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Yeshivas
BMG- Biggest Yeshiva in the USA and perhaps the world.
https://www.bmg.edu/

Restaurants

Comprehensive list of Lakewood Restaurants here
Entree http://entreerestaurant.com - Best upscale meat place with great food and service 
Revolve- A new small upscale nice and different meat place.
Estreia - most upscale restaurant around but food could use improvement 
Ottimo  https://www.ottimocafe.com/ best and nicest dairy restaurant
cafotteria http://cafotteria.com/ nice dairy restaurant/cafe modern style
www.paninicafelakewood.com nice small restaurant , delicious food
Pizzano- A pizza store with nice sit down area also has a large dairy menu ( served to table )
Upper Crust- A nice sit down area with large dairy menu ( Full waiter service )

Fast Food
Meat
Glatt Bite- Massive menu with fast service and delicious American and Chinese food.
D'LUX- Massive menu with fast service. American, Chinese, and sushi
Yussies- Deli and sandwiches. Delicious fries.
Glatt Gourmet- best homemade take out food (also sandwiches and chinese)
Yapchik- Nice menu great homemade take out, or eat in, best shabbes meat selection
Bun- Nice new place, great burgers
Sushi Express- sushi and Chinese, they deliver 732-901-7874
South Side Sandwich Shop- Fast-food joint Extensive sandwich menu. Has delicious smoked Ribs/Lamb brisket and chicken. Friendly service.
Snaps- Fast food in Westgate
Mikes Chicken Crunchers - variety of fried chicken and sandwiches
Dairy
Circa - Clean pizza store/cafe with large menu + sushi.
Pizza Place- A pizza store with a large dairy menu and very nice setting located in WestGate 732.730.1144
Pizza Plus, 4th st btwn Clifton and Lexington. Original Lakewood pizza store. Foods great. Best pizza around
J2- Pizza and sushi in Shoprite plaza. Pizza is good, great sushi. Service is not good.
Village Pizza (2 locatioons) - Pizza store with a dairy menu

Bagel Nosh - Legendary bagel store, needs no introduction
4 Corners (4 locations) , bagel store+ sushi ]
Coffee
French Press - Freshly Roasted exotic coffee beans. Ground and brewed on demand by the cup. Standard method is pour over, but you can request just about any. Ask which brand are freshest.

Shuls
Kol Shimshon - fixed mincha and maariv every 15 minutes at peak times otherwise every 1/2 hour
West Gate - Maariv every 20 minutes from 8-12
Satmar- Forest and 5th
Chestnut - Another good option for Shachris (until 9) if you're on the South side of the lake (and for shkiya mincha-maariv). 105 Chestnut Street Corner of Tiffany Lane

Kosher Grocery and Supermarkets
Jerusalem Glatt: 515 River Ave  Phone: (732) 370-6695
Kosher West: 136 Hillside Blvd
NPGS  - 152 James Street, 231 Main Street, and 2080 W County Line
Super Stop - 1161 River Ave and 416 Cedarbridge
Foodex -  407 Princeton Ave
Shloimys  - 1750 Clifton Ave
Gormet Glatt - 1700 Madison Ave
Kosher Villiage - 911 E County Line
Jerusalem Glatt  - 515 River Ave
Corner of 2nd - 132 2nd Street
Kollel Food Store - 403 Clifton
Aisle 9 -  951 Madison
Picnic - 357 Squankum RIP 6.20.2021
Evergreen
Gourmet Glatt South
BINGO
Feldman’s
Yankel’s
Seasons
Chick-Chock

Clothing

Men
His Place- 435 Clifton Ave
Emporio- 1700 Madison Ave
Marcy's- NEW LOCATION- 10 America Ave

Women
Girls on Glen- 120 Hillside Blvd
Gowns By Shevy(you can also sell and rent out your sister/mother of the bride gowns here)
Zinelli- 175 E Kennedy Blvd
Heads of Class- 916 River Ave

Periodicals

Newspapers
The Lakewood Shopper

Magazines
The Voice of Lakewood

Advertising only
The Clip It coupon card732-231-2692 - Coupon card that comes in back of the BP

BP weekly

Lakewood weekly

Masa Umatan (Has popular lists like freebay, Rental list http://masaumatan.com/e96_rentals.html, and playgroup list)

Residential Rental listings
http://masaumatan.com/MasaRentals.pdf
rental list http://masaumatan.com/e96_rentals.html

https://www.listingsinlakewood.com/

Keilim Mikva:

11th st mikva, -till 4pm
Hertzberg, 121 E 9th bet. Park and East end. -On left side of house after entrance to shul.
DB Electronics open 24hrs in the back ( Yt seasons only for costumers)
The Westview Shop
Center Of Town (Gourmet Glatt plaza)
Amazing Savings
Yesodei Court


Car Repairs

https://greaterlakewood.com/lakewood-mobile-mechanics-diagnose-and-fix-cars-at-owners-homes/

Betzalel Brezner 845-558-5547
Absolute cheapest prices, great work
@S209: I was very satisfied, used him twice
Tell him you saw it on dansdeals forums! :)

Reuven & Sons Auto Repair
40 Chestnut street
From transmissions to brakes.
Honest prices. Quick service
848-222-1104
New mechanic in town. 25 years experience, moved from Brooklyn.
Tell him you saw it on Dansdeals.

Brakes and Batteries
Moshe Levy will come to you.  848-210-3640
Lipas

Body Work
AllState Collision (Ovadia Levine) 732-730-0220

Plumbers

Zalman Charloff- Z R Plumbing. Six four six-946-2903 (recommended by S209 and by YitzyS)

HVAC
Izzy Zerken - AMZ Heating and Cooling (recommended by S209)

Flowers

White Ribbon Florist - Weddings, events, and stunning Shabbos flowers. @S209

Phone Repairs

Lg Exalt Repairs- 347-201-2501 (Call or Text)
Matis Geesis - 732 523-0033

Note that this list is far from exhaustive.


To Do - Parks & Recreational Ideas:

http://www.oceancountyparks.org/

Transportation
Rockshire Transit - Lakewood/Monsey - 845-352-8543
Midtown Bus - see this post by @Marks
See this post for other options to Manhattan

Auto Sales
Toms River Auto Sales
Lakewood Auto Sales
Priority
iCar
Ami Katz
MY Auto Sales
Auto Discounters
Car Shadchan
Lakewood Car Finder

Author Topic: Lakewood NJ Master Thread  (Read 4392542 times)

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Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #23660 on: February 24, 2024, 10:25:51 PM »
I can only judge based on what’s public. Unless you have more to share, KCL has an egg on their face. They forgot that they no longer have a monopoly on Kashrus in Lakewood and came back running
I heard they came back begging and it’s now under new management.

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Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #23661 on: February 24, 2024, 11:28:01 PM »
Well, pretty obviously you're missing a very big portion of the story
Why is that so obvious? He posted a lot more details than you.

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Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #23662 on: February 24, 2024, 11:33:18 PM »
Why is that so obvious? He posted a lot more details than you.

From his own words. I do not have any details at all. Don't you think whether the hechsher told them that they can or can't continue with the modified event is a major part of the story? It is very clearly advertised that there is new management. Does that have to do with the hechsher going back on? Did they get various concessions and guarantees from the place for the future? These all affect the story much more than anything he posted. All he posted is that there was an objection and things were modified.
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Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #23663 on: February 24, 2024, 11:42:40 PM »
I don’t know if KCL said that was good enough.
They did not.

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Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #23664 on: February 25, 2024, 10:51:18 AM »
I heard they came back begging and it’s now under new management.

Yeh, they didn’t claim it was under new management until later. I saw it in a KCL ad posted in the Voice this week. But just a few days prior, “Rabbi Weisner, the KCL administrator, tells LNN that, thanks to the cooperation with the Ottimo Cafe management, the KCL is pleased to reinstate the kashrus certification once again.“

https://lnnnews.com/after-short-interruption-ottimo-cafe-is-back-under-kcl-supervision/

Reversing and claiming new management sounds like damage control.
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Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #23665 on: February 25, 2024, 11:06:09 AM »
Reminder that dozens of Lakewood parlor meetings, fundraisers, and other events feature kumzits and hookah, whether you consider that good or bad. To remove kashrus over what is common practice is bold, and understandably they made amends to get this behind them.
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Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #23666 on: February 25, 2024, 12:11:10 PM »
Once we are talking about Ottimo, Google Maps says they are Black-owned. I am curious if that is just a marketing thing to show up higher on Google's algorithm or if it is actually true.

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Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #23667 on: February 25, 2024, 12:21:09 PM »
Once we are talking about Ottimo, Google Maps says they are Black-owned. I am curious if that is just a marketing thing to show up higher on Google's algorithm or if it is actually true.
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Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #23668 on: February 25, 2024, 01:29:54 PM »
Once we are talking about Ottimo, Google Maps says they are Black-owned. I am curious if that is just a marketing thing to show up higher on Google's algorithm or if it is actually true.
”identifies” as black owned it says. Big difference. Snaps said that too for a while. I see now it’s not listed

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Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #23669 on: February 25, 2024, 01:41:02 PM »
I think Uber eats was promoting black owned.

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Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #23670 on: February 25, 2024, 02:02:23 PM »
Yeh, they didn’t claim it was under new management until later. I saw it in a KCL ad posted in the Voice this week. But just a few days prior, “Rabbi Weisner, the KCL administrator, tells LNN that, thanks to the cooperation with the Ottimo Cafe management, the KCL is pleased to reinstate the kashrus certification once again.“

https://lnnnews.com/after-short-interruption-ottimo-cafe-is-back-under-kcl-supervision/

Reversing and claiming new management sounds like damage control.
From what I heard it was part of the requirements to reinstate when Otimo came back begging. They even got them to pay for the expenses incurred to let people know they removed it.

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Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #23671 on: February 25, 2024, 02:04:06 PM »
Reminder that dozens of Lakewood parlor meetings, fundraisers, and other events feature kumzits and hookah, whether you consider that good or bad. To remove kashrus over what is common practice is bold, and understandably they made amends to get this behind them.
Let’s see if Otimo does this again

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Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #23672 on: February 25, 2024, 03:12:15 PM »
One thing that IMHO would be totally unacceptable is if they were told not to do it and then did it anyhow. If this happened, and I don't know if it did, then they deserve to be blacklisted by every single hechsher. If you don't like their policies, go get a different hechsher, but as long as you have this hechsher, you need to abide by their rules. If you flout the hechshers rules just because you disagree with them, that is now a Kashrus problem, too.
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Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #23673 on: February 25, 2024, 05:52:02 PM »
One thing that IMHO would be totally unacceptable is if they were told not to do it and then did it anyhow. If this happened, and I don't know if it did, then they deserve to be blacklisted by every single hechsher. If you don't like their policies, go get a different hechsher, but as long as you have this hechsher, you need to abide by their rules. If you flout the hechshers rules just because you disagree with them, that is now a Kashrus problem, too.
I don't think this argument is very strong when it isn't a kashrus related rule.
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Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #23674 on: February 25, 2024, 06:00:24 PM »
I don't think this argument is very strong when it isn't a kashrus related rule.

People who flout authority flout authority. Nobody hired KCL without knowing that they have some non-kashrus related policies. They may not bring in treif meat, but they may feel that KCL is being too machmir about bugs on fruits and vegetables and skirt them there. Once they feel they know better it comes out in many ways.
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Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #23675 on: February 26, 2024, 12:19:38 AM »
People who flout authority flout authority. Nobody hired KCL without knowing that they have some non-kashrus related policies. They may not bring in treif meat, but they may feel that KCL is being too machmir about bugs on fruits and vegetables and skirt them there. Once they feel they know better it comes out in many ways.

What exactly is the policy? KCL doesn’t certify food served that is served with hookahs?
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Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #23676 on: February 26, 2024, 12:28:28 AM »
What exactly is the policy? KCL doesn’t certify food served that is served with hookahs?
KCL doesn't certify hookah bars. One can argue they are "old fashioned" but as long as they are giving the certification they get to make the rules, without the need to disclose their policies to ddf'ers.
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Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #23677 on: February 26, 2024, 12:55:42 AM »
Banning a restaurant for a dumb reason (as perceived by many) until realizing how stupid they look, knowing Ottimo would immediately get a new hechsher and everyone would still go there. KCL backtracked immediately to save from further embarrassment and for the paycheck.
IMHO on the contrary KCL comes out looking much stronger from all this. They took a stand on their policies (albeit not kashrus related) and pulled their hashgocha, the store owner came back begging and promised to behave and they put the hashgocha back.

While the hooka crowd might not care which hashgocha, a large part of lakewood does care. I doubt any respectable hashgocha would take over an establishment under those circumstances and enough people aren't going to be happy with a weak hashgocha.

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Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #23678 on: February 26, 2024, 01:40:07 AM »

Our young generation really has a problem with authority.
Said every older generation ever.

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Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #23679 on: February 26, 2024, 07:48:06 AM »
IMHO on the contrary KCL comes out looking much stronger from all this. They took a stand on their policies (albeit not kashrus related) and pulled their hashgocha, the store owner came back begging and promised to behave and they put the hashgocha back.

While the hooka crowd might not care which hashgocha, a large part of lakewood does care. I doubt any respectable hashgocha would take over an establishment under those circumstances and enough people aren't going to be happy with a weak hashgocha.

KCL would be top notch if they cared half as much about Kashrus as they did hashkafa :P
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