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Color codes:
Green (7 programs): Never charges a fuel surcharge on their own or partner award tickets.
Lime (2 program): Does not charge a fuel surcharge for their own or for partner flights except for when flying on select partners.
Blue (3 programs): Charges a fuel surcharge for flying on their own metal and for flying on partners that normally collect a fuel surcharge for flying on their own metal.  Does not charge a fuel surcharge for flying on partners that normally do not collect a fuel surcharge when flying on their own metal.

Purple (1 program): Doesn't charge a fuel surcharge for their own or partner flights originating from the US.  Charges a fuel surcharge for their own and for partner flights originating outside of the US.
Teal (1 program):Charges a fuel surcharge for their own and for partner flights except for when flying on select partners.
Red (8 programs): Always charges a fuel surcharge on award tickets, even on partners that normally don't charge a fuel surcharge.
Orange (21 programs): Unknown or incomplete info.

Star:
Adria: ???
Air Canada: Charges a fuel surcharge for flying on their own metal.  Does not charge a fuel surcharge for flying on partner airlines.
Note: If you fly on these carriers you will pay a fuel surcharge: Adria, Air Canada, ANA, Asiana, Austrian, LOT Polish, Lufthansa, TAP Portugal, and THAI.
If you fly on these carriers you will not pay a fuel surcharge: Aegean, Air China, Air New Zealand, Avianca/TACA, Brussels, Copa, Croatia, EgyptAir, Ethiopian, SAS, Singapore, South African, Swiss, TAM, Turkish, United, and USAirways.
Air China: ???
Air New Zealand: ??? (Does charge on own metal, unknown about partners)
ANA: Charges a fuel surcharge for their own and for partner flights except for when flying on select partners.
Asiana: ??? (Does charge on own metal, unknown about partners)
Austrian: ???
EgyptAir: ???
Miles And More (Adria, Austrian, Brussels, Croatia, LOT Polish, Lufthansa, and Swiss): Always charges a fuel surcharge on award tickets, even on partners that normally don't charge a fuel surcharge.

Exception: No fuel surcharge for redeeming any Miles and More carrier on miles for flying on Lot Polish.
EuroBonus (Blue1, SAS): Never charges a fuel surcharge on their own or partner award tickets.
Shanghai: ???
Singapore: No longer charges for flights on their own metal but does for partner flights except for when flying on select partners.
Note: Singapore charges a surcharge for travel on most partners, with the exceptions being United and Virgin Australia.
South African: Never charges a fuel surcharge on their own or partner award tickets.
TAM: Never charges a fuel surcharge on their own or partner award tickets.
Tap Portugal ???
Thai: ???  (Does charge on own metal, unknown about partners)
Turkish: Charges on all flights including partner flights (confirmation needed about partner flights)
United: Never charges a fuel surcharge on their own or partner award tickets.

OneWorld:
AA: Does not charge a fuel surcharge for their own or for partner flights except for when flying on select partners.
Note: AA does charge a hefty fuel surcharge for redemption on partner British Airways, and a small fuel surcharge for flying on Iberia, however they do not charge it for redemption on their own metal or on other partners.
British Airways:Charges a fuel surcharge for their own and for partner flights except for when flying on select partners.
Note: BA charges a surcharge for travel on most partners, with the exceptions being Aer Lingus, Alaska, and LAN.  BA does not collect a fuel surcharge on AA flights that are wholly within the Western Hemisphere.
BA also does not collect fuel surcharges for flights within Europe.
You can transfer BA Avios to Iberia to save on fuel surcharges collected on Iberia flights.

Cathay Pacific: Always charges a fuel surcharge on award tickets, even on partners that normally don't charge a fuel surcharge.
Finnair: ???
Iberia: ???
JAL:  Always charges a fuel surcharge on award tickets, even on partners that normally don't charge a fuel surcharge.
LAN: Never charges a fuel surcharge on their own or partner award tickets.
Qantas: Charges a fuel surcharge for flying on their own metal and for flying on partners that normally collect a fuel surcharge, exception being travel on El Al metal where they don't charge fuel surcharges even though El Al does charge.  Does not charge a fuel surcharge for flying on partners that normally do not collect a fuel surcharge. 
Royal Jordanian: ???

Skyteam:
Aeroflot: ???
AeroMexico: Charges a fuel surcharge on some (possibly all) award tickets on their own metal. Unknown if they charge fuel surcharges on partner awards.
Alitalia: Always charges a fuel surcharge on award tickets, even on partners that normally don't charge a fuel surcharge.
China Southern: ???
Czech: ???
Delta: Doesn't charge a fuel surcharge for their own or partner flights originating from the US.  Charges a fuel surcharge for their own and for partner flights originating outside of the US.
Note: Delta does charge a hefty fuel surcharge for redemption on partners Malaysia and Virgin Australia, even on flight originating in the United States.
Flying Blue (AirEuropa, Air France, Kenya, KLM): Charges a fuel surcharge for flying on their own metal and for flying on partners that normally collect a fuel surcharge.  Does not charge a fuel surcharge for flying on partners that normally do not collect a fuel surcharge.
Note: This means no fuel surcharges for Delta flights.
Korean: ???
Tarom: ???
Vietnam: ???

Unaligned:
Alaska: Does not charge a fuel surcharge for their own or for partner flights except for when flying on select partners.

Note: Alaska does charge a hefty fuel surcharge for redemption on partner British Airways, however they do not charge it for redemption on their own metal or on other partners like AA, Air France/KLM, Cathay Pacific, Delta, or Qantas.
El Al: Always charges a fuel surcharge on award tickets.
Emirates: Never charges a fuel surcharge on their own or partner award tickets.
Virgin Atlantic: Always charges a fuel surcharge on award tickets, even on partners that normally don't charge a fuel surcharge.
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #380 on: January 10, 2014, 09:51:34 AM »
???

Since when does Avianca charge YQ on any partners?
Since never,  ;) I was just pointing out that now when UA is not really a option anymore (since they will go up) and other Airlines charge YQ on LH, Avianca is a good option I didn't know of such Airline until the seminar.  ;)

Is there any othe *A partners that aren't charging YQ on LH?
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #381 on: January 10, 2014, 09:53:40 AM »
US :P
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #382 on: January 12, 2014, 02:50:37 AM »
Will AC charge me YQ on A Brussels flight (or any for that matter) which is really just a code share on LH metal?

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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #383 on: January 12, 2014, 03:05:03 AM »
???

Since when does Avianca charge YQ on any partners?
Maybe he's hinting to a routing he found that would save him miles on LH.

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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #384 on: January 14, 2014, 12:03:17 PM »
Using ANA to book with AC to Europe which flights do they NOT charge YQ?
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #385 on: January 14, 2014, 01:01:02 PM »
Using ANA to book with AC to Europe which flights do they NOT charge YQ?
IIRC they will always charge YQ when booking AC.
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #386 on: January 14, 2014, 01:02:50 PM »
I thought there were some select routes with AC that ANA did NOT charge YQ.
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #387 on: January 14, 2014, 01:07:22 PM »
Maybe.
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #388 on: January 14, 2014, 01:14:12 PM »
I'm looking at AC to FRA using ANA.
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #389 on: January 14, 2014, 01:53:23 PM »
Maybe.
Can you try to be slightly more vague?

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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #390 on: January 14, 2014, 02:20:53 PM »
Can you try to be slightly more vague?
I seriously have no idea, from what I knew, ANA charges YQ on AC, I never heard that there is a difference on which routing so I replied  that they charge YQ, so when he argued that there is some routes that they don't charge YQ I simply replied MAYBE = I don't know.
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #391 on: January 14, 2014, 10:42:59 PM »
I seriously have no idea, from what I knew, ANA charges YQ on AC, I never heard that there is a difference on which routing so I replied  that they charge YQ, so when he argued that there is some routes that they don't charge YQ I simply replied MAYBE = I don't know.
np, I thought you were alluding to a secret you knew, and that it was very HelpMe of you to do.

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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #392 on: January 15, 2014, 02:02:37 AM »
IIRC they will always charge YQ when booking AC.
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US-Canada routes they don't charge,

But I see now they do charge YQ on YUL-YYZ to LHR, which is something new since a few months ago.
I remember checking last summer for a relative in Montreal YUL-LHR on AC and it definitely didn't have YQ on it.


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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #393 on: January 15, 2014, 09:46:09 AM »
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US-Canada routes they don't charge,

But I see now they do charge YQ on YUL-YYZ to LHR, which is something new since a few months ago.
I remember checking last summer for a relative in Montreal YUL-LHR on AC and it definitely didn't have YQ on it.
Yeah US-Canada routes I knew they don't charge, I was talking internationally, and even internationally, I called back  :)
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #394 on: January 15, 2014, 02:56:16 PM »
So is there YQ using ANA to book AC from YYZ to FRA? Thanx
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #395 on: January 15, 2014, 04:35:32 PM »
So is there YQ using ANA to book AC from YYZ to FRA? Thanx

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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #396 on: January 15, 2014, 04:36:31 PM »
They're getting smart :(
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #397 on: January 15, 2014, 04:56:50 PM »
Wasn't there always YQ when ANA on airlines other than UA/US?
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #398 on: January 15, 2014, 06:17:34 PM »
Wasn't there always YQ when ANA on airlines other than UA/US?
I thought the same until a few days ago, see up thread. Looks like they didn't charge on some AC routes to Europe, until recently.
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #399 on: January 15, 2014, 06:34:13 PM »
Ah, too bad.

I wonder what other airlines they don't charge YQ? Anyone know?
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