:26 PM »
SQ on LH FRA-TLV = $140 YQ
But if I add a segment IAD-FRA on UA it eliminates the YQ even on the LH segment.
So what's the total charge for NYC-FRA-TLV on UA/LH via SQ and Ana?
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #339 on: April 18, 2013, 10:25:55 PM »
So what's the total charge for NYC-FRA-TLV on UA/LH via SQ and Ana?
via SQ its 75K + $80
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