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Before you go:

How long should I go for?
You could spend 10 years on Kauai and not get your fill. That being said, the bare minimum to enjoy your stay is 4 days on the ground. A week is ideal.

It's possible to do a short trip by leaving early Sunday morning, getting there in the afternoon, and then leaving Thursday night and being back home for shabbos.

Do I need a guide book?
Very definitely. Sure you could find most info online, but nothing compares to a good, written-by-a-local, guide book. Kauai Revealed is by far the best option, and will possibly be the best $16 you spent on your trip.

What about Shabbos?
Some authorities hold that there's a dateline issue with Shabbos.
The local communities keep shabbos on Saturday.
Definitely ask your LOR before you go - some hold simply that Shabbos is on Saturday, some hold that you have to keep Shabbos on both Friday and Saturday, and some hold that you have to keep D'oreisas on Friday and full Shabbos on Saturday.

If you must keep 2 days, remember that there are many questions that could come up (such as when to light Shabbos candles, how to warm up food, etc.), so make sure to discuss it all with your LOR.

There have been books written about the Chabad opinion of keeping shabbos only on Saturday. Rabbi Aharon Dovid Gancz gives an absolutely fascinating pilpul on the topic, if you get a chance to attend one please record it (with permission) and upload the video online.


Getting there and getting around:

Air:
The main airport is in Lihue, and is designated LIH.
You could fly directly from the mainland to LIH from
DEN (UA)
LAX (AA, DL, HA, UA)
OAK (AS, HA)
SAN (AS)
SEA (AS)
SFO (UA)
SJC (AS)
PDX (AS)
PHX (US)
YVR (WestJet)

There are no direct flights from the East coast, so you will stop in one of these cities.
Alternately, you could fly directly to Honolulu (HNL) and continue to LIH from there.

Hawaiian, Go, and Island Air fly interisland to LIH from HNL and OGG. There are no direct flights between LIH and the Big Island (ITO/KOA).

You can also use 5K AA or, 6k UA, or 7.5k HA miles each way to fly interisland. United allows a free stopover on a round-trip, so for instance you can fly HNL-LIH-OGG-HNL for just 12K miles.

Car:
A car is necessary on Kauai. All major companies have branches, mostly at the airport. There are also some local companies.

National has Executive Aisle/Selection at the airport, but Hertz doesn't have Gold Choice. Avis also has a desk at the Grand Hyatt Kauai. Check out www.discounthawaiicarrental.com - they book from the major brands, and are worth a try.

There's nothing like a convertible on Kauai, but a 4WD is better (sometimes even necessary) for certain places such as Polihale Beach or Milolii Ridge Road. Taking a convertible for most of your stay and a 4WD for a day or two is a good idea.


Where to stay:

There are 3 major areas where to stay. The South side is drier so good weather is more or less guaranteed. The North side is far prettier, with sheer cliffs and a backdrop of lovely green mountains. However, the weather in winter could be rainy and it can be buggy as well.
The rain typically doesn't last long, and is usually accompanied by numerous rainbows, so it's usually not too bad. However, it's something you should take into account. The East side has the cities of Lihue and Kapa'a, alone with countless hotels and resorts. This area isn't as beautiful and the North or South side.

When choosing an area also consider how far it is to your chosen activities, not just the weather, For example, it takes about an hour from the Grand Hyatt to Waimea Canyon, but over two hours from the St. Regis.  On the other hand the St. Regis is much closer to north shore activities.

Here are some places that are discussed in this thread:

NameAreaMore InfoComments
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Grand Hyatt KauaiSouth sideWebsiteGenerally considered to be the top hotel on Kauai, and countless DDF'ers have stayed there. The weather is perfect year-round, it's right by Poipu beach, and you drive through an awesome tree tunnel to get there. There are countless pools and exotic birds all around.
St. Regis PrincevilleNorth sideWebsiteAnother beautiful hotel, this is an SPG category 7. The setting of the SRP is absolutely breathtaking, with the ocean crashing on the cliffs below and the waterfall-filled mountains in the background. The views from the rooms are unparalleled, but most rooms have no balconies.
Westin Princeville Ocean Resort Villas North sideWebsiteSPG category 6.
Sheraton Kauai Resort South sideWebsiteSPG category 5.
"Get your own place"AnywhereWebsiteThere are countless condos, timeshares, or villas available to rent on the island. The advantages are that you get more for your money - a couple of bedrooms, living/dining rooms, and a full kitchen. There will usually be a pool, sometimes even a private one. Additionally, they're often cheaper than a hotel. There are many places to find them -
 HomeAway Kauai
VRBO Kauai
Airbnb Kauai, etc.


What to do:

Beaches:
There are countless beaches on Kauai, and all are public. Most offer amazing snorkeling. The East and South side beaches are safe for swimming / snorkeling year round, while some North and West beaches could be deadly in winter. Here are some popular ones, in no particular order:

NameAreaComments
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PoipuSouth sideThis beach is right by the GHK. Full amenities (lifeguard, showers, etc.). Snorkeling is amazing here, especially in the morning. Sea turtles and the critically endangered Hawaiian monk seal are commonly seen here. Gorgeous sunsets.
Ke'eNorth sideThis beach is the gateway to the famous Kalalau Trail. The view from here is amazing, looking out over the majestic Na Pali cliffs. Great snorkeling, with a large fringing reef. This beach could be deadly winter, when 20-foot waves crash onto shore. However, at times it's perfectly calm. Use common sense. The beach is part of Hāʻena State Park
TunnelsNorth sideBeautiful crescent beach, with a lovely view of "Puff the Magic Dragon" mountain. Great snorkeling, and beautiful sunrises. May be dangerous in winter.
LumahaiNorth sideVery pretty beach, where they filmed South Pacific. Extremely dangerous winter.
PolihaleWest side17 solid miles of uninterrupted sand. Fairly remote, and accessible only via dirt and sand road, so 4WD is preferred. Unswimmable most of the year, but the area called Queens Pond is safe all year round. Since it's so huge, you could easily find a secluded spot. Great view of the south side of Na Pali, with amazing sunsets.
Queen's BathNorth sideThis is a rocky beach by the cliffs under Princeville. Very cool during the summer, when you could swim in a rock pool with the fish, but absolutely deadly during the winter (people die there all the time).
KalalauNorth sideOne of the most beautiful beaches in the entire world. Unfortunately, it's only accessible via one of the most difficult and most dangerous hikes in the world, the Kalalau Trail.
HonopūNorth sideAnother one of the top ten beaches in the world. The only way to get there is by swimming - from Kalalau beach :o!
Hanalei BayNorth sideA beautiful crescent beach with wonderful views. Mediocre snorkeling, but safe even in the winter. Very predictable waves, so this is the top spot for learning to surf or paddle. Breathtaking sunrises and sunsets.
SecretNorth sideRelatively secluded beach, and needs a bit of a hike to get there.
LydgateEast sideA fully protected beach, with pretty good snorkeling. Great for little kids, but is usually very busy.
NawiliwiliEast sideBoring beach, but the park of the the side is a nice place to stop for lunch and watch the kitesurfers.
Kapa'aEast sideAnother relatively boring beach, but a nice place to have lunch if you're in Kapa'a.


Hiking:
There are a tremendous amount of great hikes on Kauai. Check the Kauai Revealed book for detailed info on all of them, with maps, difficulty ratings, etc. These are just a few which are discussed in this thread:

NameAreaComments
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Hike 1Area 1Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.
Hike 2Area 2Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.


Other activities:

ActivityComments
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Helicopter toursEasily the most expensive activity on Kauai, and easily the most amazing. You get to see otherwise inaccessible places - among others, you fly into Waimea Canyon, along the stunning Na Pali coast, and into the crater of the extinct Mount Waiʻaleʻale, now the wettest place on earth. It's an experience that could simply not be matched. Blue Hawaiian is the most popular and usually recommended. Jack Harter also flies amazing doors-off tours, which are wet, windy, and exhilirating :D.
Powered hang glidingThis is a unique flight lesson (counts a flying time for a pilot's license) in what's basically a motorized tricycle with wings. Supposed to be tremendous fun. Offered by Birds in Paradise.
Waimea CanyonLorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.
Kalalau Valley overlookLorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.
Hanalei Valley overlook
Kayaking
Biking
ATVing
Horseback riding
Ziplining
Cruises
4 Wheel Driving


Shopping:
  • Costco in Lihue has some kosher food, as well as the cheapest gas on the island
  • Wal-Mart, also in Lihue, also has some kosher food

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #780 on: January 14, 2014, 04:19:12 PM »
Not nearly as great with a 1 year old.  Not gonna be an eruv.
What other hotels over there would be a better option?

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #781 on: January 14, 2014, 09:50:58 PM »

Not nearly as great with a 1 year old.  Not gonna be an eruv.

Yea I left the kids with the folks.

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #782 on: January 14, 2014, 09:52:06 PM »

Thanks. No issues with doors, electronics, sensors?

You might want to try to get a ground floor room so you can leave the back door open so you can get in and out. We left the porch door open a little the whole shab to avoid sensor issues.

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Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
« Reply #783 on: January 15, 2014, 05:41:45 PM »
What about if we went to LIH for 5 nights including Shabbos and spent 2 days on Oahu instead?
I'd much rather spend time in Kauai than Oahu, especially if we can split our time between St Regis and GHK.
Booked 2 nights at the St Regis and 3 nights at GHK. :D

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Re: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
« Reply #784 on: January 15, 2014, 06:07:39 PM »
Booked 2 nights at the St Regis and 3 nights at GHK. :D
How did you book the St Regis did you get a good rate, or you paid 30k points a night?

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Re: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
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How did you book the St Regis did you get a good rate, or you paid 30k points a night?
$250 a night.

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Re: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
« Reply #786 on: January 15, 2014, 07:04:22 PM »
$250 a night.
Excellent price.
At that rate why bother with the hassle of changing hotels?
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Re: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
« Reply #787 on: January 15, 2014, 07:09:00 PM »
Excellent price.
At that rate why bother with the hassle of changing hotels?
Wanted to try both ;)

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Re: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
« Reply #788 on: January 15, 2014, 07:25:34 PM »
I hear ya but that's a real hassle with an infant and you kill a nice chunk of a precious day in Hawaii packing like that.

I'd really advise sticking with just one.  You'll want to come back again, trust me. And then you can try the other.

Both hotels are phenomenal.
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Re: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
« Reply #789 on: January 15, 2014, 07:59:27 PM »
Very good points.
So which one is better?
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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #790 on: January 15, 2014, 10:43:46 PM »
Can anyone recommend a good hiking trip with a group and guide?
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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #791 on: January 15, 2014, 10:44:36 PM »
Can anyone recommend a good hiking trip with a group and guide?
Why would you want to hike with a group?
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Why would you want to hike with a group?
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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #793 on: January 15, 2014, 11:06:55 PM »
It's for two older folks not experienced with hiking but in pretty good shape.
They'd like to go with a guide and preferably a waterfall hike.
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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #794 on: January 16, 2014, 08:01:05 AM »
Have 9 nts reserved at the GHK but only the last 3 had availability for a suite. I'm going to be going with 2 kids and do not want to be coupled up in a standard room. Should I take the chance that I will be upgraded at check-in? I'm a diamond member and this is down for 07/06 so still have time. I'm just guessing that it's right after 07/04 and they may be actually booked by other folks and won't ever become available.

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #795 on: January 16, 2014, 06:32:27 PM »
Have 9 nts reserved at the GHK but only the last 3 had availability for a suite. I'm going to be going with 2 kids and do not want to be coupled up in a standard room. Should I take the chance that I will be upgraded at check-in? I'm a diamond member and this is down for 07/06 so still have time. I'm just guessing that it's right after 07/04 and they may be actually booked by other folks and won't ever become available.

Should I look into a Condo?

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
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Why stay 9 nights in Kauai? Why not head over to the BI for a couple of days to see the volcano and Mauna Kea?
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« Reply #797 on: January 16, 2014, 06:52:27 PM »
Why stay 9 nights in Kauai? Why not head over to the BI for a couple of days to see the volcano and Mauna Kea?
2 kids?

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« Reply #798 on: January 16, 2014, 06:54:06 PM »
2 kids?

You could still go up till the MK visitor's center, and the volcano is no problem.
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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #799 on: January 16, 2014, 07:36:17 PM »
You could still go up till the MK visitor's center, and the volcano is no problem.
Dont like the lack of hotel options though.

Anyone here stay in a nice condo/villa on Kauai?