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Green (7 programs): Never charges a fuel surcharge on their own or partner award tickets.
Lime (2 program): Does not charge a fuel surcharge for their own or for partner flights except for when flying on select partners.
Blue (3 programs): Charges a fuel surcharge for flying on their own metal and for flying on partners that normally collect a fuel surcharge for flying on their own metal.  Does not charge a fuel surcharge for flying on partners that normally do not collect a fuel surcharge when flying on their own metal.

Purple (1 program): Doesn't charge a fuel surcharge for their own or partner flights originating from the US.  Charges a fuel surcharge for their own and for partner flights originating outside of the US.
Teal (1 program):Charges a fuel surcharge for their own and for partner flights except for when flying on select partners.
Red (8 programs): Always charges a fuel surcharge on award tickets, even on partners that normally don't charge a fuel surcharge.
Orange (21 programs): Unknown or incomplete info.

Star:
Adria: ???
Air Canada: Charges a fuel surcharge for flying on their own metal.  Does not charge a fuel surcharge for flying on partner airlines.
Note: If you fly on these carriers you will pay a fuel surcharge: Adria, Air Canada, ANA, Asiana, Austrian, LOT Polish, Lufthansa, TAP Portugal, and THAI.
If you fly on these carriers you will not pay a fuel surcharge: Aegean, Air China, Air New Zealand, Avianca/TACA, Brussels, Copa, Croatia, EgyptAir, Ethiopian, SAS, Singapore, South African, Swiss, TAM, Turkish, United, and USAirways.
Air China: ???
Air New Zealand: ??? (Does charge on own metal, unknown about partners)
ANA: Charges a fuel surcharge for their own and for partner flights except for when flying on select partners.
Asiana: ??? (Does charge on own metal, unknown about partners)
Austrian: ???
EgyptAir: ???
Miles And More (Adria, Austrian, Brussels, Croatia, LOT Polish, Lufthansa, and Swiss): Always charges a fuel surcharge on award tickets, even on partners that normally don't charge a fuel surcharge.

Exception: No fuel surcharge for redeeming any Miles and More carrier on miles for flying on Lot Polish.
EuroBonus (Blue1, SAS): Never charges a fuel surcharge on their own or partner award tickets.
Shanghai: ???
Singapore: No longer charges for flights on their own metal but does for partner flights except for when flying on select partners.
Note: Singapore charges a surcharge for travel on most partners, with the exceptions being United and Virgin Australia.
South African: Never charges a fuel surcharge on their own or partner award tickets.
TAM: Never charges a fuel surcharge on their own or partner award tickets.
Tap Portugal ???
Thai: ???  (Does charge on own metal, unknown about partners)
Turkish: Charges on all flights including partner flights (confirmation needed about partner flights)
United: Never charges a fuel surcharge on their own or partner award tickets.

OneWorld:
AA: Does not charge a fuel surcharge for their own or for partner flights except for when flying on select partners.
Note: AA does charge a hefty fuel surcharge for redemption on partner British Airways, and a small fuel surcharge for flying on Iberia, however they do not charge it for redemption on their own metal or on other partners.
British Airways:Charges a fuel surcharge for their own and for partner flights except for when flying on select partners.
Note: BA charges a surcharge for travel on most partners, with the exceptions being Aer Lingus, Alaska, and LAN.  BA does not collect a fuel surcharge on AA flights that are wholly within the Western Hemisphere.
BA also does not collect fuel surcharges for flights within Europe.
You can transfer BA Avios to Iberia to save on fuel surcharges collected on Iberia flights.

Cathay Pacific: Always charges a fuel surcharge on award tickets, even on partners that normally don't charge a fuel surcharge.
Finnair: ???
Iberia: ???
JAL:  Always charges a fuel surcharge on award tickets, even on partners that normally don't charge a fuel surcharge.
LAN: Never charges a fuel surcharge on their own or partner award tickets.
Qantas: Charges a fuel surcharge for flying on their own metal and for flying on partners that normally collect a fuel surcharge, exception being travel on El Al metal where they don't charge fuel surcharges even though El Al does charge.  Does not charge a fuel surcharge for flying on partners that normally do not collect a fuel surcharge. 
Royal Jordanian: ???

Skyteam:
Aeroflot: ???
AeroMexico: Charges a fuel surcharge on some (possibly all) award tickets on their own metal. Unknown if they charge fuel surcharges on partner awards.
Alitalia: Always charges a fuel surcharge on award tickets, even on partners that normally don't charge a fuel surcharge.
China Southern: ???
Czech: ???
Delta: Doesn't charge a fuel surcharge for their own or partner flights originating from the US.  Charges a fuel surcharge for their own and for partner flights originating outside of the US.
Note: Delta does charge a hefty fuel surcharge for redemption on partners Malaysia and Virgin Australia, even on flight originating in the United States.
Flying Blue (AirEuropa, Air France, Kenya, KLM): Charges a fuel surcharge for flying on their own metal and for flying on partners that normally collect a fuel surcharge.  Does not charge a fuel surcharge for flying on partners that normally do not collect a fuel surcharge.
Note: This means no fuel surcharges for Delta flights.
Korean: ???
Tarom: ???
Vietnam: ???

Unaligned:
Alaska: Does not charge a fuel surcharge for their own or for partner flights except for when flying on select partners.

Note: Alaska does charge a hefty fuel surcharge for redemption on partner British Airways, however they do not charge it for redemption on their own metal or on other partners like AA, Air France/KLM, Cathay Pacific, Delta, or Qantas.
El Al: Always charges a fuel surcharge on award tickets.
Emirates: Never charges a fuel surcharge on their own or partner award tickets.
Virgin Atlantic: Always charges a fuel surcharge on award tickets, even on partners that normally don't charge a fuel surcharge.
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #400 on: January 16, 2014, 01:09:11 PM »
I heard that on SELECT routes ANA doesn't charge YQ when using AC. That's what I asked earlier in the thread. Are there any other partners besides UA and US that ANA doesn't slam with YQ?
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #401 on: February 12, 2014, 10:41:20 PM »
About how much would be the YQ on LH From Europe to Asia in business class?
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #402 on: February 13, 2014, 01:22:46 AM »
$524.00
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #403 on: February 13, 2014, 01:37:31 AM »
$524.00
How much would be all other fees? It doesn't let me go to final check out because I have no miles in my account.
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #404 on: February 17, 2014, 06:54:19 PM »
Does JAL charge YQ on Emirets?
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #405 on: February 17, 2014, 06:55:15 PM »

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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #406 on: February 17, 2014, 06:57:01 PM »
Who doesn't, besides Alaska? (with such low mileage rates)
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #407 on: February 17, 2014, 07:02:41 PM »
Who doesn't, besides Alaska? (with such low mileage rates)
I think all. Check QF.
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #408 on: February 17, 2014, 07:09:13 PM »
Who doesn't, besides Alaska? (with such low mileage rates)
AS is your best option ex-USA, besides JFK-MXP which would make sense to book with EK themselves.

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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #410 on: February 17, 2014, 07:35:46 PM »
You sure?
I think I read (Boarding area) that Alaska and JAL don't charge.

Though not sure, that's why I asked.
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #411 on: February 17, 2014, 08:09:27 PM »
http://milevalue.com/best-program-redeem-miles-emirates-first-class/

According to him they don't charge, I guess ill wait until tomorrow.
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #412 on: February 17, 2014, 08:12:17 PM »
AS is your best option ex-USA, besides JFK-MXP which would make sense to book with EK themselves.
How often do you see EK F availability on AS for the JFK-MXP route?
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #413 on: February 17, 2014, 08:19:45 PM »
AS is your best option ex-USA, besides JFK-MXP which would make sense to book with EK themselves.
Thanks meshugener for quoting Meir, missed his post.

I didn't bother checking EK themselves because USA-DXB they charge a nasty amount of miles + YQ. I am actually looking JFK-MXP.

meshugener, great availability, at least on my dates (2 weeks from now)

Also JAL had availability in F where AS didn't.
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #414 on: February 17, 2014, 08:33:41 PM »
It seems that JAL doesn't charge YQ if the partner does not charge YQ on revenue fares. So, ITA claims that they don't. Now 100K RT in F with no YQ is a great price. (sounds like it takes 7 days for SPG to transfer :()
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #415 on: February 17, 2014, 08:53:03 PM »
It seems that JAL doesn't charge YQ if the partner does not charge YQ on revenue fares. So, ITA claims that they don't. Now 100K RT in F with no YQ is a great price. (sounds like it takes 7 days for SPG to transfer :()
Thanks meshugener for quoting Meir, missed his post.

I didn't bother checking EK themselves because USA-DXB they charge a nasty amount of miles + YQ. I am actually looking JFK-MXP.

meshugener, great availability, at least on my dates (2 weeks from now)

Also JAL had availability in F where AS didn't.
But EK DOES charge YQ.

Funny, most times you can find availability on EK an JAL but not on AS, even ex-USA.
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #416 on: February 17, 2014, 10:11:06 PM »
You sure?
Thought they started charging YQ.
How often do you see EK F availability on AS for the JFK-MXP route?
Where do you see that he wanted EK F.

He was asking in general.

But EK DOES charge YQ.
But 90k + $400 YQ (EK J) is better than $150k AS.

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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #417 on: February 17, 2014, 10:13:49 PM »
Its $1000 in YQ.
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #418 on: February 17, 2014, 10:16:59 PM »
Its $1000 in YQ.
Which route and class of service?

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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #419 on: February 17, 2014, 10:22:32 PM »
Which route and class of service?
JFK-MXP - J.
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