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Re: Best Cheesecake
« Reply #40 on: May 28, 2023, 01:18:17 PM »
Try giving cheesecakes at a kiddish for men instead of kugel, herring, and cholent and come back to me.

Cheesecake is the only excuse for parve cholent.
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Re: Best Cheesecake
« Reply #41 on: May 28, 2023, 02:43:09 PM »
Cheesecake is the only excuse for parve cholent.

Hardly an excuse

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Re: Best Cheesecake
« Reply #42 on: May 28, 2023, 09:31:38 PM »
Cheesecake is the only excuse for parve cholent.

Funny, but unless you’re having cholent at 8am and again at 1pm…

Incidentally, my brisket finished in the crock pot at 8am YomTov morning and it looked and smelled so delicious that I was tempted to dig in.

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Re: Best Cheesecake
« Reply #43 on: May 29, 2023, 12:09:12 AM »

Incidentally, my brisket finished in the crock pot at 8am YomTov morning and it looked and smelled so delicious that I was tempted to dig in.

I can picture the fiery recitation of the Tzemach's מימרא, followed by a nice שהכל :)

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Re: Best Cheesecake
« Reply #44 on: May 29, 2023, 07:45:00 AM »
I can picture the fiery recitation of the Tzemach's מימרא, followed by a nice שהכל :)

I settled for מזונות and cheesecake, worked out well. Ended up having like 3 dairy meals before brisket for טועמיה
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Re: Best Cheesecake
« Reply #45 on: May 29, 2023, 03:47:40 PM »
I settled for מזונות and cheesecake, worked out well. Ended up having like 3 dairy meals before brisket for טועמיה

it's good to be a Lubavitcher :P

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Re: Best Cheesecake
« Reply #46 on: May 29, 2023, 11:59:55 PM »
it's good to be a Lubavitcher :P

A proper Lubavitcher would probably have a milchig meal, wait an hour, and have a fleishig meal.
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Re: Best Cheesecake
« Reply #47 on: May 30, 2023, 12:56:49 AM »
A proper Lubavitcher would probably have a milchig meal, wait an hour, and have a fleishig meal.

And all before davening of course :)
Do Lubavitch wait an hour after milchig?

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Re: Best Cheesecake
« Reply #48 on: May 30, 2023, 10:19:10 AM »
And all before davening of course :)
Do Lubavitch wait an hour after milchig?
Depends which type. Some people wait 6 hours even for regular cheese.
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Re: Best Cheesecake
« Reply #49 on: May 30, 2023, 10:27:46 AM »
Depends which type. Some people wait 6 hours even for regular cheese.
and some don't wait 6 hours after any cheese...see kovetz halachos hilchos Shavu'os (not a psak I understand)



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Re: Best Cheesecake
« Reply #50 on: May 30, 2023, 10:44:19 AM »
Depends which type. Some people wait 6 hours even for regular cheese.

Interesting, I've yet to meet someone who does that.

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Re: Best Cheesecake
« Reply #51 on: May 30, 2023, 10:44:37 AM »
it's good to be a Lubavitcher :P

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Re: Best Cheesecake
« Reply #52 on: May 30, 2023, 10:52:40 AM »
Interesting, I've yet to meet someone who does that.
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Re: Best Cheesecake
« Reply #53 on: May 30, 2023, 10:54:04 AM »
and some don't wait 6 hours after any cheese...see kovetz halachos hilchos Shavu'os (not a psak I understand)




His geder of hard cheese is not the same as his quote from R Aharon.

Nobody eats cheese worms these days. In the past they were considered a delicacy.
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Re: Best Cheesecake
« Reply #54 on: May 30, 2023, 10:57:45 AM »
His geder of hard cheese is not the same as his quote from R Aharon.

Nobody eats cheese worms these days. In the past they were considered a delicacy.
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Re: Best Cheesecake
« Reply #55 on: May 30, 2023, 11:10:33 AM »
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: Best Cheesecake
« Reply #56 on: May 30, 2023, 12:34:52 PM »
Interesting, I've yet to meet someone who does that.
Psak of R' Hendel A"H, I believe some base it on if there is rennet or not.


Found this random thread
https://www.imamother.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17232
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Re: Best Cheesecake
« Reply #57 on: May 30, 2023, 07:15:18 PM »
Thanks for the sig, btw

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Re: Best Cheesecake
« Reply #58 on: May 31, 2023, 01:13:07 AM »
and some don't wait 6 hours after any cheese...see kovetz halachos hilchos Shavu'os (not a psak I understand)


Any historical basis for this? Was the cheese back in the day, that the Poskim clearly had, truly harder than all our cheeses?

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Re: Best Cheesecake
« Reply #59 on: May 31, 2023, 01:37:07 AM »
Any historical basis for this? Was the cheese back in the day, that the Poskim clearly had, truly harder than all our cheeses?

Many poskim point to the fact that גבינה קשה is determined by the acharonim either by being aged for six months or if it contains worms, which most of our cheeses don't fall under neither category. See for example the ערוך השלחן below.

https://beta.hebrewbooks.org/reader/reader.aspx?sfid=9106#p=419&fitMode=fitwidth&hlts=&ocr=