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Before you go:

How long should I go for?
You could spend 10 years on Kauai and not get your fill. That being said, the bare minimum to enjoy your stay is 4 days on the ground. A week is ideal.

It's possible to do a short trip by leaving early Sunday morning, getting there in the afternoon, and then leaving Thursday night and being back home for shabbos.

Do I need a guide book?
Very definitely. Sure you could find most info online, but nothing compares to a good, written-by-a-local, guide book. Kauai Revealed is by far the best option, and will possibly be the best $16 you spent on your trip.

What about Shabbos?
Some authorities hold that there's a dateline issue with Shabbos.
The local communities keep shabbos on Saturday.
Definitely ask your LOR before you go - some hold simply that Shabbos is on Saturday, some hold that you have to keep Shabbos on both Friday and Saturday, and some hold that you have to keep D'oreisas on Friday and full Shabbos on Saturday.

If you must keep 2 days, remember that there are many questions that could come up (such as when to light Shabbos candles, how to warm up food, etc.), so make sure to discuss it all with your LOR.

There have been books written about the Chabad opinion of keeping shabbos only on Saturday. Rabbi Aharon Dovid Gancz gives an absolutely fascinating pilpul on the topic, if you get a chance to attend one please record it (with permission) and upload the video online.


Getting there and getting around:

Air:
The main airport is in Lihue, and is designated LIH.
You could fly directly from the mainland to LIH from
DEN (UA)
LAX (AA, DL, HA, UA)
OAK (AS, HA)
SAN (AS)
SEA (AS)
SFO (UA)
SJC (AS)
PDX (AS)
PHX (US)
YVR (WestJet)

There are no direct flights from the East coast, so you will stop in one of these cities.
Alternately, you could fly directly to Honolulu (HNL) and continue to LIH from there.

Hawaiian, Go, and Island Air fly interisland to LIH from HNL and OGG. There are no direct flights between LIH and the Big Island (ITO/KOA).

You can also use 5K AA or, 6k UA, or 7.5k HA miles each way to fly interisland. United allows a free stopover on a round-trip, so for instance you can fly HNL-LIH-OGG-HNL for just 12K miles.

Car:
A car is necessary on Kauai. All major companies have branches, mostly at the airport. There are also some local companies.

National has Executive Aisle/Selection at the airport, but Hertz doesn't have Gold Choice. Avis also has a desk at the Grand Hyatt Kauai. Check out www.discounthawaiicarrental.com - they book from the major brands, and are worth a try.

There's nothing like a convertible on Kauai, but a 4WD is better (sometimes even necessary) for certain places such as Polihale Beach or Milolii Ridge Road. Taking a convertible for most of your stay and a 4WD for a day or two is a good idea.


Where to stay:

There are 3 major areas where to stay. The South side is drier so good weather is more or less guaranteed. The North side is far prettier, with sheer cliffs and a backdrop of lovely green mountains. However, the weather in winter could be rainy and it can be buggy as well.
The rain typically doesn't last long, and is usually accompanied by numerous rainbows, so it's usually not too bad. However, it's something you should take into account. The East side has the cities of Lihue and Kapa'a, alone with countless hotels and resorts. This area isn't as beautiful and the North or South side.

When choosing an area also consider how far it is to your chosen activities, not just the weather, For example, it takes about an hour from the Grand Hyatt to Waimea Canyon, but over two hours from the St. Regis.  On the other hand the St. Regis is much closer to north shore activities.

Here are some places that are discussed in this thread:

NameAreaMore InfoComments
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Grand Hyatt KauaiSouth sideWebsiteGenerally considered to be the top hotel on Kauai, and countless DDF'ers have stayed there. The weather is perfect year-round, it's right by Poipu beach, and you drive through an awesome tree tunnel to get there. There are countless pools and exotic birds all around.
St. Regis PrincevilleNorth sideWebsiteAnother beautiful hotel, this is an SPG category 7. The setting of the SRP is absolutely breathtaking, with the ocean crashing on the cliffs below and the waterfall-filled mountains in the background. The views from the rooms are unparalleled, but most rooms have no balconies.
Westin Princeville Ocean Resort Villas North sideWebsiteSPG category 6.
Sheraton Kauai Resort South sideWebsiteSPG category 5.
"Get your own place"AnywhereWebsiteThere are countless condos, timeshares, or villas available to rent on the island. The advantages are that you get more for your money - a couple of bedrooms, living/dining rooms, and a full kitchen. There will usually be a pool, sometimes even a private one. Additionally, they're often cheaper than a hotel. There are many places to find them -
 HomeAway Kauai
VRBO Kauai
Airbnb Kauai, etc.


What to do:

Beaches:
There are countless beaches on Kauai, and all are public. Most offer amazing snorkeling. The East and South side beaches are safe for swimming / snorkeling year round, while some North and West beaches could be deadly in winter. Here are some popular ones, in no particular order:

NameAreaComments
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PoipuSouth sideThis beach is right by the GHK. Full amenities (lifeguard, showers, etc.). Snorkeling is amazing here, especially in the morning. Sea turtles and the critically endangered Hawaiian monk seal are commonly seen here. Gorgeous sunsets.
Ke'eNorth sideThis beach is the gateway to the famous Kalalau Trail. The view from here is amazing, looking out over the majestic Na Pali cliffs. Great snorkeling, with a large fringing reef. This beach could be deadly winter, when 20-foot waves crash onto shore. However, at times it's perfectly calm. Use common sense. The beach is part of Hāʻena State Park
TunnelsNorth sideBeautiful crescent beach, with a lovely view of "Puff the Magic Dragon" mountain. Great snorkeling, and beautiful sunrises. May be dangerous in winter.
LumahaiNorth sideVery pretty beach, where they filmed South Pacific. Extremely dangerous winter.
PolihaleWest side17 solid miles of uninterrupted sand. Fairly remote, and accessible only via dirt and sand road, so 4WD is preferred. Unswimmable most of the year, but the area called Queens Pond is safe all year round. Since it's so huge, you could easily find a secluded spot. Great view of the south side of Na Pali, with amazing sunsets.
Queen's BathNorth sideThis is a rocky beach by the cliffs under Princeville. Very cool during the summer, when you could swim in a rock pool with the fish, but absolutely deadly during the winter (people die there all the time).
KalalauNorth sideOne of the most beautiful beaches in the entire world. Unfortunately, it's only accessible via one of the most difficult and most dangerous hikes in the world, the Kalalau Trail.
HonopūNorth sideAnother one of the top ten beaches in the world. The only way to get there is by swimming - from Kalalau beach :o!
Hanalei BayNorth sideA beautiful crescent beach with wonderful views. Mediocre snorkeling, but safe even in the winter. Very predictable waves, so this is the top spot for learning to surf or paddle. Breathtaking sunrises and sunsets.
SecretNorth sideRelatively secluded beach, and needs a bit of a hike to get there.
LydgateEast sideA fully protected beach, with pretty good snorkeling. Great for little kids, but is usually very busy.
NawiliwiliEast sideBoring beach, but the park of the the side is a nice place to stop for lunch and watch the kitesurfers.
Kapa'aEast sideAnother relatively boring beach, but a nice place to have lunch if you're in Kapa'a.


Hiking:
There are a tremendous amount of great hikes on Kauai. Check the Kauai Revealed book for detailed info on all of them, with maps, difficulty ratings, etc. These are just a few which are discussed in this thread:

NameAreaComments
___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Hike 1Area 1Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.
Hike 2Area 2Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.


Other activities:

ActivityComments
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Helicopter toursEasily the most expensive activity on Kauai, and easily the most amazing. You get to see otherwise inaccessible places - among others, you fly into Waimea Canyon, along the stunning Na Pali coast, and into the crater of the extinct Mount Waiʻaleʻale, now the wettest place on earth. It's an experience that could simply not be matched. Blue Hawaiian is the most popular and usually recommended. Jack Harter also flies amazing doors-off tours, which are wet, windy, and exhilirating :D.
Powered hang glidingThis is a unique flight lesson (counts a flying time for a pilot's license) in what's basically a motorized tricycle with wings. Supposed to be tremendous fun. Offered by Birds in Paradise.
Waimea CanyonLorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.
Kalalau Valley overlookLorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.
Hanalei Valley overlook
Kayaking
Biking
ATVing
Horseback riding
Ziplining
Cruises
4 Wheel Driving


Shopping:
  • Costco in Lihue has some kosher food, as well as the cheapest gas on the island
  • Wal-Mart, also in Lihue, also has some kosher food

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #2320 on: December 12, 2016, 08:44:11 AM »
There's a photographer at GHK, if you're staying there... and perhaps even if you're not?

I am indeed staying there iyh.  Do I need to book in advance?

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« Reply #2321 on: December 12, 2016, 10:01:45 AM »
Don't believe so, but couldn't hurt, if possible.
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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #2322 on: December 12, 2016, 11:07:22 AM »
Don't believe so, but couldn't hurt, if possible.

Thank you

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #2323 on: December 14, 2016, 11:11:33 PM »
I'd like to say a huge thank you to Dan and all the TR posters whose detailed descriptions of their trips were an enormous help in planning our 11-day trip next week to Kauai & Maui.

If anyone here can have a quick look at our planned itinerary and suggest any improvements I'd greatly appreciate it! (Maui portion posted in Maui thread)


Kauai:   Sunrise ~7:10 am, Sunset ~5:59 pm

Sun:   
•   6p Land in LIH, stop in WalMart

Mon:    
•   7:45a Leave to LIH airport. 8:15a - 10a Helicopter Tour (1 hr in air). Try for front seats
•   Afternoon: Explore resort grounds, Po’ipu Beach (5 min drive from GHK), Snorkeling
•   Spouting Horn (Just West of Po’ipu)

Tues:    
•   Waimea Canyon Drive up to the Canyon (very scenic, leave early in day).
•   Stop at Waimea Canyon Lookout (halfway up the mountain)
•   Skip the popular Kalalau Lookout and go 2 min further to the nicer Pu’u O Kila Lookout
•   Hiking (choose trail from book, Canyon Trail to Waipo’o Falls,1st half of the Po’omau Ditch Trail, etc)
•   Makaha Ridge road to view Na Pali
•   Drive to West shore, Swim in Queens Pond, Sunset in Polihale Beach

Wed:    
•   Leave early, Check weather first! 90 min drive to North shore - Princeville area
•   Queen's Bath (deadly to swim in winter!)
•   Continue west around the island to the Hanalei Bridge & Valley Lookout
•   Tunnels Beach
•   Ke’e Beach
•   Kalalau Trailhead up the road, hike until the Hanakapiai Beach, Wet/Dry caves

Thu:   
•   8:15a head out to Kayak the Wailua River with Kamokila Hawaiian Village to Fern Grotto and Secret Falls. (2-5 hours, start by 9:30am)
•   Wailua Falls, 'Opaeka'a Falls

Fri:    
•   Pool/Beach/Snorkel, Farmers Market, Shabbos preps

Shabbos in GHK

Sunday 10a   Flight to Maui

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #2324 on: December 14, 2016, 11:22:25 PM »
I'd like to say a huge thank you to Dan and all the TR posters whose detailed descriptions of their trips were an enormous help in planning our 11-day trip next week to Kauai & Maui.

If anyone here can have a quick look at our planned itinerary and suggest any improvements I'd greatly appreciate it! (Maui portion posted in Maui thread)


Kauai:   Sunrise ~7:10 am, Sunset ~5:59 pm

Sun:   
•   6p Land in LIH, stop in WalMart

Mon:   
•   7:45a Leave to LIH airport. 8:15a - 10a Helicopter Tour (1 hr in air). Try for front seats
•   Afternoon: Explore resort grounds, Po’ipu Beach (5 min drive from GHK), Snorkeling
•   Spouting Horn (Just West of Po’ipu)

Tues:   
•   Waimea Canyon Drive up to the Canyon (very scenic, leave early in day).
•   Stop at Waimea Canyon Lookout (halfway up the mountain)
•   Skip the popular Kalalau Lookout and go 2 min further to the nicer Pu’u O Kila Lookout
•   Hiking (choose trail from book, Canyon Trail to Waipo’o Falls,1st half of the Po’omau Ditch Trail, etc)
•   Makaha Ridge road to view Na Pali
•   Drive to West shore, Swim in Queens Pond, Sunset in Polihale Beach

Wed:   
•   Leave early, Check weather first! 90 min drive to North shore - Princeville area
•   Queen's Bath (deadly to swim in winter!)
•   Continue west around the island to the Hanalei Bridge & Valley Lookout
•   Tunnels Beach
•   Ke’e Beach
•   Kalalau Trailhead up the road, hike until the Hanakapiai Beach, Wet/Dry caves

Thu:   
•   8:15a head out to Kayak the Wailua River with Kamokila Hawaiian Village to Fern Grotto and Secret Falls. (2-5 hours, start by 9:30am)
•   Wailua Falls, 'Opaeka'a Falls

Fri:   
•   Pool/Beach/Snorkel, Farmers Market, Shabbos preps

Shabbos in GHK

Sunday 10a   Flight to Maui

Looks like an action packed vacation.

IMHO I would do the kayaking on Monday. It's really close.

Also, I would start wednesday all the way by the Kalalau Trailhead and work your way back. That way you know you got there and don't have to worry about timing as much.

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #2325 on: December 14, 2016, 11:42:05 PM »
Very smart suggestions, thanks!

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #2326 on: December 15, 2016, 08:11:31 AM »
If you do end up doing Kalalau in the afternoon, stick around for sunset on Ke'e Beach.

Also, don't bother checking the weather before heading north. This is Kauai - it rains for a bit every day and is glorious regardless. Unless there's a hurricane or something you could safely ignore any and all forecasts on the island.
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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #2327 on: December 15, 2016, 09:11:11 AM »
Looks awesome! On Tuesday I would go straight up to Pu'u O Kila and work your way down for the best chance of getting the view before it gets too foggy.

Agree with SF about the weather, it can change from minute to minute.

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #2328 on: December 15, 2016, 09:16:09 AM »
Looks awesome! On Tuesday I would go straight up to Pu'u O Kila and work your way down for the best chance of getting the view before it gets too foggy.

Agree with SF about the weather, it can change from minute to minute.

Agreed. That's a similar suggestion to mine.

Theme is that everything is awesome and you can easily lose track of time. It's better to start from the farthest point and work your way back home. That way even if you are running behind schedule (and you will) you don't have to drive all the way back afterwards.

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #2329 on: December 15, 2016, 09:27:34 AM »
I'd like to say a huge thank you to Dan and all the TR posters whose detailed descriptions of their trips were an enormous help in planning our 11-day trip next week to Kauai & Maui.

If anyone here can have a quick look at our planned itinerary and suggest any improvements I'd greatly appreciate it! (Maui portion posted in Maui thread)


Kauai:   Sunrise ~7:10 am, Sunset ~5:59 pm

Sun:   
•   6p Land in LIH, stop in WalMart

Mon:    
•   7:45a Leave to LIH airport. 8:15a - 10a Helicopter Tour (1 hr in air). Try for front seats
•   Afternoon: Explore resort grounds, Po’ipu Beach (5 min drive from GHK), Snorkeling
•   Spouting Horn (Just West of Po’ipu)

Tues:    
•   Waimea Canyon Drive up to the Canyon (very scenic, leave early in day).
•   Stop at Waimea Canyon Lookout (halfway up the mountain)
•   Skip the popular Kalalau Lookout and go 2 min further to the nicer Pu’u O Kila Lookout
•   Hiking (choose trail from book, Canyon Trail to Waipo’o Falls,1st half of the Po’omau Ditch Trail, etc)
•   Makaha Ridge road to view Na Pali
•   Drive to West shore, Swim in Queens Pond, Sunset in Polihale Beach

Wed:    
•   Leave early, Check weather first! 90 min drive to North shore - Princeville area
•   Queen's Bath (deadly to swim in winter!)
•   Continue west around the island to the Hanalei Bridge & Valley Lookout
•   Tunnels Beach
•   Ke’e Beach
•   Kalalau Trailhead up the road, hike until the Hanakapiai Beach, Wet/Dry caves

Thu:   
•   8:15a head out to Kayak the Wailua River with Kamokila Hawaiian Village to Fern Grotto and Secret Falls. (2-5 hours, start by 9:30am)
•   Wailua Falls, 'Opaeka'a Falls

Fri:    
•   Pool/Beach/Snorkel, Farmers Market, Shabbos preps

Shabbos in GHK

Sunday 10a   Flight to Maui

Itinerary looks great.  I am going to Kauai myself next month and will be there for the same amount of time and am considering doing a lot of the same things.  Thanks for the post.

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #2330 on: December 18, 2016, 12:30:36 AM »
Did they remove the points only option for grand club at the GHK? i tried multiple dates but only showing availability with close to 500 in cash

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #2331 on: December 18, 2016, 01:16:46 PM »
I'd like to say a huge thank you to Dan and all the TR posters whose detailed descriptions of their trips were an enormous help in planning our 11-day trip next week to Kauai & Maui.

If anyone here can have a quick look at our planned itinerary and suggest any improvements I'd greatly appreciate it! (Maui portion posted in Maui thread)


Kauai:   Sunrise ~7:10 am, Sunset ~5:59 pm

Sun:   
•   6p Land in LIH, stop in WalMart

Mon:    
•   7:45a Leave to LIH airport. 8:15a - 10a Helicopter Tour (1 hr in air). Try for front seats
•   Afternoon: Explore resort grounds, Po’ipu Beach (5 min drive from GHK), Snorkeling
•   Spouting Horn (Just West of Po’ipu)

Tues:    
•   Waimea Canyon Drive up to the Canyon (very scenic, leave early in day).
•   Stop at Waimea Canyon Lookout (halfway up the mountain)
•   Skip the popular Kalalau Lookout and go 2 min further to the nicer Pu’u O Kila Lookout
•   Hiking (choose trail from book, Canyon Trail to Waipo’o Falls,1st half of the Po’omau Ditch Trail, etc)
•   Makaha Ridge road to view Na Pali
•   Drive to West shore, Swim in Queens Pond, Sunset in Polihale Beach

Wed:    
•   Leave early, Check weather first! 90 min drive to North shore - Princeville area
•   Queen's Bath (deadly to swim in winter!)
•   Continue west around the island to the Hanalei Bridge & Valley Lookout
•   Tunnels Beach
•   Ke’e Beach
•   Kalalau Trailhead up the road, hike until the Hanakapiai Beach, Wet/Dry caves

Thu:   
•   8:15a head out to Kayak the Wailua River with Kamokila Hawaiian Village to Fern Grotto and Secret Falls. (2-5 hours, start by 9:30am)
•   Wailua Falls, 'Opaeka'a Falls

Fri:    
•   Pool/Beach/Snorkel, Farmers Market, Shabbos preps

Shabbos in GHK

Sunday 10a   Flight to Maui

Be prepared for some muddy hikes. It's been raining a lot for the past few weeks up north, and also for about a week in Waimea canyon area.

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #2332 on: December 18, 2016, 01:17:38 PM »
How long is the drive on the dirt rode to Polihale?

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #2333 on: December 18, 2016, 01:41:58 PM »
Did they remove the points only option for grand club at the GHK? i tried multiple dates but only showing availability with close to 500 in cash

anybody???

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #2334 on: December 18, 2016, 01:45:47 PM »
PUTPAC
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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« Reply #2335 on: December 18, 2016, 01:57:47 PM »
i already did that. the agent claimed that this is what is available. But i checked as far as four months away from now and still nothing. Weird

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #2336 on: December 18, 2016, 01:59:43 PM »
PUTPAC in-house reservations.
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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #2337 on: December 18, 2016, 02:00:50 PM »
will try and let you know. Thanks

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #2338 on: December 18, 2016, 02:20:15 PM »
There's a photographer at GHK, if you're staying there... and perhaps even if you're not?

Any idea what prices are like?

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #2339 on: December 18, 2016, 02:50:43 PM »
Free for shoot, and I even think you get one free photo. After that, it depends on how many you buy.
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