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Related DDF Threads:
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Before you go:

How long should I go for?
You could spend 10 years on Kauai and not get your fill. That being said, the bare minimum to enjoy your stay is 4 days on the ground. A week is ideal.

It's possible to do a short trip by leaving early Sunday morning, getting there in the afternoon, and then leaving Thursday night and being back home for shabbos.

Do I need a guide book?
Very definitely. Sure you could find most info online, but nothing compares to a good, written-by-a-local, guide book. Kauai Revealed is by far the best option, and will possibly be the best $16 you spent on your trip.

What about Shabbos?
Some authorities hold that there's a dateline issue with Shabbos.
The local communities keep shabbos on Saturday.
Definitely ask your LOR before you go - some hold simply that Shabbos is on Saturday, some hold that you have to keep Shabbos on both Friday and Saturday, and some hold that you have to keep D'oreisas on Friday and full Shabbos on Saturday.

If you must keep 2 days, remember that there are many questions that could come up (such as when to light Shabbos candles, how to warm up food, etc.), so make sure to discuss it all with your LOR.

There have been books written about the Chabad opinion of keeping shabbos only on Saturday. Rabbi Aharon Dovid Gancz gives an absolutely fascinating pilpul on the topic, if you get a chance to attend one please record it (with permission) and upload the video online.


Getting there and getting around:

Air:
The main airport is in Lihue, and is designated LIH.
You could fly directly from the mainland to LIH from
DEN (UA)
LAX (AA, DL, HA, UA)
OAK (AS, HA)
SAN (AS)
SEA (AS)
SFO (UA)
SJC (AS)
PDX (AS)
PHX (US)
YVR (WestJet)

There are no direct flights from the East coast, so you will stop in one of these cities.
Alternately, you could fly directly to Honolulu (HNL) and continue to LIH from there.

Hawaiian, Go, and Island Air fly interisland to LIH from HNL and OGG. There are no direct flights between LIH and the Big Island (ITO/KOA).

You can also use 5K AA or, 6k UA, or 7.5k HA miles each way to fly interisland. United allows a free stopover on a round-trip, so for instance you can fly HNL-LIH-OGG-HNL for just 12K miles.

Car:
A car is necessary on Kauai. All major companies have branches, mostly at the airport. There are also some local companies.

National has Executive Aisle/Selection at the airport, but Hertz doesn't have Gold Choice. Avis also has a desk at the Grand Hyatt Kauai. Check out www.discounthawaiicarrental.com - they book from the major brands, and are worth a try.

There's nothing like a convertible on Kauai, but a 4WD is better (sometimes even necessary) for certain places such as Polihale Beach or Milolii Ridge Road. Taking a convertible for most of your stay and a 4WD for a day or two is a good idea.


Where to stay:

There are 3 major areas where to stay. The South side is drier so good weather is more or less guaranteed. The North side is far prettier, with sheer cliffs and a backdrop of lovely green mountains. However, the weather in winter could be rainy and it can be buggy as well.
The rain typically doesn't last long, and is usually accompanied by numerous rainbows, so it's usually not too bad. However, it's something you should take into account. The East side has the cities of Lihue and Kapa'a, alone with countless hotels and resorts. This area isn't as beautiful and the North or South side.

When choosing an area also consider how far it is to your chosen activities, not just the weather, For example, it takes about an hour from the Grand Hyatt to Waimea Canyon, but over two hours from the St. Regis.  On the other hand the St. Regis is much closer to north shore activities.

Here are some places that are discussed in this thread:

NameAreaMore InfoComments
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Grand Hyatt KauaiSouth sideWebsiteGenerally considered to be the top hotel on Kauai, and countless DDF'ers have stayed there. The weather is perfect year-round, it's right by Poipu beach, and you drive through an awesome tree tunnel to get there. There are countless pools and exotic birds all around.
St. Regis PrincevilleNorth sideWebsiteAnother beautiful hotel, this is an SPG category 7. The setting of the SRP is absolutely breathtaking, with the ocean crashing on the cliffs below and the waterfall-filled mountains in the background. The views from the rooms are unparalleled, but most rooms have no balconies.
Westin Princeville Ocean Resort Villas North sideWebsiteSPG category 6.
Sheraton Kauai Resort South sideWebsiteSPG category 5.
"Get your own place"AnywhereWebsiteThere are countless condos, timeshares, or villas available to rent on the island. The advantages are that you get more for your money - a couple of bedrooms, living/dining rooms, and a full kitchen. There will usually be a pool, sometimes even a private one. Additionally, they're often cheaper than a hotel. There are many places to find them -
 HomeAway Kauai
VRBO Kauai
Airbnb Kauai, etc.


What to do:

Beaches:
There are countless beaches on Kauai, and all are public. Most offer amazing snorkeling. The East and South side beaches are safe for swimming / snorkeling year round, while some North and West beaches could be deadly in winter. Here are some popular ones, in no particular order:

NameAreaComments
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PoipuSouth sideThis beach is right by the GHK. Full amenities (lifeguard, showers, etc.). Snorkeling is amazing here, especially in the morning. Sea turtles and the critically endangered Hawaiian monk seal are commonly seen here. Gorgeous sunsets.
Ke'eNorth sideThis beach is the gateway to the famous Kalalau Trail. The view from here is amazing, looking out over the majestic Na Pali cliffs. Great snorkeling, with a large fringing reef. This beach could be deadly winter, when 20-foot waves crash onto shore. However, at times it's perfectly calm. Use common sense. The beach is part of Hāʻena State Park
TunnelsNorth sideBeautiful crescent beach, with a lovely view of "Puff the Magic Dragon" mountain. Great snorkeling, and beautiful sunrises. May be dangerous in winter.
LumahaiNorth sideVery pretty beach, where they filmed South Pacific. Extremely dangerous winter.
PolihaleWest side17 solid miles of uninterrupted sand. Fairly remote, and accessible only via dirt and sand road, so 4WD is preferred. Unswimmable most of the year, but the area called Queens Pond is safe all year round. Since it's so huge, you could easily find a secluded spot. Great view of the south side of Na Pali, with amazing sunsets.
Queen's BathNorth sideThis is a rocky beach by the cliffs under Princeville. Very cool during the summer, when you could swim in a rock pool with the fish, but absolutely deadly during the winter (people die there all the time).
KalalauNorth sideOne of the most beautiful beaches in the entire world. Unfortunately, it's only accessible via one of the most difficult and most dangerous hikes in the world, the Kalalau Trail.
HonopūNorth sideAnother one of the top ten beaches in the world. The only way to get there is by swimming - from Kalalau beach :o!
Hanalei BayNorth sideA beautiful crescent beach with wonderful views. Mediocre snorkeling, but safe even in the winter. Very predictable waves, so this is the top spot for learning to surf or paddle. Breathtaking sunrises and sunsets.
SecretNorth sideRelatively secluded beach, and needs a bit of a hike to get there.
LydgateEast sideA fully protected beach, with pretty good snorkeling. Great for little kids, but is usually very busy.
NawiliwiliEast sideBoring beach, but the park of the the side is a nice place to stop for lunch and watch the kitesurfers.
Kapa'aEast sideAnother relatively boring beach, but a nice place to have lunch if you're in Kapa'a.


Hiking:
There are a tremendous amount of great hikes on Kauai. Check the Kauai Revealed book for detailed info on all of them, with maps, difficulty ratings, etc. These are just a few which are discussed in this thread:

NameAreaComments
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Hike 1Area 1Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.
Hike 2Area 2Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.


Other activities:

ActivityComments
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Helicopter toursEasily the most expensive activity on Kauai, and easily the most amazing. You get to see otherwise inaccessible places - among others, you fly into Waimea Canyon, along the stunning Na Pali coast, and into the crater of the extinct Mount Waiʻaleʻale, now the wettest place on earth. It's an experience that could simply not be matched. Blue Hawaiian is the most popular and usually recommended. Jack Harter also flies amazing doors-off tours, which are wet, windy, and exhilirating :D.
Powered hang glidingThis is a unique flight lesson (counts a flying time for a pilot's license) in what's basically a motorized tricycle with wings. Supposed to be tremendous fun. Offered by Birds in Paradise.
Waimea CanyonLorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.
Kalalau Valley overlookLorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.
Hanalei Valley overlook
Kayaking
Biking
ATVing
Horseback riding
Ziplining
Cruises
4 Wheel Driving


Shopping:
  • Costco in Lihue has some kosher food, as well as the cheapest gas on the island
  • Wal-Mart, also in Lihue, also has some kosher food

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #840 on: February 10, 2014, 01:01:10 AM »
The offroading I just did in Kauai was amazing! I can try to post some videos if you'd like.

Please do! And more details would be great as well. Thanks
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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #841 on: February 10, 2014, 01:05:58 AM »
Please do! And more details would be great as well. Thanks
I'll try to upload it to drive and post a link.

Thanks. I think I'll stick with Kauai. This was more of a trip for others. And going to Maui would also end up costing quite a bit more. 
I would have loved to go whale watching.
Maybe a different day. :)
I saw many whales breaching during my helicopter tour of the island which was amazing!
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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #842 on: February 10, 2014, 08:10:04 AM »

Rain can make the Kalalau trail tricky in the winter.
Plus the ocean is rougher, not suitable for swimming.

Thanks Dan. Would you say it's not worth doing the trail now? Was planning on doing it Sunday/Monday bc the GHK is completely booked Sunday night anyways and not sure if/when well get the opportunity to do it again.

We're there from this thurs until next Thursday (thanks delta!) and this is our basic plan (experts out there please feel free to recommend any changes):

Friday - heli tour and secret falls.
Sunday/Monday - kalalau trail
Tuesday - snorkeling, bike ride, sunset somewhere
Wed - grand loop hike, polihale beach for sunset
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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #843 on: February 10, 2014, 09:13:10 AM »
Everyone's making Kauai sound so limited in the winter months.

That's the wrong way of looking at it IMHO. Kauai in the winter is one of the most amazing, beautiful, and relaxing places you could go to. It's not "limited", as if you could only enjoy a small part of it.

Of course, there's are a couple of things which are generally not very practical to do. The Kalalau Trail can be dicey in places as Dan mentioned, some north shore beaches could be dangerous, and boat tours could be more barf-inducing than awe-inspiring. But everything else - the beauty, the hiking, the entire south and west shores, etc., etc., are absolutely perfect.

Also remember that all these "facts" are generalities. We stayed on the supposedly rainy north shore in November and had absolutely glorious weather. The officially deadly (in winter) Ke'e beach was calm and smooth as a mirror and filled with swimmers and snorkelers - ditto for Tunnels beach.

If you have your heart set on a boat tour, call the company every morning and ask about conditions. You might just luck out and have a day or two with beautiful calm seas.

And that's all ignoring the fact that some things are actually nicer during the winter. The waterfalls will be pumping, Na Pali will be more green than brown, the overall weather will be more pleasant, and the south shore beaches (which have better snorkeling and diving than the north shore) will be calmer.

Limited? I think not.
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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #844 on: February 10, 2014, 09:16:56 AM »
That's the wrong way of looking at it IMHO. Kauai in the winter is one of the most amazing, beautiful, and relaxing places you could go to. It's not "limited", as if you could only enjoy a small part of it.

Of course, there's are a couple of things which are generally not very practical to do. The Kalalau Trail can be dicey in places as Dan mentioned, some north shore beaches could be dangerous, and boat tours could be more barf-inducing than awe-inspiring. But everything else - the beauty, the hiking, the entire south and west shores, etc., etc., are absolutely perfect.

Also remember that all these "facts" are generalities. We stayed on the supposedly rainy north shore in November and had absolutely glorious weather. The officially deadly (in winter) Ke'e beach was calm and smooth as a mirror and filled with swimmers and snorkelers - ditto for Tunnels beach.

If you have your heart set on a boat tour, call the company every morning and ask about conditions. You might just luck out and have a day or two with beautiful calm seas.

And that's all ignoring the fact that some things are actually nicer during the winter. The waterfalls will be pumping, Na Pali will be more green than brown, the overall weather will be more pleasant, and the south shore beaches (which have better snorkeling and diving than the north shore) will be calmer.

Limited? I think not.

Thanks. I was kind of hoping all the warnings were just things to be aware of and not the rule.   Your post made me feel better about being "stuck" in Kauai and not choosing Maui. :))
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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #845 on: February 10, 2014, 07:01:43 PM »

Hello - im staying at the Grand Hyatt, does anyone have the General Managers email?

Bump. Trying to get use suite upgrade on a diamond account to get upgraded to ocean suite and so far every rep has said they can't. Thanks!

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« Reply #846 on: February 10, 2014, 07:03:31 PM »
Bump. Trying to get use suite upgrade on a diamond account to get upgraded to ocean suite and so far every rep has said they can't. Thanks!

Call the hotel and ask for the email. Or ask to speak to the Reservation Manager maybe.
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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #847 on: February 10, 2014, 07:14:07 PM »

Call the hotel and ask for the email. Or ask to speak to the Reservation Manager maybe.

Wow, never thought they would give it out over the phone but it worked. Thanks!

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« Reply #848 on: February 10, 2014, 07:18:02 PM »
Wow, never thought they would give it out over the phone but it worked. Thanks!

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Wow, never thought they would give it out over the phone but it worked. Thanks!
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« Reply #850 on: February 10, 2014, 09:10:26 PM »
Thanks. I was kind of hoping all the warnings were just things to be aware of and not the rule.   Your post made me feel better about being "stuck" in Kauai and not choosing Maui. :))
I've been to Maui and Kauai 5 times each since 2008.
Only in the winter.  And I don't feel like I'm missing a thing.

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« Reply #851 on: February 10, 2014, 09:18:34 PM »
1 or 2 days shabbos?
wow, i didn't know this was a real thing...!... Is this a date line issue?
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wow, i didn't know this was a real thing...!... Is this a date line issue?
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« Reply #853 on: February 10, 2014, 09:27:13 PM »
wow, i didn't know this was a real thing...!... Is this a date line issue?

Check the wiki, there's some more info there.
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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #854 on: February 10, 2014, 09:30:43 PM »
My experience with the manager, can't remember name, was not great (GHK). I emailed numerous times no response. I was diamond at the time. I ended up with the garden suite which worked out great. I also got 18k points back.

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« Reply #856 on: February 10, 2014, 09:38:57 PM »

Confirmed in an ocean suite or just in a suite?

I was referring to getting the managers email... Unfortunately still no upgrade at all. Diamond line said twice already that they could only upgrade to garden suite and those are all booked. I Emailed the manager so we'll see what happens.

Is there any point in HUCA for ocean suite? Has anyone gotten confirmed upgrade straight into ocean via diamond line?

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Has anyone gotten confirmed upgrade straight into ocean via diamond line?
No.
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