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Related DDF Threads:
-Big Island Of Hawaii Master Thread
-Kauai Master Thread
-Maui Master Thread
-Oahu Master Thread


Before you go:

How long should I go for?
You could spend 10 years on Kauai and not get your fill. That being said, the bare minimum to enjoy your stay is 4 days on the ground. A week is ideal.

It's possible to do a short trip by leaving early Sunday morning, getting there in the afternoon, and then leaving Thursday night and being back home for shabbos.

Do I need a guide book?
Very definitely. Sure you could find most info online, but nothing compares to a good, written-by-a-local, guide book. Kauai Revealed is by far the best option, and will possibly be the best $16 you spent on your trip.

What about Shabbos?
Some authorities hold that there's a dateline issue with Shabbos.
The local communities keep shabbos on Saturday.
Definitely ask your LOR before you go - some hold simply that Shabbos is on Saturday, some hold that you have to keep Shabbos on both Friday and Saturday, and some hold that you have to keep D'oreisas on Friday and full Shabbos on Saturday.

If you must keep 2 days, remember that there are many questions that could come up (such as when to light Shabbos candles, how to warm up food, etc.), so make sure to discuss it all with your LOR.

There have been books written about the Chabad opinion of keeping shabbos only on Saturday. Rabbi Aharon Dovid Gancz gives an absolutely fascinating pilpul on the topic, if you get a chance to attend one please record it (with permission) and upload the video online.


Getting there and getting around:

Air:
The main airport is in Lihue, and is designated LIH.
You could fly directly from the mainland to LIH from
DEN (UA)
LAX (AA, DL, HA, UA)
OAK (AS, HA)
SAN (AS)
SEA (AS)
SFO (UA)
SJC (AS)
PDX (AS)
PHX (US)
YVR (WestJet)

There are no direct flights from the East coast, so you will stop in one of these cities.
Alternately, you could fly directly to Honolulu (HNL) and continue to LIH from there.

Hawaiian, Go, and Island Air fly interisland to LIH from HNL and OGG. There are no direct flights between LIH and the Big Island (ITO/KOA).

You can also use 5K AA or, 6k UA, or 7.5k HA miles each way to fly interisland. United allows a free stopover on a round-trip, so for instance you can fly HNL-LIH-OGG-HNL for just 12K miles.

Car:
A car is necessary on Kauai. All major companies have branches, mostly at the airport. There are also some local companies.

National has Executive Aisle/Selection at the airport, but Hertz doesn't have Gold Choice. Avis also has a desk at the Grand Hyatt Kauai. Check out www.discounthawaiicarrental.com - they book from the major brands, and are worth a try.

There's nothing like a convertible on Kauai, but a 4WD is better (sometimes even necessary) for certain places such as Polihale Beach or Milolii Ridge Road. Taking a convertible for most of your stay and a 4WD for a day or two is a good idea.


Where to stay:

There are 3 major areas where to stay. The South side is drier so good weather is more or less guaranteed. The North side is far prettier, with sheer cliffs and a backdrop of lovely green mountains. However, the weather in winter could be rainy and it can be buggy as well.
The rain typically doesn't last long, and is usually accompanied by numerous rainbows, so it's usually not too bad. However, it's something you should take into account. The East side has the cities of Lihue and Kapa'a, alone with countless hotels and resorts. This area isn't as beautiful and the North or South side.

When choosing an area also consider how far it is to your chosen activities, not just the weather, For example, it takes about an hour from the Grand Hyatt to Waimea Canyon, but over two hours from the St. Regis.  On the other hand the St. Regis is much closer to north shore activities.

Here are some places that are discussed in this thread:

NameAreaMore InfoComments
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Grand Hyatt KauaiSouth sideWebsiteGenerally considered to be the top hotel on Kauai, and countless DDF'ers have stayed there. The weather is perfect year-round, it's right by Poipu beach, and you drive through an awesome tree tunnel to get there. There are countless pools and exotic birds all around.
St. Regis PrincevilleNorth sideWebsiteAnother beautiful hotel, this is an SPG category 7. The setting of the SRP is absolutely breathtaking, with the ocean crashing on the cliffs below and the waterfall-filled mountains in the background. The views from the rooms are unparalleled, but most rooms have no balconies.
Westin Princeville Ocean Resort Villas North sideWebsiteSPG category 6.
Sheraton Kauai Resort South sideWebsiteSPG category 5.
"Get your own place"AnywhereWebsiteThere are countless condos, timeshares, or villas available to rent on the island. The advantages are that you get more for your money - a couple of bedrooms, living/dining rooms, and a full kitchen. There will usually be a pool, sometimes even a private one. Additionally, they're often cheaper than a hotel. There are many places to find them -
 HomeAway Kauai
VRBO Kauai
Airbnb Kauai, etc.


What to do:

Beaches:
There are countless beaches on Kauai, and all are public. Most offer amazing snorkeling. The East and South side beaches are safe for swimming / snorkeling year round, while some North and West beaches could be deadly in winter. Here are some popular ones, in no particular order:

NameAreaComments
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PoipuSouth sideThis beach is right by the GHK. Full amenities (lifeguard, showers, etc.). Snorkeling is amazing here, especially in the morning. Sea turtles and the critically endangered Hawaiian monk seal are commonly seen here. Gorgeous sunsets.
Ke'eNorth sideThis beach is the gateway to the famous Kalalau Trail. The view from here is amazing, looking out over the majestic Na Pali cliffs. Great snorkeling, with a large fringing reef. This beach could be deadly winter, when 20-foot waves crash onto shore. However, at times it's perfectly calm. Use common sense. The beach is part of Hāʻena State Park
TunnelsNorth sideBeautiful crescent beach, with a lovely view of "Puff the Magic Dragon" mountain. Great snorkeling, and beautiful sunrises. May be dangerous in winter.
LumahaiNorth sideVery pretty beach, where they filmed South Pacific. Extremely dangerous winter.
PolihaleWest side17 solid miles of uninterrupted sand. Fairly remote, and accessible only via dirt and sand road, so 4WD is preferred. Unswimmable most of the year, but the area called Queens Pond is safe all year round. Since it's so huge, you could easily find a secluded spot. Great view of the south side of Na Pali, with amazing sunsets.
Queen's BathNorth sideThis is a rocky beach by the cliffs under Princeville. Very cool during the summer, when you could swim in a rock pool with the fish, but absolutely deadly during the winter (people die there all the time).
KalalauNorth sideOne of the most beautiful beaches in the entire world. Unfortunately, it's only accessible via one of the most difficult and most dangerous hikes in the world, the Kalalau Trail.
HonopūNorth sideAnother one of the top ten beaches in the world. The only way to get there is by swimming - from Kalalau beach :o!
Hanalei BayNorth sideA beautiful crescent beach with wonderful views. Mediocre snorkeling, but safe even in the winter. Very predictable waves, so this is the top spot for learning to surf or paddle. Breathtaking sunrises and sunsets.
SecretNorth sideRelatively secluded beach, and needs a bit of a hike to get there.
LydgateEast sideA fully protected beach, with pretty good snorkeling. Great for little kids, but is usually very busy.
NawiliwiliEast sideBoring beach, but the park of the the side is a nice place to stop for lunch and watch the kitesurfers.
Kapa'aEast sideAnother relatively boring beach, but a nice place to have lunch if you're in Kapa'a.


Hiking:
There are a tremendous amount of great hikes on Kauai. Check the Kauai Revealed book for detailed info on all of them, with maps, difficulty ratings, etc. These are just a few which are discussed in this thread:

NameAreaComments
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Hike 1Area 1Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.
Hike 2Area 2Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.


Other activities:

ActivityComments
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Helicopter toursEasily the most expensive activity on Kauai, and easily the most amazing. You get to see otherwise inaccessible places - among others, you fly into Waimea Canyon, along the stunning Na Pali coast, and into the crater of the extinct Mount Waiʻaleʻale, now the wettest place on earth. It's an experience that could simply not be matched. Blue Hawaiian is the most popular and usually recommended. Jack Harter also flies amazing doors-off tours, which are wet, windy, and exhilirating :D.
Powered hang glidingThis is a unique flight lesson (counts a flying time for a pilot's license) in what's basically a motorized tricycle with wings. Supposed to be tremendous fun. Offered by Birds in Paradise.
Waimea CanyonLorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.
Kalalau Valley overlookLorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.
Hanalei Valley overlook
Kayaking
Biking
ATVing
Horseback riding
Ziplining
Cruises
4 Wheel Driving


Shopping:
  • Costco in Lihue has some kosher food, as well as the cheapest gas on the island
  • Wal-Mart, also in Lihue, also has some kosher food

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #1100 on: August 18, 2014, 01:45:45 PM »
Sitting on the beach in LA when you live 10 minutes away and can be called home any minute isn't nearly as relaxing as sitting on a beach on an island where no one's bothering you since you're "on vacation."
Obviously I intend to do a whole lot more than that in Kauai (as per my itin planning above) but a vacation HAS to include some relaxing time IMHO.
Oh, relaxing on vacation is great, just not as the entire trip! Wasn't a comment on your plan at all obviously, just heard so many people who want to go just to chill on the beach.

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #1101 on: August 19, 2014, 01:13:18 PM »
Checking in to Grand Hyatt tonight, is there anyway to get gold status?

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #1102 on: August 19, 2014, 01:17:17 PM »
Checking in to Grand Hyatt tonight, is there anyway to get gold status?

 Hyatt has platinum and diamond status. (no gold) virtually no way you can get status at this point and have it help you for your stay. Sorry

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #1103 on: August 24, 2014, 02:28:51 PM »
Checking out of the GHK tomorrow evening- anyone here at the hotel or checking in that can use a toaster oven starting Monday afternoon let me know. Otherwise we'll be throwing it out- I don't want to advertise to the hotel that we had a toaster oven in our room... Toaster oven was great- we used it to heat up our Pomegranate meals daily and we got waffles, bagels, etc from Walmart and heated them up easily. So nice of the hotel to offer Oahu kosher food on site but honestly the food wasn't great, Walmart frozen meals and bagels were much better.

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #1104 on: August 25, 2014, 01:50:00 PM »
Checking out of the GHK tomorrow evening- anyone here at the hotel or checking in that can use a toaster oven starting Monday afternoon let me know. Otherwise we'll be throwing it out- I don't want to advertise to the hotel that we had a toaster oven in our room... Toaster oven was great- we used it to heat up our Pomegranate meals daily and we got waffles, bagels, etc from Walmart and heated them up easily. So nice of the hotel to offer Oahu kosher food on site but honestly the food wasn't great, Walmart frozen meals and bagels were much better.

Question.... assuming the Pomegranate meals are fleishig, would you use the same oven to heat up waffles from Walmart? I've never seen boxed waffles that were parve.

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« Reply #1105 on: August 25, 2014, 02:49:59 PM »
Just heat everything up double wrapped.
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« Reply #1106 on: August 25, 2014, 07:15:08 PM »
Just got back from Kauai. We stayed at the St. Regis and the Grand Hyatt- I found the St. Regis to be incomparably nicer- with regard to location, service, and the actual hotel. Although, I guess the GHK is a better choice for families as opposed to couples.
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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #1107 on: August 25, 2014, 07:25:39 PM »
Just got back from Kauai. We stayed at the St. Regis and the Grand Hyatt- I found the St. Regis to be incomparably nicer- with regard to location, service, and the actual hotel. Although, I guess the GHK is a better choice for families as opposed to couples.
"The S. Regis offers more personal service and has a more luxurious feel than the Grand Hyatt. It also offers views that are unparalleled."
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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #1108 on: August 25, 2014, 07:28:57 PM »
"The S. Regis offers more personal service and has a more luxurious feel than the Grand Hyatt. It also offers views that are unparalleled."
From http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/40633
I think it's weird that the wiki lists the GHK as the "top hotel"
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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #1109 on: August 25, 2014, 07:33:53 PM »
Depends what you're looking for and when time of year you go, read that TR for details.

I was at the SRP in the winter with a kid and it was fairly miserable.
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« Reply #1110 on: August 25, 2014, 07:47:55 PM »
Just got back from Kauai. We stayed at the St. Regis and the Grand Hyatt- I found the St. Regis to be incomparably nicer- with regard to location, service, and the actual hotel. Although, I guess the GHK is a better choice for families as opposed to couples.
Not gonna do much of a trip report... just a few points.

1. Take jetlag into account- especially for east-coasters! I was up at 4am in the morning and out by 4pm the first few nights. I also think that all the sun exposure can be pretty exhausting as well.

2. We ordered the Oahu Kosher meals that the hotel stocked. They were pretty inedible, and when I mentioned this at check-out at the GHK they were nice enough to not charge us fully for those meals.
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« Reply #1111 on: August 25, 2014, 07:58:49 PM »
We ordered the Oahu Kosher meals that the hotel stocked. They were pretty inedible, and when I mentioned this at check-out at the GHK they were nice enough to not charge us fully for those meals.
That'll be a good way to make sure they stop carrying them.

Why didn't you just order them fresh like I said to do?
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« Reply #1112 on: August 25, 2014, 08:06:38 PM »
That'll be a good way to make sure they stop carrying them.

Why didn't you just order them fresh like I said to do?
Because I wasn't about to pay $75 for delivery.

I don't know if it's the caterer or the hotel, but somebody is doing something wrong there.

Food stays flavorful even when frozen- as a Jewish wife I know this first-hand. But the food we got was bland and either originally over-baked or reheated for way too long. Also charging $5 (or was it $8?) For a hamburger bun called a dinner roll is ridiculous.

If the hotel cares about satisfying kosher consumers they're are better options.
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« Reply #1113 on: August 25, 2014, 08:25:37 PM »
$75 covers 10 meals and you pay less when you order direct anyway so you recoup that.
And the food actually tastes good that way.

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« Reply #1114 on: August 25, 2014, 08:30:07 PM »
$75 covers 10 meals and you pay less when you order direct anyway so you recoup that.
And the food actually tastes good that way.
Good or decent?
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« Reply #1115 on: August 25, 2014, 08:36:29 PM »
Good or decent?
50x better than the frozen ones though not as good as POM.
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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #1116 on: August 26, 2014, 02:31:41 AM »
Anyone going to be in the GHK as of Wednesday (8/27) and on? Thanks to sarasherman we have a toaster oven and would love to pay it forward once we leave!

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« Reply #1117 on: August 26, 2014, 08:08:17 PM »
My pleasure, hope this toaster oven has a long life in Kauai, even if we can't be there. Just got back today and we're trying to get over our depression from not being at GHK anymore. We're trying to cope by planning our next vacation- does anyone know which hotels are comparable to the GHK in terms of grounds/pools/staff accommodation? The GHK was really that good, we're planning our next vacation around any hotel similar to it. Any suggestions?

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« Reply #1118 on: August 26, 2014, 10:47:47 PM »
Anyone going to be in the GHK as of Wednesday (8/27) and on? Thanks to sarasherman we have a toaster oven and would love to pay it forward once we leave!
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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #1119 on: August 27, 2014, 03:15:44 PM »

Anyone going to be in the GHK as of Wednesday (8/27) and on? Thanks to sarasherman we have a toaster oven and would love to pay it forward once we leave!
Anyone? Bueller?