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Green (7 programs): Never charges a fuel surcharge on their own or partner award tickets.
Lime (2 program): Does not charge a fuel surcharge for their own or for partner flights except for when flying on select partners.
Blue (3 programs): Charges a fuel surcharge for flying on their own metal and for flying on partners that normally collect a fuel surcharge for flying on their own metal.  Does not charge a fuel surcharge for flying on partners that normally do not collect a fuel surcharge when flying on their own metal.

Purple (1 program): Doesn't charge a fuel surcharge for their own or partner flights originating from the US.  Charges a fuel surcharge for their own and for partner flights originating outside of the US.
Teal (1 program):Charges a fuel surcharge for their own and for partner flights except for when flying on select partners.
Red (8 programs): Always charges a fuel surcharge on award tickets, even on partners that normally don't charge a fuel surcharge.
Orange (21 programs): Unknown or incomplete info.

Star:
Adria: ???
Air Canada: Charges a fuel surcharge for flying on their own metal.  Does not charge a fuel surcharge for flying on partner airlines.
Note: If you fly on these carriers you will pay a fuel surcharge: Adria, Air Canada, ANA, Asiana, Austrian, LOT Polish, Lufthansa, TAP Portugal, and THAI.
If you fly on these carriers you will not pay a fuel surcharge: Aegean, Air China, Air New Zealand, Avianca/TACA, Brussels, Copa, Croatia, EgyptAir, Ethiopian, SAS, Singapore, South African, Swiss, TAM, Turkish, United, and USAirways.
Air China: ???
Air New Zealand: ??? (Does charge on own metal, unknown about partners)
ANA: Charges a fuel surcharge for their own and for partner flights except for when flying on select partners.
Asiana: ??? (Does charge on own metal, unknown about partners)
Austrian: ???
EgyptAir: ???
Miles And More (Adria, Austrian, Brussels, Croatia, LOT Polish, Lufthansa, and Swiss): Always charges a fuel surcharge on award tickets, even on partners that normally don't charge a fuel surcharge.

Exception: No fuel surcharge for redeeming any Miles and More carrier on miles for flying on Lot Polish.
EuroBonus (Blue1, SAS): Never charges a fuel surcharge on their own or partner award tickets.
Shanghai: ???
Singapore: No longer charges for flights on their own metal but does for partner flights except for when flying on select partners.
Note: Singapore charges a surcharge for travel on most partners, with the exceptions being United and Virgin Australia.
South African: Never charges a fuel surcharge on their own or partner award tickets.
TAM: Never charges a fuel surcharge on their own or partner award tickets.
Tap Portugal ???
Thai: ???  (Does charge on own metal, unknown about partners)
Turkish: Charges on all flights including partner flights (confirmation needed about partner flights)
United: Never charges a fuel surcharge on their own or partner award tickets.

OneWorld:
AA: Does not charge a fuel surcharge for their own or for partner flights except for when flying on select partners.
Note: AA does charge a hefty fuel surcharge for redemption on partner British Airways, and a small fuel surcharge for flying on Iberia, however they do not charge it for redemption on their own metal or on other partners.
British Airways:Charges a fuel surcharge for their own and for partner flights except for when flying on select partners.
Note: BA charges a surcharge for travel on most partners, with the exceptions being Aer Lingus, Alaska, and LAN.  BA does not collect a fuel surcharge on AA flights that are wholly within the Western Hemisphere.
BA also does not collect fuel surcharges for flights within Europe.
You can transfer BA Avios to Iberia to save on fuel surcharges collected on Iberia flights.

Cathay Pacific: Always charges a fuel surcharge on award tickets, even on partners that normally don't charge a fuel surcharge.
Finnair: ???
Iberia: ???
JAL:  Always charges a fuel surcharge on award tickets, even on partners that normally don't charge a fuel surcharge.
LAN: Never charges a fuel surcharge on their own or partner award tickets.
Qantas: Charges a fuel surcharge for flying on their own metal and for flying on partners that normally collect a fuel surcharge, exception being travel on El Al metal where they don't charge fuel surcharges even though El Al does charge.  Does not charge a fuel surcharge for flying on partners that normally do not collect a fuel surcharge. 
Royal Jordanian: ???

Skyteam:
Aeroflot: ???
AeroMexico: Charges a fuel surcharge on some (possibly all) award tickets on their own metal. Unknown if they charge fuel surcharges on partner awards.
Alitalia: Always charges a fuel surcharge on award tickets, even on partners that normally don't charge a fuel surcharge.
China Southern: ???
Czech: ???
Delta: Doesn't charge a fuel surcharge for their own or partner flights originating from the US.  Charges a fuel surcharge for their own and for partner flights originating outside of the US.
Note: Delta does charge a hefty fuel surcharge for redemption on partners Malaysia and Virgin Australia, even on flight originating in the United States.
Flying Blue (AirEuropa, Air France, Kenya, KLM): Charges a fuel surcharge for flying on their own metal and for flying on partners that normally collect a fuel surcharge.  Does not charge a fuel surcharge for flying on partners that normally do not collect a fuel surcharge.
Note: This means no fuel surcharges for Delta flights.
Korean: ???
Tarom: ???
Vietnam: ???

Unaligned:
Alaska: Does not charge a fuel surcharge for their own or for partner flights except for when flying on select partners.

Note: Alaska does charge a hefty fuel surcharge for redemption on partner British Airways, however they do not charge it for redemption on their own metal or on other partners like AA, Air France/KLM, Cathay Pacific, Delta, or Qantas.
El Al: Always charges a fuel surcharge on award tickets.
Emirates: Never charges a fuel surcharge on their own or partner award tickets.
Virgin Atlantic: Always charges a fuel surcharge on award tickets, even on partners that normally don't charge a fuel surcharge.
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #340 on: April 18, 2013, 10:45:44 PM »
What date did you check?
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« Reply #341 on: April 19, 2013, 01:10:23 AM »
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #342 on: May 05, 2013, 01:47:08 PM »
So what's the conclusion, does ANA charge YQ on UA, AC and/or US?
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #343 on: May 05, 2013, 03:01:07 PM »
So what's the conclusion, does ANA charge YQ on UA, AC and/or US?
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« Reply #344 on: May 05, 2013, 03:21:41 PM »
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #345 on: May 05, 2013, 04:53:32 PM »

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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #346 on: May 05, 2013, 08:30:41 PM »
I'm not sure what you're saying.

Can anyone confirm there is still no YQ on US/UA/AC?

Direct answers are appreciated. Unclear answers, and links to posts which do not have clear, current answers, are not.
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #347 on: May 05, 2013, 09:26:31 PM »
I'm not sure what you're saying.

Can anyone confirm there is still no YQ on US/UA/AC?

Direct answers are appreciated. Unclear answers, and links to posts which do not have clear, current answers, are not.
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #348 on: June 16, 2013, 03:17:20 AM »
Anyone ever tried redeeming LANPASS on BA?
If yes, how much was the YQ?
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #349 on: June 16, 2013, 03:29:11 AM »
Anyone ever tried redeeming LANPASS on BA?
If yes, how much was the YQ?
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #350 on: June 16, 2013, 09:53:46 AM »
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Thanks.
How does it look when flying into LHR? How much is the approximate total in extra $$?
 
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #351 on: June 16, 2013, 04:58:55 PM »
PUTPAC and let us know.
You'd be wise to book the return trip on Open Skies from ORY if possible to avoid the UK APD.
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #352 on: June 16, 2013, 05:16:57 PM »
PUTPAC and let us know.
You'd be wise to book the return trip on Open Skies from ORY if possible to avoid the UK APD.
One of the rules of the LANPASS program is: No redemption on partner airlines from Friday 5pm to Monday 9am.
Ever heard of such a funny rule?

Otherwise, its a neat FF program.
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #353 on: June 16, 2013, 05:28:00 PM »
One of the rules of the LANPASS program is: No redemption on partner airlines from Friday 5pm to Monday 9am.
Ever heard of such a funny rule?

Otherwise, its a neat FF program.
Just means they're closed then.
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #354 on: July 03, 2013, 08:36:54 AM »
Emirates does charge fulel charges now as of a few months ago, you can update that...

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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #355 on: July 25, 2013, 12:08:37 AM »
Funny thing with Miles & More: no YQ on int'l trips flying on US, but over $700 if you fly on UA. Still cheaper than flying on any miles & more airline (with LOT as an exception).

With SQ, they don't charge YQ on any USA carrier, but M&M decided to have different fees for US and UA.
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #356 on: July 25, 2013, 12:14:55 AM »
Funny thing with Miles & More: no YQ on int'l trips flying on US, but over $700 if you fly on UA. Still cheaper than flying on any miles & more airline (with LOT as an exception).

With SQ, they don't charge YQ on any USA carrier, but M&M decided to have different fees for US and UA.
Actually the funny thing is with SQ.

UA has YQ on paid tickets across the oceans-see ITA to view the amounts.
US does not have YQ on any tickets.
M&M just passes on the YQ on paid tickets.

NH and SQ are the strange cases here.
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #357 on: July 25, 2013, 12:22:43 AM »
Aha, I was under the impression its an American thing to be a good airline. :)

Well, here's a big loss of US leaving *A.
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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #358 on: September 18, 2013, 10:46:39 AM »
I'm looking to get to Israel using ANA miles and have found a flight on Swiss air that goes from JFK-ZUR-TLV and back. The cost is 60,000 miles plus $822.07 (!) in fuel/misc. surcharges. My question: is there any way using ANA miles on Swiss to avoid those charges? Do Swiss and United code share for example?

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Re: The New Color-Coded Fuel Surcharges On Award Tickets Master Thread!
« Reply #359 on: September 23, 2013, 11:01:36 AM »
Bump. Any suggestions?  ???

I'm looking to get to Israel using ANA miles and have found a flight on Swiss air that goes from JFK-ZUR-TLV and back. The cost is 60,000 miles plus $822.07 (!) in fuel/misc. surcharges. My question: is there any way using ANA miles on Swiss to avoid those charges? Do Swiss and United code share for example?