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Before you go:

How long should I go for?
You could spend 10 years on Kauai and not get your fill. That being said, the bare minimum to enjoy your stay is 4 days on the ground. A week is ideal.

It's possible to do a short trip by leaving early Sunday morning, getting there in the afternoon, and then leaving Thursday night and being back home for shabbos.

Do I need a guide book?
Very definitely. Sure you could find most info online, but nothing compares to a good, written-by-a-local, guide book. Kauai Revealed is by far the best option, and will possibly be the best $16 you spent on your trip.

What about Shabbos?
Some authorities hold that there's a dateline issue with Shabbos.
The local communities keep shabbos on Saturday.
Definitely ask your LOR before you go - some hold simply that Shabbos is on Saturday, some hold that you have to keep Shabbos on both Friday and Saturday, and some hold that you have to keep D'oreisas on Friday and full Shabbos on Saturday.

If you must keep 2 days, remember that there are many questions that could come up (such as when to light Shabbos candles, how to warm up food, etc.), so make sure to discuss it all with your LOR.

There have been books written about the Chabad opinion of keeping shabbos only on Saturday. Rabbi Aharon Dovid Gancz gives an absolutely fascinating pilpul on the topic, if you get a chance to attend one please record it (with permission) and upload the video online.


Getting there and getting around:

Air:
The main airport is in Lihue, and is designated LIH.
You could fly directly from the mainland to LIH from
DEN (UA)
LAX (AA, DL, HA, UA)
OAK (AS, HA)
SAN (AS)
SEA (AS)
SFO (UA)
SJC (AS)
PDX (AS)
PHX (US)
YVR (WestJet)

There are no direct flights from the East coast, so you will stop in one of these cities.
Alternately, you could fly directly to Honolulu (HNL) and continue to LIH from there.

Hawaiian, Go, and Island Air fly interisland to LIH from HNL and OGG. There are no direct flights between LIH and the Big Island (ITO/KOA).

You can also use 5K AA or, 6k UA, or 7.5k HA miles each way to fly interisland. United allows a free stopover on a round-trip, so for instance you can fly HNL-LIH-OGG-HNL for just 12K miles.

Car:
A car is necessary on Kauai. All major companies have branches, mostly at the airport. There are also some local companies.

National has Executive Aisle/Selection at the airport, but Hertz doesn't have Gold Choice. Avis also has a desk at the Grand Hyatt Kauai. Check out www.discounthawaiicarrental.com - they book from the major brands, and are worth a try.

There's nothing like a convertible on Kauai, but a 4WD is better (sometimes even necessary) for certain places such as Polihale Beach or Milolii Ridge Road. Taking a convertible for most of your stay and a 4WD for a day or two is a good idea.


Where to stay:

There are 3 major areas where to stay. The South side is drier so good weather is more or less guaranteed. The North side is far prettier, with sheer cliffs and a backdrop of lovely green mountains. However, the weather in winter could be rainy and it can be buggy as well.
The rain typically doesn't last long, and is usually accompanied by numerous rainbows, so it's usually not too bad. However, it's something you should take into account. The East side has the cities of Lihue and Kapa'a, alone with countless hotels and resorts. This area isn't as beautiful and the North or South side.

When choosing an area also consider how far it is to your chosen activities, not just the weather, For example, it takes about an hour from the Grand Hyatt to Waimea Canyon, but over two hours from the St. Regis.  On the other hand the St. Regis is much closer to north shore activities.

Here are some places that are discussed in this thread:

NameAreaMore InfoComments
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Grand Hyatt KauaiSouth sideWebsiteGenerally considered to be the top hotel on Kauai, and countless DDF'ers have stayed there. The weather is perfect year-round, it's right by Poipu beach, and you drive through an awesome tree tunnel to get there. There are countless pools and exotic birds all around.
St. Regis PrincevilleNorth sideWebsiteAnother beautiful hotel, this is an SPG category 7. The setting of the SRP is absolutely breathtaking, with the ocean crashing on the cliffs below and the waterfall-filled mountains in the background. The views from the rooms are unparalleled, but most rooms have no balconies.
Westin Princeville Ocean Resort Villas North sideWebsiteSPG category 6.
Sheraton Kauai Resort South sideWebsiteSPG category 5.
"Get your own place"AnywhereWebsiteThere are countless condos, timeshares, or villas available to rent on the island. The advantages are that you get more for your money - a couple of bedrooms, living/dining rooms, and a full kitchen. There will usually be a pool, sometimes even a private one. Additionally, they're often cheaper than a hotel. There are many places to find them -
 HomeAway Kauai
VRBO Kauai
Airbnb Kauai, etc.


What to do:

Beaches:
There are countless beaches on Kauai, and all are public. Most offer amazing snorkeling. The East and South side beaches are safe for swimming / snorkeling year round, while some North and West beaches could be deadly in winter. Here are some popular ones, in no particular order:

NameAreaComments
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PoipuSouth sideThis beach is right by the GHK. Full amenities (lifeguard, showers, etc.). Snorkeling is amazing here, especially in the morning. Sea turtles and the critically endangered Hawaiian monk seal are commonly seen here. Gorgeous sunsets.
Ke'eNorth sideThis beach is the gateway to the famous Kalalau Trail. The view from here is amazing, looking out over the majestic Na Pali cliffs. Great snorkeling, with a large fringing reef. This beach could be deadly winter, when 20-foot waves crash onto shore. However, at times it's perfectly calm. Use common sense. The beach is part of Hāʻena State Park
TunnelsNorth sideBeautiful crescent beach, with a lovely view of "Puff the Magic Dragon" mountain. Great snorkeling, and beautiful sunrises. May be dangerous in winter.
LumahaiNorth sideVery pretty beach, where they filmed South Pacific. Extremely dangerous winter.
PolihaleWest side17 solid miles of uninterrupted sand. Fairly remote, and accessible only via dirt and sand road, so 4WD is preferred. Unswimmable most of the year, but the area called Queens Pond is safe all year round. Since it's so huge, you could easily find a secluded spot. Great view of the south side of Na Pali, with amazing sunsets.
Queen's BathNorth sideThis is a rocky beach by the cliffs under Princeville. Very cool during the summer, when you could swim in a rock pool with the fish, but absolutely deadly during the winter (people die there all the time).
KalalauNorth sideOne of the most beautiful beaches in the entire world. Unfortunately, it's only accessible via one of the most difficult and most dangerous hikes in the world, the Kalalau Trail.
HonopūNorth sideAnother one of the top ten beaches in the world. The only way to get there is by swimming - from Kalalau beach :o!
Hanalei BayNorth sideA beautiful crescent beach with wonderful views. Mediocre snorkeling, but safe even in the winter. Very predictable waves, so this is the top spot for learning to surf or paddle. Breathtaking sunrises and sunsets.
SecretNorth sideRelatively secluded beach, and needs a bit of a hike to get there.
LydgateEast sideA fully protected beach, with pretty good snorkeling. Great for little kids, but is usually very busy.
NawiliwiliEast sideBoring beach, but the park of the the side is a nice place to stop for lunch and watch the kitesurfers.
Kapa'aEast sideAnother relatively boring beach, but a nice place to have lunch if you're in Kapa'a.


Hiking:
There are a tremendous amount of great hikes on Kauai. Check the Kauai Revealed book for detailed info on all of them, with maps, difficulty ratings, etc. These are just a few which are discussed in this thread:

NameAreaComments
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Hike 1Area 1Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.
Hike 2Area 2Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.


Other activities:

ActivityComments
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Helicopter toursEasily the most expensive activity on Kauai, and easily the most amazing. You get to see otherwise inaccessible places - among others, you fly into Waimea Canyon, along the stunning Na Pali coast, and into the crater of the extinct Mount Waiʻaleʻale, now the wettest place on earth. It's an experience that could simply not be matched. Blue Hawaiian is the most popular and usually recommended. Jack Harter also flies amazing doors-off tours, which are wet, windy, and exhilirating :D.
Powered hang glidingThis is a unique flight lesson (counts a flying time for a pilot's license) in what's basically a motorized tricycle with wings. Supposed to be tremendous fun. Offered by Birds in Paradise.
Waimea CanyonLorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.
Kalalau Valley overlookLorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.
Hanalei Valley overlook
Kayaking
Biking
ATVing
Horseback riding
Ziplining
Cruises
4 Wheel Driving


Shopping:
  • Costco in Lihue has some kosher food, as well as the cheapest gas on the island
  • Wal-Mart, also in Lihue, also has some kosher food

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #560 on: February 12, 2013, 03:39:25 PM »
The Schustermans
I personally was never there, but I happen to know them a little and that was my understanding.

That's the problem! The Schustermans are on Maui not Kauai.

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #561 on: February 12, 2013, 03:42:47 PM »
I personally was never there, but I happen to know them a little and that was my understanding.
on kaui its the goldmans and they are not there the whole year. only certain times of the year. i know this first hand

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #562 on: February 12, 2013, 03:42:58 PM »
Any advice whether to stay north in St. regis? or stay south near hyatt and Sheraton?

Ur going to Kauai for 3 days. Look at a map and you would realize it is foolish to stay anywhere but Poipu. You will waste too much time driving if you stay up north. It will cost you an extra 2+ hours almost every day. Getting to Waimea canyon from the north (pass by Poipu). Finding deserted beach out west (pass by Poipu). Going to stock up at Costco/Walmart pass by Poipu. Easy choice in my opinion.

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #563 on: February 12, 2013, 04:27:22 PM »
That's the problem! The Schustermans are on Maui not Kauai.
Whoops you're right. my bad.

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #564 on: February 18, 2013, 01:46:46 AM »
At the Grand Hyatt! Thanks to all on this forum for all the great ideas!

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #565 on: February 18, 2013, 02:20:04 PM »
At the Grand Hyatt! Thanks to all on this forum for all the great ideas!
Enjoy! looking forward  to your TR.

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #566 on: April 10, 2013, 03:21:38 AM »
Just checked into a stunning villa 2 room, fully loaded kitchen suite at the westin princeville. Its gorgeous down here!

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #567 on: April 10, 2013, 09:39:42 AM »
Just checked into a stunning villa 2 room, fully loaded kitchen suite at the westin princeville. Its gorgeous down here!

Nice! Enjoy :)

And take some pics to share!
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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #568 on: April 21, 2013, 11:13:20 PM »
So just came back to Kauai thanks to all your recomendations! It was an amazing trip. One that cannot be described.

Here is a brief TR of what we did, let me know if you have any questions about anything. I'd love to explain.

Monday:
Hawaiin Airlines direct flight from JFK to HNL. Annoying that they don't serve Kosher but a pretty comfortable flight. We paid $186 for a direct one way ticket. Believe it or not we met Yudi from Oahu Kosher on our flight with his family so we got his info and arranged to pick up Shabbos food from him for Shabbos. All the food was really good and he was a pleasure to deal with.

Stayed in the Ohana East. Pretty gross hotel but we were only there to crash for the night so it did it's job, got it for $110 on Priceline.

Tuesday:
Chilled out in HNL for the day. Went on a hop on hop off tour bus - well worth it if you are there for a short time to see the neighborhood. Checked out the Wakiki beach for sunrise. Really nice but crowded.
Took an afternoon flight to Kauai, 25 minute flight. A breeze after the 10 hour flight. Gorgeous views of the island already on the way down.

Rented a car with avis. Smooth pickup, had it waiting for us. Free GPS built in the car, did not expect that. Drove straight to Walmart to pick up kosher food and snorkels. $12 snorkels really did the job well. Drove Straight up north to the Sherating Princeville. We had booked it cash and points before the category went up. They offered us a suite upgrade for $75 more a night and we took it. Gorgeous 2 room suite with a full kitchen (fridge/freezer, oven microwave, washer dryer...), jacuzzi, 2 sink bathroom, with a partial ocean view. Beautiful hotel grounds. Love the fires that they light at night around the hotel. Really nice grounds. All the staff was extremely nice. We did not like the fact that there were roosters calling all through the morning and afternoon. Not fun, when you need a nap. :-) We did not appreciate all the extra hidden charges that came up on our bill, like for $13 parking charge each night, charged for drinking water in our room!, and random taxes.
 
Up North we did: My husband did the 4 mile hike into the Koloa trail starting at key beach to the falls started 7 am to 11 am (gorgeous views of the coast he said a must do) we went swimming in Queens Bath (amazing experience, a guy was there jumping off the edge of the cliffs for fun), checked out the view to the lighthouse, ), found a secluded beach by the Anini Beach, local shopping around the cities and just enjoyed the amazing weather, views and ocean.

In the east we did: kayaking to the secret falls (amazing experience to kayak on such a beautiful river), walimea falls (just beautiful), and helicopters with island helicopters (amazing experience, a little nauseating to be on a helicopter for the first time, they only charge $175 on thursdays, well worth it, floor to ceiling windows)

Drove down from the north to the south and stopped off in the east to do kayaking and helicopters. We kept 2 days of shabbos, friday was just D'rabanans so we were able to go swimming and ask direct favors from hotel workers.

We actually returned our avis car on thursday afternoon by driving up to the valet and telling them to return the car and rerented a new car from them starting sunday to return to the airport. Did not have to pay for the extra 2 days of shabbos.

The Grand Hyatt is magnificent, we really enjoyed the pools and the deluxe complete oceanview room we got for completely free. Signing up with 2 chase credit cards and joining the nights when we checked into the hotel. No big deal. 4 nights that go for $500 a night rooms for free. Thanks to all of you! We really took advantage of the club lounge and asked them for kosher soy milk with our cereal, cream cheese and o.j.

Down South we did: Mahaeulapu Trail to the Sinkhole (did not appreciate the dirt road to get there), sprouting horn (pretty amazing), snorkling in Poipu Beach (snorkeled with gorgeous fish, sea turtles, and saw 2 sea monks sleeping on the beach, one of the best things we did!), checked out the local shops and stores, drove to the waimea canyon (gorgeous views, but we went up pretty late so when we drove down the sun had already set, a little scary to drive down that mountain)

Left to the airport monday morning, returned the rental car in the airport. Got on our connecting flight from Kauai to HNL to JFK. 20,000 miles total per ticket. We used our platinum card for all our luggage purchases both ways and in flight purchases! All of those credits have already posted to our account.

All in all you can't describe such an amazing trip, definitely an experience that we will never forget.

Hope you enjoyed. I have over 200 pix in case anyone wants to see :-)

 

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #569 on: April 21, 2013, 11:16:36 PM »
So just came back to Kauai thanks to all your recomendations! It was an amazing trip. One that cannot be described.

Here is a brief TR of what we did, let me know if you have any questions about anything. I'd love to explain.

Monday:
Hawaiin Airlines direct flight from JFK to HNL. Annoying that they don't serve Kosher but a pretty comfortable flight. We paid $186 for a direct one way ticket. Believe it or not we met Yudi from Oahu Kosher on our flight with his family so we got his info and arranged to pick up Shabbos food from him for Shabbos. All the food was really good and he was a pleasure to deal with.

Stayed in the Ohana East. Pretty gross hotel but we were only there to crash for the night so it did it's job, got it for $110 on Priceline.

Tuesday:
Chilled out in HNL for the day. Went on a hop on hop off tour bus - well worth it if you are there for a short time to see the neighborhood. Checked out the Wakiki beach for sunrise. Really nice but crowded.
Took an afternoon flight to Kauai, 25 minute flight. A breeze after the 10 hour flight. Gorgeous views of the island already on the way down.

Rented a car with avis. Smooth pickup, had it waiting for us. Free GPS built in the car, did not expect that. Drove straight to Walmart to pick up kosher food and snorkels. $12 snorkels really did the job well. Drove Straight up north to the Sherating Princeville. We had booked it cash and points before the category went up. They offered us a suite upgrade for $75 more a night and we took it. Gorgeous 2 room suite with a full kitchen (fridge/freezer, oven microwave, washer dryer...), jacuzzi, 2 sink bathroom, with a partial ocean view. Beautiful hotel grounds. Love the fires that they light at night around the hotel. Really nice grounds. All the staff was extremely nice. We did not like the fact that there were roosters calling all through the morning and afternoon. Not fun, when you need a nap. :-) We did not appreciate all the extra hidden charges that came up on our bill, like for $13 parking charge each night, charged for drinking water in our room!, and random taxes.
 
Up North we did: My husband did the 4 mile hike into the Koloa trail starting at key beach to the falls started 7 am to 11 am (gorgeous views of the coast he said a must do) we went swimming in Queens Bath (amazing experience, a guy was there jumping off the edge of the cliffs for fun), checked out the view to the lighthouse, ), found a secluded beach by the Anini Beach, local shopping around the cities and just enjoyed the amazing weather, views and ocean.

In the east we did: kayaking to the secret falls (amazing experience to kayak on such a beautiful river), walimea falls (just beautiful), and helicopters with island helicopters (amazing experience, a little nauseating to be on a helicopter for the first time, they only charge $175 on thursdays, well worth it, floor to ceiling windows)

Drove down from the north to the south and stopped off in the east to do kayaking and helicopters. We kept 2 days of shabbos, friday was just D'rabanans so we were able to go swimming and ask direct favors from hotel workers.

We actually returned our avis car on thursday afternoon by driving up to the valet and telling them to return the car and rerented a new car from them starting sunday to return to the airport. Did not have to pay for the extra 2 days of shabbos.

The Grand Hyatt is magnificent, we really enjoyed the pools and the deluxe complete oceanview room we got for completely free. Signing up with 2 chase credit cards and joining the nights when we checked into the hotel. No big deal. 4 nights that go for $500 a night rooms for free. Thanks to all of you! We really took advantage of the club lounge and asked them for kosher soy milk with our cereal, cream cheese and o.j.

Down South we did: Mahaeulapu Trail to the Sinkhole (did not appreciate the dirt road to get there), sprouting horn (pretty amazing), snorkling in Poipu Beach (snorkeled with gorgeous fish, sea turtles, and saw 2 sea monks sleeping on the beach, one of the best things we did!), checked out the local shops and stores, drove to the waimea canyon (gorgeous views, but we went up pretty late so when we drove down the sun had already set, a little scary to drive down that mountain)

Left to the airport monday morning, returned the rental car in the airport. Got on our connecting flight from Kauai to HNL to JFK. 20,000 miles total per ticket. We used our platinum card for all our luggage purchases both ways and in flight purchases! All of those credits have already posted to our account.

All in all you can't describe such an amazing trip, definitely an experience that we will never forget.

Hope you enjoyed. I have over 200 pix in case anyone wants to see :-)

Nice TR! Always great to hear of another person who got to enjoy the island in an affordable way.
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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #570 on: April 21, 2013, 11:56:37 PM »
Hawaiin Airlines direct flight from JFK to HNL. We paid $186 for a direct one way ticket.
Got on our connecting flight from Kauai to HNL to JFK. 20,000 miles total per ticket.

Lucky you. We're dying to go back in June and the cheapest RT is $1100+, and zero award availability  :(

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #571 on: May 31, 2013, 07:36:44 PM »
Just got this from the library, stunning pictures!
http://www.amazon.com/dp/0971727988/?tag=cl03f-20

Makes me want to spend a year there to check out all the places.
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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #572 on: June 02, 2013, 02:50:43 AM »
Has anyone stayed at the Sheraton Kauai recently? How are they with platinum upgrades? I would prefer staying at the Hyatt but I am not sure if its worth the additional points.

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #573 on: June 02, 2013, 06:29:41 AM »
Has anyone stayed at the Sheraton Kauai recently? How are they with platinum upgrades? I would prefer staying at the Hyatt but I am not sure if its worth the additional points.

You've been traveling too much this summer!! Stay away from Kauai

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #574 on: June 02, 2013, 09:08:06 AM »
You've been traveling too much this summer!! Stay away from Kauai
Thank you for the suggestion.

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #575 on: June 02, 2013, 09:52:18 AM »
Thank you for the suggestion.

Just because you're a mileage oligarch doesn't mean you need to go to Hawaii every 3 months

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #576 on: June 07, 2013, 03:21:06 AM »
Dan mentioned "Kauai Revealed" back in 2010. Is it still the "go to" book or is there a better one?
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« Reply #577 on: June 07, 2013, 07:23:51 AM »
Dan mentioned "Kauai Revealed" back in 2010. Is it still the "go to" book or is there a better one?

Still the one. And there's an app as well.
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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #578 on: June 07, 2013, 07:49:25 AM »
Still the one. And there's an app as well.
Same name?
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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #579 on: June 07, 2013, 07:51:17 AM »
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