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Color codes:
Green (7 programs): Never charges a fuel surcharge on their own or partner award tickets.
Lime (2 program): Does not charge a fuel surcharge for their own or for partner flights except for when flying on select partners.
Blue (3 programs): Charges a fuel surcharge for flying on their own metal and for flying on partners that normally collect a fuel surcharge for flying on their own metal.  Does not charge a fuel surcharge for flying on partners that normally do not collect a fuel surcharge when flying on their own metal.

Purple (1 program): Doesn't charge a fuel surcharge for their own or partner flights originating from the US.  Charges a fuel surcharge for their own and for partner flights originating outside of the US.
Teal (1 program):Charges a fuel surcharge for their own and for partner flights except for when flying on select partners.
Red (8 programs): Always charges a fuel surcharge on award tickets, even on partners that normally don't charge a fuel surcharge.
Orange (21 programs): Unknown or incomplete info.

Star:
Adria: ???
Air Canada: Charges a fuel surcharge for flying on their own metal.  Does not charge a fuel surcharge for flying on partner airlines.
Note: If you fly on these carriers you will pay a fuel surcharge: Adria, Air Canada, ANA, Asiana, Austrian, LOT Polish, Lufthansa, TAP Portugal, and THAI.
If you fly on these carriers you will not pay a fuel surcharge: Aegean, Air China, Air New Zealand, Avianca/TACA, Brussels, Copa, Croatia, EgyptAir, Ethiopian, SAS, Singapore, South African, Swiss, TAM, Turkish, United, and USAirways.
Air China: ???
Air New Zealand: ??? (Does charge on own metal, unknown about partners)
ANA: Charges a fuel surcharge for their own and for partner flights except for when flying on select partners.
Asiana: ??? (Does charge on own metal, unknown about partners)
Austrian: ???
EgyptAir: ???
Miles And More (Adria, Austrian, Brussels, Croatia, LOT Polish, Lufthansa, and Swiss): Always charges a fuel surcharge on award tickets, even on partners that normally don't charge a fuel surcharge.

Exception: No fuel surcharge for redeeming any Miles and More carrier on miles for flying on Lot Polish.
EuroBonus (Blue1, SAS): Never charges a fuel surcharge on their own or partner award tickets.
Shanghai: ???
Singapore: No longer charges for flights on their own metal but does for partner flights except for when flying on select partners.
Note: Singapore charges a surcharge for travel on most partners, with the exceptions being United and Virgin Australia.
South African: Never charges a fuel surcharge on their own or partner award tickets.
TAM: Never charges a fuel surcharge on their own or partner award tickets.
Tap Portugal ???
Thai: ???  (Does charge on own metal, unknown about partners)
Turkish: Charges on all flights including partner flights (confirmation needed about partner flights)
United: Never charges a fuel surcharge on their own or partner award tickets.

OneWorld:
AA: Does not charge a fuel surcharge for their own or for partner flights except for when flying on select partners.
Note: AA does charge a hefty fuel surcharge for redemption on partner British Airways, and a small fuel surcharge for flying on Iberia, however they do not charge it for redemption on their own metal or on other partners.
British Airways:Charges a fuel surcharge for their own and for partner flights except for when flying on select partners.
Note: BA charges a surcharge for travel on most partners, with the exceptions being Aer Lingus, Alaska, and LAN.  BA does not collect a fuel surcharge on AA flights that are wholly within the Western Hemisphere.
BA also does not collect fuel surcharges for flights within Europe.
You can transfer BA Avios to Iberia to save on fuel surcharges collected on Iberia flights.

Cathay Pacific: Always charges a fuel surcharge on award tickets, even on partners that normally don't charge a fuel surcharge.
Finnair: ???
Iberia: ???
JAL:  Always charges a fuel surcharge on award tickets, even on partners that normally don't charge a fuel surcharge.
LAN: Never charges a fuel surcharge on their own or partner award tickets.
Qantas: Charges a fuel surcharge for flying on their own metal and for flying on partners that normally collect a fuel surcharge, exception being travel on El Al metal where they don't charge fuel surcharges even though El Al does charge.  Does not charge a fuel surcharge for flying on partners that normally do not collect a fuel surcharge. 
Royal Jordanian: ???

Skyteam:
Aeroflot: ???
AeroMexico: Charges a fuel surcharge on some (possibly all) award tickets on their own metal. Unknown if they charge fuel surcharges on partner awards.
Alitalia: Always charges a fuel surcharge on award tickets, even on partners that normally don't charge a fuel surcharge.
China Southern: ???
Czech: ???
Delta: Doesn't charge a fuel surcharge for their own or partner flights originating from the US.  Charges a fuel surcharge for their own and for partner flights originating outside of the US.
Note: Delta does charge a hefty fuel surcharge for redemption on partners Malaysia and Virgin Australia, even on flight originating in the United States.
Flying Blue (AirEuropa, Air France, Kenya, KLM): Charges a fuel surcharge for flying on their own metal and for flying on partners that normally collect a fuel surcharge.  Does not charge a fuel surcharge for flying on partners that normally do not collect a fuel surcharge.
Note: This means no fuel surcharges for Delta flights.
Korean: ???
Tarom: ???
Vietnam: ???

Unaligned:
Alaska: Does not charge a fuel surcharge for their own or for partner flights except for when flying on select partners.

Note: Alaska does charge a hefty fuel surcharge for redemption on partner British Airways, however they do not charge it for redemption on their own metal or on other partners like AA, Air France/KLM, Cathay Pacific, Delta, or Qantas.
El Al: Always charges a fuel surcharge on award tickets.
Emirates: Never charges a fuel surcharge on their own or partner award tickets.
Virgin Atlantic: Always charges a fuel surcharge on award tickets, even on partners that normally don't charge a fuel surcharge.
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #441 on: April 06, 2014, 05:22:49 PM »
No
Wouldn't then Delta be a better value for that route?
Don't remember off hand how many skypesos needed, but definitely less than 59k ow.

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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #442 on: April 06, 2014, 07:26:35 PM »
Wouldn't then Delta be a better value for that route?
Don't remember off hand how many skypesos needed, but definitely less than 59k ow.
DL you need to book RT.

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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #443 on: April 06, 2014, 09:05:56 PM »
DL is still a better value. Can fly to SYD RT in Biz for 160K.
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #444 on: April 06, 2014, 09:14:51 PM »
DL is still a better value. Can fly to SYD RT in Biz for 160K.
Of course DL is a better value if you are flying RT.

We were discussing OW.

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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #445 on: April 29, 2014, 01:40:41 AM »
How can I avoid YQ on an AF flight one way (so no delta)?

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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #446 on: April 29, 2014, 07:14:00 AM »
How can I avoid YQ on an AF flight one way (so no delta)?
You can't, afaik.

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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #447 on: April 29, 2014, 07:42:14 AM »
How can I avoid YQ on an AF flight one way (so no delta)?
Alaska.


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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #448 on: April 29, 2014, 09:19:33 AM »
Alaska.


BTW do they show DL and AF availability?
You can say what you think when you think what you say.

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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #449 on: April 29, 2014, 09:19:57 AM »
BTW do they show DL and AF availability?
Yes


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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #450 on: April 29, 2014, 02:42:43 PM »
Yes
They don't show the same availability online as air france does I guess I will call Alaska and see if they can look over the phone

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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #451 on: April 29, 2014, 02:46:42 PM »
You can only book AF saver award with partners.
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #452 on: May 04, 2014, 12:17:17 PM »
Who can I book Aer Lingus with?

Is there a way to find availability online?

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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #453 on: May 04, 2014, 12:19:29 PM »
Who can I book Aer Lingus with?

Is there a way to find availability online?
BA.

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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #454 on: May 04, 2014, 12:25:25 PM »
BA.

You sure BA shows online or only if you call?

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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #455 on: May 04, 2014, 12:55:31 PM »
You sure BA shows online or only if you call?
I don't know for sure, but I never saw BA showing availability for Aer Lingus, they'll always route you through London on BA.

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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #456 on: May 04, 2014, 01:38:57 PM »
I don't know for sure, but I never saw BA showing availability for Aer Lingus, they'll always route you through London on BA.

is there any site to check availability and then I will call BA . their hold time is ridiculous

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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #457 on: May 04, 2014, 02:11:12 PM »
Searche Qantas for Aer Lingus availability.
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #458 on: May 04, 2014, 02:46:22 PM »
Searche Qantas for Aer Lingus availability.

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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #459 on: May 04, 2014, 02:48:31 PM »
What can I expect the YQ fees to be ORD-IST-TLV on TK in business? Using ANA miles
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