Is Starbucks Kosher?

[good sam]

Both the CRC and the Star-K have very stringent views on Starbucks coffee.  Personally, I'm an addict and find this to be devastating.  Is there any kashrus organization that explicitly says Starbucks coffee is kosher? (and don't tell me kosherstarbucks.com).

[Dan]

It depends what you are getting.

[YudiG]

Both the CRC and the Star-K have very stringent views on Starbucks coffee.  Personally, I'm an addict and find this to be devastating.  Is there any kashrus organization that explicitly says Starbucks coffee is kosher? (and don't tell me kosherstarbucks.com).

Just buy the k-cups and get a Kuerig

It depends what you are getting.

+1

[A3]

It depends what you are getting.

+1.
Also depend on where your getting it.

[Mocha]

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[elig770]

There was a serises of articles on COLlive a while back...

[YudiG]

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the list is a year old...alot can change since then...have they released a new list?

[youG]

The COR in Toronto which is a very reliable hechsher says black coffee plain is kosher ( I'm not sure if it's printed anywhere but you can call them directly

[JEWDA]

The COR in Toronto which is a very reliable hechsher says black coffee plain is kosher ( I'm not sure if it's printed anywhere but you can call them directly

Do your research, it's not in the recent years.

[chaimmayer]

IIRC the CrC said everything that has kosher ingredients is ok if bought from a kiosk like the airport, but almost nothing is ok if bought from a store.  An esspresso in a strore would be ok but they should make it for you in a disposable cup.
Even the Crc admits there there is makom lihakal they just recommend people do things lichatchila - as makes sense.

[YudiG]

IIRC the CrC said everything that has kosher ingredients is ok if bought from a kiosk like the airport, but almost nothing is ok if bought from a store.  An esspresso in a strore would be ok but they should make it for you in a disposable cup.
Even the Crc admits there there is makom lihakal they just recommend people do things lichatchila - as makes sense.

whats the difference between airport and regular location?

[mercaz1]

so coffee from starbucks in manhattan is not kosher unless there is a printed hashgacha?

[DrDanny]

whats the difference between airport and regular location?

IIRC that whole problem is do to the fact that they wash the coffee stuff together with the food stuffs
so at a kiosk where they don't sell Bacon sandwiches u won't have a problem

[madopo]

The COR in Toronto which is a very reliable hechsher says black coffee plain is kosher ( I'm not sure if it's printed anywhere but you can call them directly

Plain coffee in general does not need a hechsher. Most of the "pump" flavors they use are kosher (you can ask to see them). The soy milk they use is as well. Some of (as this changes often)the cold glass frappaccinos are ok as well (even though they don't have a notable hechsher on them. R' Eidlitz ( one of the leading names in"kashrus"today : kosherquest.org) can answer any specific questions you have.

[YudiG]

IIRC that whole problem is do to the fact that they wash the coffee stuff together with the food stuffs
so at a kiosk where they don't sell Bacon sandwiches u won't have a problem

airports dont serve treif?

[moish]

Do your research, it's not in the recent years.

care to elaborate?

[chaimmayer]

IIRC that whole problem is do to the fact that they wash the coffee stuff together with the food stuffs
so at a kiosk where they don't sell Bacon sandwiches u won't have a problem

+1.  They may sell wrapped  sandwiches but they are not heating them up. No Starbucks store anywhere has hashgacha.  About black coffee the rabbi I spoke to at the CrC told me that at 7-11 and the like they just rinse out the coffee carafe in the sink but as Starbucks has now become like a treif restaurant that is why they do not recommend even black coffee.

[JEWDA]

care to elaborate?

Too many politics when it comes to hashgacha. This is not the place. One thing I can tell you is that the canadian government is trying to shut them down almost a year now. I don't know of any other hechsher in the world that got sued for over $1M in the last 4 years.

[Yeki89]

R' Breslaur holds that all starbucks, seven eleven, ect are not kosher if they wash the coffee pot out in the same sink as they wash out the bacon knifes.

[good sam]

Just to clarify the OP, I was referring to plain black coffee.  The CRC says lichatchila to be machmir (and I can't think of when it would be bidieved) and the Star K says its flat out not kosher. 

The CRC is ok with the dishwasher, the rags, and most other things with the cleaning process.  The problem is there is a 3-compartment sink they use before the stuff goes in the dishwasher.  In the first sink, the water coming in already has soap, so any taam coming from the treif dishes is pogum.  The problem is the second sink in which the hot water comes in without soap.  If the coffee basket is in the sink with the treif dishes, it could get taam l'shvach.

But even the CRC was unclear about whether the coffee basket actually goes in the sink with other things.  I've heard but can't confirm that Starbucks' policy is to wash the coffee equipment separately.  If this is the case, regular coffee would surely be good.  I'm wondering if any reputable rav hamachshir did the research to find out if the coffee equipment is washed separately, or even if it's usually washed separately.

Anyone? I'm desperate.