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Related DDF Threads:
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-Kauai Master Thread
-Maui Master Thread
-Oahu Master Thread


Before you go:

How long should I go for?
You could spend 10 years on Kauai and not get your fill. That being said, the bare minimum to enjoy your stay is 4 days on the ground. A week is ideal.

It's possible to do a short trip by leaving early Sunday morning, getting there in the afternoon, and then leaving Thursday night and being back home for shabbos.

Do I need a guide book?
Very definitely. Sure you could find most info online, but nothing compares to a good, written-by-a-local, guide book. Kauai Revealed is by far the best option, and will possibly be the best $16 you spent on your trip.

What about Shabbos?
Some authorities hold that there's a dateline issue with Shabbos.
The local communities keep shabbos on Saturday.
Definitely ask your LOR before you go - some hold simply that Shabbos is on Saturday, some hold that you have to keep Shabbos on both Friday and Saturday, and some hold that you have to keep D'oreisas on Friday and full Shabbos on Saturday.

If you must keep 2 days, remember that there are many questions that could come up (such as when to light Shabbos candles, how to warm up food, etc.), so make sure to discuss it all with your LOR.

There have been books written about the Chabad opinion of keeping shabbos only on Saturday. Rabbi Aharon Dovid Gancz gives an absolutely fascinating pilpul on the topic, if you get a chance to attend one please record it (with permission) and upload the video online.


Getting there and getting around:

Air:
The main airport is in Lihue, and is designated LIH.
You could fly directly from the mainland to LIH from
DEN (UA)
LAX (AA, DL, HA, UA)
OAK (AS, HA)
SAN (AS)
SEA (AS)
SFO (UA)
SJC (AS)
PDX (AS)
PHX (US)
YVR (WestJet)

There are no direct flights from the East coast, so you will stop in one of these cities.
Alternately, you could fly directly to Honolulu (HNL) and continue to LIH from there.

Hawaiian, Go, and Island Air fly interisland to LIH from HNL and OGG. There are no direct flights between LIH and the Big Island (ITO/KOA).

You can also use 5K AA or, 6k UA, or 7.5k HA miles each way to fly interisland. United allows a free stopover on a round-trip, so for instance you can fly HNL-LIH-OGG-HNL for just 12K miles.

Car:
A car is necessary on Kauai. All major companies have branches, mostly at the airport. There are also some local companies.

National has Executive Aisle/Selection at the airport, but Hertz doesn't have Gold Choice. Avis also has a desk at the Grand Hyatt Kauai. Check out www.discounthawaiicarrental.com - they book from the major brands, and are worth a try.

There's nothing like a convertible on Kauai, but a 4WD is better (sometimes even necessary) for certain places such as Polihale Beach or Milolii Ridge Road. Taking a convertible for most of your stay and a 4WD for a day or two is a good idea.


Where to stay:

There are 3 major areas where to stay. The South side is drier so good weather is more or less guaranteed. The North side is far prettier, with sheer cliffs and a backdrop of lovely green mountains. However, the weather in winter could be rainy and it can be buggy as well.
The rain typically doesn't last long, and is usually accompanied by numerous rainbows, so it's usually not too bad. However, it's something you should take into account. The East side has the cities of Lihue and Kapa'a, alone with countless hotels and resorts. This area isn't as beautiful and the North or South side.

When choosing an area also consider how far it is to your chosen activities, not just the weather, For example, it takes about an hour from the Grand Hyatt to Waimea Canyon, but over two hours from the St. Regis.  On the other hand the St. Regis is much closer to north shore activities.

Here are some places that are discussed in this thread:

NameAreaMore InfoComments
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Grand Hyatt KauaiSouth sideWebsiteGenerally considered to be the top hotel on Kauai, and countless DDF'ers have stayed there. The weather is perfect year-round, it's right by Poipu beach, and you drive through an awesome tree tunnel to get there. There are countless pools and exotic birds all around.
St. Regis PrincevilleNorth sideWebsiteAnother beautiful hotel, this is an SPG category 7. The setting of the SRP is absolutely breathtaking, with the ocean crashing on the cliffs below and the waterfall-filled mountains in the background. The views from the rooms are unparalleled, but most rooms have no balconies.
Westin Princeville Ocean Resort Villas North sideWebsiteSPG category 6.
Sheraton Kauai Resort South sideWebsiteSPG category 5.
"Get your own place"AnywhereWebsiteThere are countless condos, timeshares, or villas available to rent on the island. The advantages are that you get more for your money - a couple of bedrooms, living/dining rooms, and a full kitchen. There will usually be a pool, sometimes even a private one. Additionally, they're often cheaper than a hotel. There are many places to find them -
 HomeAway Kauai
VRBO Kauai
Airbnb Kauai, etc.


What to do:

Beaches:
There are countless beaches on Kauai, and all are public. Most offer amazing snorkeling. The East and South side beaches are safe for swimming / snorkeling year round, while some North and West beaches could be deadly in winter. Here are some popular ones, in no particular order:

NameAreaComments
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PoipuSouth sideThis beach is right by the GHK. Full amenities (lifeguard, showers, etc.). Snorkeling is amazing here, especially in the morning. Sea turtles and the critically endangered Hawaiian monk seal are commonly seen here. Gorgeous sunsets.
Ke'eNorth sideThis beach is the gateway to the famous Kalalau Trail. The view from here is amazing, looking out over the majestic Na Pali cliffs. Great snorkeling, with a large fringing reef. This beach could be deadly winter, when 20-foot waves crash onto shore. However, at times it's perfectly calm. Use common sense. The beach is part of Hāʻena State Park
TunnelsNorth sideBeautiful crescent beach, with a lovely view of "Puff the Magic Dragon" mountain. Great snorkeling, and beautiful sunrises. May be dangerous in winter.
LumahaiNorth sideVery pretty beach, where they filmed South Pacific. Extremely dangerous winter.
PolihaleWest side17 solid miles of uninterrupted sand. Fairly remote, and accessible only via dirt and sand road, so 4WD is preferred. Unswimmable most of the year, but the area called Queens Pond is safe all year round. Since it's so huge, you could easily find a secluded spot. Great view of the south side of Na Pali, with amazing sunsets.
Queen's BathNorth sideThis is a rocky beach by the cliffs under Princeville. Very cool during the summer, when you could swim in a rock pool with the fish, but absolutely deadly during the winter (people die there all the time).
KalalauNorth sideOne of the most beautiful beaches in the entire world. Unfortunately, it's only accessible via one of the most difficult and most dangerous hikes in the world, the Kalalau Trail.
HonopūNorth sideAnother one of the top ten beaches in the world. The only way to get there is by swimming - from Kalalau beach :o!
Hanalei BayNorth sideA beautiful crescent beach with wonderful views. Mediocre snorkeling, but safe even in the winter. Very predictable waves, so this is the top spot for learning to surf or paddle. Breathtaking sunrises and sunsets.
SecretNorth sideRelatively secluded beach, and needs a bit of a hike to get there.
LydgateEast sideA fully protected beach, with pretty good snorkeling. Great for little kids, but is usually very busy.
NawiliwiliEast sideBoring beach, but the park of the the side is a nice place to stop for lunch and watch the kitesurfers.
Kapa'aEast sideAnother relatively boring beach, but a nice place to have lunch if you're in Kapa'a.


Hiking:
There are a tremendous amount of great hikes on Kauai. Check the Kauai Revealed book for detailed info on all of them, with maps, difficulty ratings, etc. These are just a few which are discussed in this thread:

NameAreaComments
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Hike 2Area 2Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.


Other activities:

ActivityComments
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Helicopter toursEasily the most expensive activity on Kauai, and easily the most amazing. You get to see otherwise inaccessible places - among others, you fly into Waimea Canyon, along the stunning Na Pali coast, and into the crater of the extinct Mount Waiʻaleʻale, now the wettest place on earth. It's an experience that could simply not be matched. Blue Hawaiian is the most popular and usually recommended. Jack Harter also flies amazing doors-off tours, which are wet, windy, and exhilirating :D.
Powered hang glidingThis is a unique flight lesson (counts a flying time for a pilot's license) in what's basically a motorized tricycle with wings. Supposed to be tremendous fun. Offered by Birds in Paradise.
Waimea CanyonLorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.
Kalalau Valley overlookLorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.
Hanalei Valley overlook
Kayaking
Biking
ATVing
Horseback riding
Ziplining
Cruises
4 Wheel Driving


Shopping:
  • Costco in Lihue has some kosher food, as well as the cheapest gas on the island
  • Wal-Mart, also in Lihue, also has some kosher food

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #40 on: November 08, 2010, 09:12:02 PM »
Ya I know, it's not ideal, but that week is the best time for us to go... I asked my wife and she said she was fine with it. We figured that would be the day we don't run around as much but lounge by the pool or do something a little less active (maybe even a helicopter ride that day would be good?).

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« Reply #41 on: November 09, 2010, 12:07:18 PM »
Any other thoughts on getting a good rate, or at least getting some sort of upgrade out of for those dates, Dan? Thanks again for all your help!

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« Reply #42 on: November 09, 2010, 12:16:47 PM »
Any other thoughts on getting a good rate, or at least getting some sort of upgrade out of for those dates, Dan? Thanks again for all your help!
Yes, send me an email dan at dansdeals.com
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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #43 on: November 09, 2010, 04:05:22 PM »
We were In Kauai from November 1st to November 7th.
Dan helped make this the trip we had dreamed of.
First, all the pre-trip advice, Kauai over Maui, Car rental from Costco, Hyatt certificates, and of course the GH, government rate with a suite upgrade.
So we walked into the GH and my wife and I knew we were going to love the place. What an incredible property. Although we arrived at night and did not get the full impression, none the less it was still a grand entrance. The service was top notch. The suite upgrade along with all its perks was incredible.
The full ocean view suite was jaw dropping. Large living room/ dining area. large bathroom with jacuzzi tub. The most comfortable hotel bed I've slept on.
Suite upgrade got us:
1.Beautiful suite
2.Fresh fruit platter delivered to our room on arrival.   
3. Access to the Grand club ( saved us a lot of money) which got us free breakfast every morning with some kosher food options, Starbucks coffee (mocha's also)  every morning and throughout the day if you want, drinks (non alcoholic) all day, $4 beers ( as opposed to $8 elsewhere on the GH property), NY times and WSJ every day.
4. Access to the Anara spa which we used every day and loved it.
5. Free wireless internet for the entire stay.
6. Ability to opt out of $18 resort fee and only pay $8 a day for parking ( we ended up getting the $8 credited as well because of a service issue we had)



The GH has the most incredible pools I've ever seen. They go on for ever and the fresh water pool has a big water slide. the salt water lagoon overlooks the ocean and gives you the feeling that you are in the ocean but you are not.

We brought a box of frozen double wrapped kosher food with us and arranged in advance that they would warm the food for us wrapped and deliver it to our room. The first night we got a tray with our food, a single paper plate and a $40 bill (15 per meal, 10 for tax and gratuity). Very poor service. I have done this at the Ritz and they did not charge and went out of the way to make a very nice presentation (table ,with table cloth, pitcher of ice water, flower, candle, etc) and no charge.
I spoke with the assistant food manager and everything changed. He comped 2 nights of fees for dinner, no corkage fee for my wine for the entire stay,  gave us a complimentary fruit platter, and served us wherever we wanted. The rest of our meals were incredible. Private dinners (restaurant only open for breakfast, lunch and private parties), with our own waiter,  in the Ilima Terrace overlooking the ocean. We also had dinners served to us in the  Seaside Lounge also overlooking the ocean with live entertainment.

As for activities we used the Ultimate Kauai guidebook and it was excellent. We followed the recommendation and took the Blue Hawaiin Helicopter tour. The eco star helicopters are incredible, great views and excellent pilot. Unfortunately, I was assigned a middle seat, but it was still incredible.
Due to weather conditions there were no boats leaving from the north shore to see the Napali coast. We took Captain Andy's from Port Allan and it wasa lot of fun. The Catamaran was beautiful and the crew and captain were excellent also.
The Kauai guide book recommends Silver Lake stable in the North shore for Horseback riding and a swim in their secret falls. Definitely a dud and not worth it. No real views other than slowly trotting along the property and seeing trees. The secret falls is a glorified swimming pool.
Of course ( thanks to Dan!) all adventures were booked through the Hyatt concierge and paid for with Costco Hyatt gift certificates.
We snorkeled Poipu beach, watched 25 foot waves on the north shore with surfers getting towed on jet skies to surf them, we hiked waiemea canyon, and of course relaxed in the pools and the spa at the Grand Hyatt.

Cant wait to go back!!

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #44 on: November 09, 2010, 04:42:42 PM »
Wow that sounds like an incredible trip. Hopefully we can also enjoy such a beautiful place. Thanks for the trip report!

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #45 on: November 09, 2010, 04:51:59 PM »
Awesome report, glad that the Dansdeals Concierge was able to help you out!

Kauai is just so beautiful...it's painful to leave!
And the Grand Hyatt is amazing...

Next time if you want to go to a real secret falls do the Kayak/Hike to secret falls...it's incredible!

Personally we just bring our own frozen food and a $10 burner to heat things up on.  Much simpler than trying to coordinate meals with the chef and then paying for them to reheat and deliver them.
But it probably is fun to eat in some of those restaurants!

Blue Hawaiian heli tour are something you'll never forget.  Seeing Na Pali and Waialeale like that is so much fun!
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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #46 on: February 03, 2011, 07:54:35 PM »
Just got a manager at the GH Kauai to override capacity and confirm a concierge client of mine into an oceanfront suite...I don't think there's any other place in the world that I'd rather be right now than there.
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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #47 on: February 03, 2011, 09:01:51 PM »
Just got a manager at the GH Kauai to override capacity and confirm a concierge client of mine into an oceanfront suite...I don't think there's any other place in the world that I'd rather be right now than there.

Why don't you move to HI and run DD from there? :P
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« Reply #48 on: February 03, 2011, 09:02:57 PM »
Why don't you move to HI and run DD from there? :P
If not for kosher food and chinuch...
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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #49 on: February 17, 2011, 04:19:29 PM »
IF going FC, what's the most comfortable flying experience from New York? AA has nice seats to LAX, but the idea of a red eye on the return (from Kauai) on regular seat sounds brutal end for a vacation (and then another 6 hours to JFK).

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« Reply #50 on: February 17, 2011, 05:50:18 PM »
IF going FC, what's the most comfortable flying experience from New York? AA has nice seats to LAX, but the idea of a red eye on the return (from Kauai) on regular seat sounds brutal end for a vacation (and then another 6 hours to JFK).

What about trying through DFW I think the planes from there on AA should be 763s which should have a very nice lie-flat (pretty much flat bed really) seat.

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« Reply #51 on: February 17, 2011, 07:22:32 PM »
What about trying through DFW I think the planes from there on AA should be 763s which should have a very nice lie-flat (pretty much flat bed really) seat.
+1.  Or ORD.

The best will be CO from EWR-HNL or IAH-HNL in BF.
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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #52 on: February 18, 2011, 12:38:25 PM »
Thanks. Continental being the Boeing 767-400 Micronesia from EWR-HNL ? That beats the AA planes from their hubs to LIU?

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« Reply #53 on: February 18, 2011, 12:48:01 PM »
Thanks. Continental being the Boeing 767-400 Micronesia from EWR-HNL ? That beats the AA planes from their hubs to LIU?
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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #54 on: February 20, 2011, 10:36:58 AM »
But I would need Saturday stopover with Continental, so that makes my decision easier. Thanks.

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« Reply #55 on: February 20, 2011, 10:38:18 AM »
But I would need Saturday stopover with Continental, so that makes my decision easier. Thanks.
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« Reply #56 on: February 20, 2011, 10:51:28 AM »
Huh?

I think he's trying to say he won't be taking CO because he doesn't want to stay over Saturday night. Otherwise, my question is the same as yours... huh?

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #57 on: February 20, 2011, 08:20:12 PM »
Correct, if I'm going on mileage with Continental, don't I need a Saturday night stayover (which I won't be doing) ?

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #58 on: February 20, 2011, 08:24:00 PM »
why would you need sat nite stay?

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« Reply #59 on: February 20, 2011, 08:38:52 PM »
Correct, if I'm going on mileage with Continental, don't I need a Saturday night stayover (which I won't be doing) ?
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