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Re: Are you going to buy stocks in Facebook?
« Reply #100 on: May 22, 2012, 02:02:59 AM »
I thought it was north of 200 but I will go with 195. See how we can play with numbers all day and not really get anywhere. We heard the same over valued arguments with Goggles IPO and we seen what that stock has done.

Correction, it's being reported at 195 all over the interwebs, but this detailed answer of 67.5 seems to be much more accurate.

ETA: EPS kinda confirmed by ycharts:

« Last Edit: May 22, 2012, 02:07:25 AM by AsherO »
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Re: Are you going to buy stocks in Facebook?
« Reply #101 on: May 22, 2012, 02:07:59 AM »
\You're suggesting that FB would be an attractive buy at 30x P/E, when you probably wouldn't touch GOOG at 30x P/E...
One has to take into account other factors ex growth rate and potential etc

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Re: Are you going to buy stocks in Facebook?
« Reply #102 on: May 22, 2012, 02:10:35 AM »
I'm not comparing them but they share a business model. The only stream of Rev for fb is online adds

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Re: Are you going to buy stocks in Facebook?
« Reply #103 on: May 22, 2012, 02:30:01 AM »
One has to take into account other factors ex growth rate and potential etc

So you think FB has 2-3 times the potential of Google?
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Re: Are you going to buy stocks in Facebook?
« Reply #104 on: May 22, 2012, 11:35:03 AM »
Bought @ 31.75. Put in a 1.00 trailing stop. Will sell at close if stop is not hit.
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Re: Are you going to buy stocks in Facebook?
« Reply #105 on: May 22, 2012, 11:44:53 AM »
Bought @ 31.75. Put in a 1.00 trailing stop. Will sell at close if stop is not hit.

Nice bet. So now you're a day trader too? :P
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Re: Are you going to buy stocks in Facebook?
« Reply #106 on: May 22, 2012, 11:51:06 AM »
Other than for my IRA that is all I do.
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Re: Are you going to buy stocks in Facebook?
« Reply #107 on: May 22, 2012, 12:15:35 PM »
Bought @ 31.75. Put in a 1.00 trailing stop. Will sell at close if stop is not hit.
Stop hit at 32.58.
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Re: Are you going to buy stocks in Facebook?
« Reply #108 on: May 22, 2012, 12:26:58 PM »
Bought @ 31.75. Put in a 1.00 trailing stop. Will sell at close if stop is not hit.
Excuse my ignorance what is a trailing stop

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Re: Are you going to buy stocks in Facebook?
« Reply #109 on: May 22, 2012, 12:30:06 PM »
Excuse my ignorance what is a trailing stop

http://www.investopedia.com/terms/t/trailingstop.asp#axzz1vcIVpxjC

Basically, as long as there's liquidity, your shares sell as soon as the stock drops $1 from the highest price (peak) after you placed the order.

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Re: Are you going to buy stocks in Facebook?
« Reply #110 on: May 22, 2012, 01:09:48 PM »
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/t/trailingstop.asp#axzz1vcIVpxjC

Basically, as long as there's liquidity, your shares sell as soon as the stock drops $1 from the highest price (peak) after you placed the order.

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interesting

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Re: Are you going to buy stocks in Facebook?
« Reply #111 on: May 22, 2012, 01:37:33 PM »
So you think FB has 2-3 times the potential of Google?
No way but at some point they would be aloud in China and that would be huge for them

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Re: Are you going to buy stocks in Facebook?
« Reply #112 on: May 22, 2012, 01:44:14 PM »
No way but at some point they would be allowed in China and that would be huge for them

FTFY

1. Whether they'll ever be allowed in China is TBD, highly speculative to hope for that.
2. Is FB willing to comply with China's legal policies?
2. Google was allowed to operate in China and chose not to, FB's operations are run by Sheryl Sandberg, a former Google executive.
4.  Chinese FB aren't as valuable as US users, so it is TBD how they'd monetize that userbase.
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Re: Are you going to buy stocks in Facebook?
« Reply #113 on: May 22, 2012, 01:46:28 PM »
also they need to monetize thier user base better before they get to china otherwise they are in the same place they are in now

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Re: Are you going to buy stocks in Facebook?
« Reply #114 on: May 22, 2012, 02:31:30 PM »
The key to facebooks growth will be well planned acquisitions (ie NOT Instagram), much like Google. For example, if they were to buy an ad network, they have a ridiculous amount of data with which they can integrate and target the ads.
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Re: Are you going to buy stocks in Facebook?
« Reply #115 on: May 22, 2012, 03:05:42 PM »
The key to facebooks growth will be well planned acquisitions (ie NOT Instagram), much like Google. For example, if they were to buy an ad network, they have a ridiculous amount of data with which they can integrate and target the ads.
yeah but so far no company has found a way to do good mobile ads which is where the next big platform is going to be

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Re: Are you going to buy stocks in Facebook?
« Reply #116 on: May 22, 2012, 03:41:19 PM »
yeah but so far no company has found a way to do good mobile ads which is where the next big platform is going to be

I think the key to that is targeted local offers, which Google is in place to implement with the Android mobile OS.
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Re: Are you going to buy stocks in Facebook?
« Reply #117 on: May 22, 2012, 03:43:43 PM »
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/t/trailingstop.asp#axzz1vcIVpxjC

Basically, as long as there's liquidity, your shares sell as soon as the stock drops $1 from the highest price (peak) after you placed the order.

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I would just add it can be a percentage or dollar amount.
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Re: Are you going to buy stocks in Facebook?
« Reply #118 on: May 22, 2012, 03:52:35 PM »
I would just add it can be a percentage or dollar amount.

Well, in your case it was $1, really I should've written $x (or x%).
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Re: Are you going to buy stocks in Facebook?
« Reply #119 on: May 22, 2012, 04:25:21 PM »
FTFY

1. Whether they'll ever be allowed in China is TBD, highly speculative to hope for that.
2. Is FB willing to comply with China's legal policies?
2. Google was allowed to operate in China and chose not to, FB's operations are run by Sheryl Sandberg, a former Google executive.
4.  Chinese FB aren't as valuable as US users, so it is TBD how they'd monetize that userbase.
+1
Agree and that's why I'm not a buyer now even below 31