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Green (7 programs): Never charges a fuel surcharge on their own or partner award tickets.
Lime (2 program): Does not charge a fuel surcharge for their own or for partner flights except for when flying on select partners.
Blue (3 programs): Charges a fuel surcharge for flying on their own metal and for flying on partners that normally collect a fuel surcharge for flying on their own metal.  Does not charge a fuel surcharge for flying on partners that normally do not collect a fuel surcharge when flying on their own metal.

Purple (1 program): Doesn't charge a fuel surcharge for their own or partner flights originating from the US.  Charges a fuel surcharge for their own and for partner flights originating outside of the US.
Teal (1 program):Charges a fuel surcharge for their own and for partner flights except for when flying on select partners.
Red (8 programs): Always charges a fuel surcharge on award tickets, even on partners that normally don't charge a fuel surcharge.
Orange (21 programs): Unknown or incomplete info.

Star:
Adria: ???
Air Canada: Charges a fuel surcharge for flying on their own metal.  Does not charge a fuel surcharge for flying on partner airlines.
Note: If you fly on these carriers you will pay a fuel surcharge: Adria, Air Canada, ANA, Asiana, Austrian, LOT Polish, Lufthansa, TAP Portugal, and THAI.
If you fly on these carriers you will not pay a fuel surcharge: Aegean, Air China, Air New Zealand, Avianca/TACA, Brussels, Copa, Croatia, EgyptAir, Ethiopian, SAS, Singapore, South African, Swiss, TAM, Turkish, United, and USAirways.
Air China: ???
Air New Zealand: ??? (Does charge on own metal, unknown about partners)
ANA: Charges a fuel surcharge for their own and for partner flights except for when flying on select partners.
Asiana: ??? (Does charge on own metal, unknown about partners)
Austrian: ???
EgyptAir: ???
Miles And More (Adria, Austrian, Brussels, Croatia, LOT Polish, Lufthansa, and Swiss): Always charges a fuel surcharge on award tickets, even on partners that normally don't charge a fuel surcharge.

Exception: No fuel surcharge for redeeming any Miles and More carrier on miles for flying on Lot Polish.
EuroBonus (Blue1, SAS): Never charges a fuel surcharge on their own or partner award tickets.
Shanghai: ???
Singapore: No longer charges for flights on their own metal but does for partner flights except for when flying on select partners.
Note: Singapore charges a surcharge for travel on most partners, with the exceptions being United and Virgin Australia.
South African: Never charges a fuel surcharge on their own or partner award tickets.
TAM: Never charges a fuel surcharge on their own or partner award tickets.
Tap Portugal ???
Thai: ???  (Does charge on own metal, unknown about partners)
Turkish: Charges on all flights including partner flights (confirmation needed about partner flights)
United: Never charges a fuel surcharge on their own or partner award tickets.

OneWorld:
AA: Does not charge a fuel surcharge for their own or for partner flights except for when flying on select partners.
Note: AA does charge a hefty fuel surcharge for redemption on partner British Airways, and a small fuel surcharge for flying on Iberia, however they do not charge it for redemption on their own metal or on other partners.
British Airways:Charges a fuel surcharge for their own and for partner flights except for when flying on select partners.
Note: BA charges a surcharge for travel on most partners, with the exceptions being Aer Lingus, Alaska, and LAN.  BA does not collect a fuel surcharge on AA flights that are wholly within the Western Hemisphere.
BA also does not collect fuel surcharges for flights within Europe.
You can transfer BA Avios to Iberia to save on fuel surcharges collected on Iberia flights.

Cathay Pacific: Always charges a fuel surcharge on award tickets, even on partners that normally don't charge a fuel surcharge.
Finnair: ???
Iberia: ???
JAL:  Always charges a fuel surcharge on award tickets, even on partners that normally don't charge a fuel surcharge.
LAN: Never charges a fuel surcharge on their own or partner award tickets.
Qantas: Charges a fuel surcharge for flying on their own metal and for flying on partners that normally collect a fuel surcharge, exception being travel on El Al metal where they don't charge fuel surcharges even though El Al does charge.  Does not charge a fuel surcharge for flying on partners that normally do not collect a fuel surcharge. 
Royal Jordanian: ???

Skyteam:
Aeroflot: ???
AeroMexico: Charges a fuel surcharge on some (possibly all) award tickets on their own metal. Unknown if they charge fuel surcharges on partner awards.
Alitalia: Always charges a fuel surcharge on award tickets, even on partners that normally don't charge a fuel surcharge.
China Southern: ???
Czech: ???
Delta: Doesn't charge a fuel surcharge for their own or partner flights originating from the US.  Charges a fuel surcharge for their own and for partner flights originating outside of the US.
Note: Delta does charge a hefty fuel surcharge for redemption on partners Malaysia and Virgin Australia, even on flight originating in the United States.
Flying Blue (AirEuropa, Air France, Kenya, KLM): Charges a fuel surcharge for flying on their own metal and for flying on partners that normally collect a fuel surcharge.  Does not charge a fuel surcharge for flying on partners that normally do not collect a fuel surcharge.
Note: This means no fuel surcharges for Delta flights.
Korean: ???
Tarom: ???
Vietnam: ???

Unaligned:
Alaska: Does not charge a fuel surcharge for their own or for partner flights except for when flying on select partners.

Note: Alaska does charge a hefty fuel surcharge for redemption on partner British Airways, however they do not charge it for redemption on their own metal or on other partners like AA, Air France/KLM, Cathay Pacific, Delta, or Qantas.
El Al: Always charges a fuel surcharge on award tickets.
Emirates: Never charges a fuel surcharge on their own or partner award tickets.
Virgin Atlantic: Always charges a fuel surcharge on award tickets, even on partners that normally don't charge a fuel surcharge.
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #60 on: September 07, 2010, 03:18:59 PM »
The interesting thing is that the 4 airlines we've found so far that don't have the surcharge (CO,UA,US,VS) all come up with "unable to calculate taxes/fees".
All the others come up with the price and there is a fuel surcharge.
Are you sure?
I thought I remembered for either CO, US or both that when i was researching my TLV itin they showed the fees. I might be wrong though. Keep in mind they never show fees if you dont have enough miles in the account for the itin you are looking up.

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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #61 on: September 07, 2010, 03:20:51 PM »
Croatia Airlines (OU) there is a surcharge.

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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #62 on: September 07, 2010, 03:21:23 PM »
The interesting thing is that the 4 airlines we've found so far that don't have the surcharge (CO,UA,US,VS) all come up with "unable to calculate taxes/fees".
All the others come up with the price and there is a fuel surcharge.
I guess we need a new category for ANA as it seems like those are the only 4 which have no fuel surcharge for now.
That leaves just Qantas in the category of only charging for airlines that normally charge a fuel surcharge.
Do they really belong there or are they too "pick and choose" like ANA?
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #63 on: September 07, 2010, 03:23:26 PM »
That leaves just Qantas in the category of only charging for airlines that normally charge a fuel surcharge.
Do they really belong there or are they too "pick and choose" like ANA?
I will bow out on that one and let my buddy from down under answer that one  ;)

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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #64 on: September 07, 2010, 03:24:40 PM »
Are you sure?
I thought I remembered for either CO, US or both that when i was researching my TLV itin they showed the fees. I might be wrong though. Keep in mind they never show fees if you dont have enough miles in the account for the itin you are looking up.
You saw VS and I just checked US, PHL-TLV. UA, LAX-MEL. CO, EWR-LHR and all of them just showed the stars where the $ amount is supposed to be and at the bottom it said, unable to calculate fees.

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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #65 on: September 07, 2010, 03:25:03 PM »
Are you sure?
I thought I remembered for either CO, US or both that when i was researching my TLV itin they showed the fees. I might be wrong though. Keep in mind they never show fees if you dont have enough miles in the account for the itin you are looking up.

By the way, are we sure that ANA doesn't charge a fuel surcharge on UA?

ANA's chart is great, but this whole fuel surcharge thing is a headache!
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #66 on: September 07, 2010, 03:26:12 PM »
I guess we need a new category for ANA as it seems like those are the only 4 which have no fuel surcharge for now.
That leaves just Qantas in the category of only charging for airlines that normally charge a fuel surcharge.
Do they really belong there or are they too "pick and choose" like ANA?
One alliance at a time, please!
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #67 on: September 07, 2010, 03:27:59 PM »
One alliance at a time, please!
I don't have a Sony Z...
Lol, OK, what else should we check for ANA?
SQ? SA?
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #68 on: September 07, 2010, 03:28:26 PM »
By the way, are we sure that ANA doesn't charge a fuel surcharge on UA?

ANA's chart is great, but this whole fuel surcharge thing is a headache!
I think that was based on them not charging for airlines that don't charge...

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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #69 on: September 07, 2010, 03:29:42 PM »
I think that was based on them not charging for airlines that don't charge...

Darn...back to the drawing board!
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #70 on: September 07, 2010, 03:30:37 PM »
Singapore (SQ) does have a surcharge.

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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #71 on: September 07, 2010, 03:32:02 PM »
Darn...back to the drawing board!
Mike, want to giver ANA a call? This time fly anywhere UA flies..

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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #72 on: September 07, 2010, 03:35:49 PM »
South African (SA), there is a surcharge.

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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #73 on: September 07, 2010, 03:36:07 PM »
Mike, want to giver ANA a call?
And you thought it would be a good idea to have extra ANA miles lying around  ;D
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #74 on: September 07, 2010, 03:36:32 PM »
South African (SA), there is a surcharge.
OK, they're officially out of the "blue" category!
Now what to put them into??
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #75 on: September 07, 2010, 03:41:06 PM »
For Malaysian Airlines (MH) which also aren't part of the *A, there is a surcharge.

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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #76 on: September 07, 2010, 03:52:50 PM »
And you thought it would be a good idea to have extra ANA miles lying around  ;D
I think Aussie is just trying to lay it on thick so that I am pressured into just giving him all my personal identifying info so he can "call ANA" to inquire, and then he is off to LHR...

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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #77 on: September 07, 2010, 03:59:18 PM »
I think Aussie is just trying to lay it on thick so that I am pressured into just giving him all my personal identifying info so he can "call ANA" to inquire, and then he is off to LHR...
Lol!
While youre at it, find out about Shenzhen Airlines, cant get it to work online. Try NNG-CGO..

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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #78 on: September 07, 2010, 04:00:16 PM »
Thai Airways (TG) has a surcharge.

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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #79 on: September 07, 2010, 04:01:30 PM »
and then he is off to LHR...
Maybe he can be the shliach to the LHR Virgin Clubhouse?

I've updated the original post with the new info so we now have a whopping 8 categories of airlines!
I'm assuming ANA doesn't charge a surcharge on UA but if anyone finds out otherwise please post.
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