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Yeshivas
BMG- Biggest Yeshiva in the USA and perhaps the world.
https://www.bmg.edu/

Restaurants

Comprehensive list of Lakewood Restaurants here
Entree http://entreerestaurant.com - Best upscale meat place with great food and service 
Revolve- A new small upscale nice and different meat place.
Estreia - most upscale restaurant around but food could use improvement 
Ottimo  https://www.ottimocafe.com/ best and nicest dairy restaurant
cafotteria http://cafotteria.com/ nice dairy restaurant/cafe modern style
www.paninicafelakewood.com nice small restaurant , delicious food
Pizzano- A pizza store with nice sit down area also has a large dairy menu ( served to table )
Upper Crust- A nice sit down area with large dairy menu ( Full waiter service )

Fast Food
Meat
Glatt Bite- Massive menu with fast service and delicious American and Chinese food.
D'LUX- Massive menu with fast service. American, Chinese, and sushi
Yussies- Deli and sandwiches. Delicious fries.
Glatt Gourmet- best homemade take out food (also sandwiches and chinese)
Yapchik- Nice menu great homemade take out, or eat in, best shabbes meat selection
Bun- Nice new place, great burgers
Sushi Express- sushi and Chinese, they deliver 732-901-7874
South Side Sandwich Shop- Fast-food joint Extensive sandwich menu. Has delicious smoked Ribs/Lamb brisket and chicken. Friendly service.
Snaps- Fast food in Westgate
Mikes Chicken Crunchers - variety of fried chicken and sandwiches
Dairy
Circa - Clean pizza store/cafe with large menu + sushi.
Pizza Place- A pizza store with a large dairy menu and very nice setting located in WestGate 732.730.1144
Pizza Plus, 4th st btwn Clifton and Lexington. Original Lakewood pizza store. Foods great. Best pizza around
J2- Pizza and sushi in Shoprite plaza. Pizza is good, great sushi. Service is not good.
Village Pizza (2 locatioons) - Pizza store with a dairy menu

Bagel Nosh - Legendary bagel store, needs no introduction
4 Corners (4 locations) , bagel store+ sushi ]
Coffee
French Press - Freshly Roasted exotic coffee beans. Ground and brewed on demand by the cup. Standard method is pour over, but you can request just about any. Ask which brand are freshest.

Shuls
Kol Shimshon - fixed mincha and maariv every 15 minutes at peak times otherwise every 1/2 hour
West Gate - Maariv every 20 minutes from 8-12
Satmar- Forest and 5th
Chestnut - Another good option for Shachris (until 9) if you're on the South side of the lake (and for shkiya mincha-maariv). 105 Chestnut Street Corner of Tiffany Lane

Kosher Grocery and Supermarkets
Jerusalem Glatt: 515 River Ave  Phone: (732) 370-6695
Kosher West: 136 Hillside Blvd
NPGS  - 152 James Street, 231 Main Street, and 2080 W County Line
Super Stop - 1161 River Ave and 416 Cedarbridge
Foodex -  407 Princeton Ave
Shloimys  - 1750 Clifton Ave
Gormet Glatt - 1700 Madison Ave
Kosher Villiage - 911 E County Line
Jerusalem Glatt  - 515 River Ave
Corner of 2nd - 132 2nd Street
Kollel Food Store - 403 Clifton
Aisle 9 -  951 Madison
Picnic - 357 Squankum RIP 6.20.2021
Evergreen
Gourmet Glatt South
BINGO
Feldman’s
Yankel’s
Seasons
Chick-Chock

Clothing

Men
His Place- 435 Clifton Ave
Emporio- 1700 Madison Ave
Marcy's- NEW LOCATION- 10 America Ave

Women
Girls on Glen- 120 Hillside Blvd
Gowns By Shevy(you can also sell and rent out your sister/mother of the bride gowns here)
Zinelli- 175 E Kennedy Blvd
Heads of Class- 916 River Ave

Periodicals

Newspapers
The Lakewood Shopper

Magazines
The Voice of Lakewood

Advertising only
The Clip It coupon card732-231-2692 - Coupon card that comes in back of the BP

BP weekly

Lakewood weekly

Masa Umatan (Has popular lists like freebay, Rental list http://masaumatan.com/e96_rentals.html, and playgroup list)

Residential Rental listings
http://masaumatan.com/MasaRentals.pdf
rental list http://masaumatan.com/e96_rentals.html

https://www.listingsinlakewood.com/

Keilim Mikva:

11th st mikva, -till 4pm
Hertzberg, 121 E 9th bet. Park and East end. -On left side of house after entrance to shul.
DB Electronics open 24hrs in the back ( Yt seasons only for costumers)
The Westview Shop
Center Of Town (Gourmet Glatt plaza)
Amazing Savings
Yesodei Court


Car Repairs

https://greaterlakewood.com/lakewood-mobile-mechanics-diagnose-and-fix-cars-at-owners-homes/

Betzalel Brezner 845-558-5547
Absolute cheapest prices, great work
@S209: I was very satisfied, used him twice
Tell him you saw it on dansdeals forums! :)

Reuven & Sons Auto Repair
40 Chestnut street
From transmissions to brakes.
Honest prices. Quick service
848-222-1104
New mechanic in town. 25 years experience, moved from Brooklyn.
Tell him you saw it on Dansdeals.

Brakes and Batteries
Moshe Levy will come to you.  848-210-3640
Lipas

Body Work
AllState Collision (Ovadia Levine) 732-730-0220

Plumbers

Zalman Charloff- Z R Plumbing. Six four six-946-2903 (recommended by S209 and by YitzyS)

HVAC
Izzy Zerken - AMZ Heating and Cooling (recommended by S209)

Flowers

White Ribbon Florist - Weddings, events, and stunning Shabbos flowers. @S209

Phone Repairs

Lg Exalt Repairs- 347-201-2501 (Call or Text)
Matis Geesis - 732 523-0033

Note that this list is far from exhaustive.


To Do - Parks & Recreational Ideas:

http://www.oceancountyparks.org/

Transportation
Rockshire Transit - Lakewood/Monsey - 845-352-8543
Midtown Bus - see this post by @Marks
See this post for other options to Manhattan

Auto Sales
Toms River Auto Sales
Lakewood Auto Sales
Priority
iCar
Ami Katz
MY Auto Sales
Auto Discounters
Car Shadchan
Lakewood Car Finder

Author Topic: Lakewood NJ Master Thread  (Read 4491802 times)

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Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #500 on: March 20, 2013, 03:45:29 PM »
Simple: your illustration of "working people" is WAY off the mark. Perhaps %2 of the working population fits that description.

And what pisses me off most of all about kollel people discriminating against working people is: just who do you think it is that is paying for you to sit in kollel, anyway?! Other kollel people?!
Exactly. Lakewood is being forced to realize that the whole Kollel thing is an unsustainable system. Someone needs to work.
#bitethehand

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Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #501 on: March 20, 2013, 03:48:34 PM »
Hi all, i'll say straight out that i'm from lkwd, but the points I wanna make have nothing to that with that and aren't at all biast.

First of all, it doesn't make any sense to me that people who don't live in lkwd can have a say in this matter/in these politics.
As much as you "hear" about what goes on, it doesn't give you enough info to actually know whats really going on.

Just from lurking on the forums a little, and from seeing posts in this thread, it doesn't seem moishebatchy, jaywhy, judahk88, and others, live in lkwd. 
So for you guys, I would say please post your sources, and even then, it doesn't really mean much.

And moishebatchy, before you come back and tell me to read your post about your brother in laws' that are in chinuch - I just wanna say that sometimes mikva hock (e.g. bmg coffee room) is better/dirtier/fuller/etc then "hearing from your rebbe bro-in-law"

And one last point, This is for Dan or chaikel , This thread was very usefull and has alot of great info. Is it possible you can merge off the last conversartion to a seperate thread?

Thank you

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Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #502 on: March 20, 2013, 03:51:53 PM »
Hi all, i'll say straight out that i'm from lkwd, but the points I wanna make have nothing to that with that and aren't at all biast.

First of all, it doesn't make any sense to me that people who don't live in lkwd can have a say in this matter/in these politics.
As much as you "hear" about what goes on, it doesn't give you enough info to actually know whats really going on.

Just from lurking on the forums a little, and from seeing posts in this thread, it doesn't seem moishebatchy, jaywhy, judahk88, and others, live in lkwd. 
So for you guys, I would say please post your sources, and even then, it doesn't really mean much.

And moishebatchy, before you come back and tell me to read your post about your brother in laws' that are in chinuch - I just wanna say that sometimes mikva hock (e.g. bmg coffee room) is better/dirtier/fuller/etc then "hearing from your rebbe bro-in-law"

And one last point, This is for Dan or chaikel , This thread was very usefull and has alot of great info. Is it possible you can merge off the last conversartion to a seperate thread?

Thank you
Wow I feel so special that you singled me out for one comment I made in the past 3 pages of this thread  :) . Did you say you were from Lakewood?  ;)

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Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #503 on: March 20, 2013, 03:53:20 PM »
And one last point, This is for Dan or chaikel , This thread was very usefull and has alot of great info. Is it possible you can merge off the last conversartion to a seperate thread?

Thank you

+1

I apologize as I have caused this thread to go bonkers today.
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Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #504 on: March 20, 2013, 03:54:15 PM »
+1

I apologize as I have caused this thread to go bonkers today.
Alot of threads go OT at some point for a little bit.

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Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #505 on: March 20, 2013, 03:54:24 PM »
Just from lurking on the forums a little, and from seeing posts in this thread, it doesn't seem moishebatchy, jaywhy, judahk88, and others, live in lkwd.
FYI, I was born and raised in Lakewood, most of my family lives there and I have first-hand experience with the school system, hypocrisy, kollel, you name it... I don't live there anymore. BH
Not that it matters where you live in order to have an opinion on Lakewood politics.
So for you guys, I would say please post your sources, and even then, it doesn't really mean much. Only we have to post sources?

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Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #506 on: March 20, 2013, 03:58:25 PM »
+1

I apologize as I have caused this thread to go bonkers today.
+1. If after today this thread goes back to being what it was, then just leave it alone, but if this goes on, then it is simply killing the thread, and just merge these comments into a new thread called Lakewood Hock.

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Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #507 on: March 20, 2013, 04:00:04 PM »
Simple: your illustration of "working people" is WAY off the mark. Perhaps %2 of the working population fits that description.

And what pisses me off most of all about kollel people discriminating against working people is: just who do you think it is that is paying for you to sit in kollel, anyway?! Other kollel people?!
Was waiting for someone to bring up that point and start that argument!!
Lemme tell ya, that svura would never fly in lkwd!
The yeshivaliet will tell you that it can/will be done however R' Aron did it.

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Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #508 on: March 20, 2013, 04:02:18 PM »
Two reasons:

1) Because it hasn't really changed all that much. It's not like they suddenly fell in love with the working people in their midst; its just that things like the space issue are bigger and more pressing, so the "working" issue is taking a backseat. But there still is not much love lost toward working people.

2) Even whatever has changed, has not changed out of their own free will. It's like teshuvah me'ahavah versus teshuvah me'yirah - they didn't become more accepting of working people and their families because they realized they had been engaging in sinas Yisroel and decided to mend their ways; they became more accepting simply because they realized that their efforts to banish working people had failed, so they now have no choice but to make peace with the new reality. But given the choice, many would love to go back to the "good old days" of having only yeshivishe people living there.

1. Understood. Not sure what that last part means.

2.  A) Everyone has their issues. If the system changed, in my mind that's good enough. There are plenty of things that need change in every community, though nobody cares to do it.

B) Don't most bnei torah like to be surrounded by other bnei torah? I'm not saying that working people aren't bnei torah, but there is definitely a preference by most demographics to live around their same type of people.
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Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #509 on: March 20, 2013, 04:02:45 PM »
Just read up the thread and I feel so left out.

Why does everyone here think Lakewood is the only place that knocks working people.

There are people from all over that knock working and college.

A lot of mothers won't let their daughters go out with guys that work/college on the side.

This is today industry. If you don't like it, try not to associate yourself with people that feel this way.

All I am saying is, the main problem is that this world judges you with what you wear, do, drive etc. it has nothing to do with this community or not. Some places

 are more than others, but you will find this almost everywhere.

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Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #510 on: March 20, 2013, 04:03:36 PM »
Was waiting for someone to bring up that point and start that argument!!
Lemme tell ya, that svura would never fly in lkwd!
The yeshivaliet will tell you that it can/will be done however R' Aron did it.
Because it was one generation arrangement. Parents, donors, fundraising, that can all help cover the financial burden of Kollel families. Kollel parents cannot support Kollel children. The whole house of cards comes crashing down.

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Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #511 on: March 20, 2013, 04:08:38 PM »
Simple: your illustration of "working people" is WAY off the mark. Perhaps %2 of the working population fits that description.

And what pisses me off most of all about kollel people discriminating against working people is: just who do you think it is that is paying for you to sit in kollel, anyway?! Other kollel people?!
You obviously missed my point. Yeshivalite have nothing against most bala batim. Its the "working ppl" that I described, who have moved into Lakewood that they do not want to associate with.
You obviously have a chip on your shoulder against kollel ppl, its sad.

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Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #512 on: March 20, 2013, 04:13:08 PM »
Simple: your illustration of "working people" is WAY off the mark. Perhaps %2 of the working population fits that description.

And what pisses me off most of all about kollel people discriminating against working people is: just who do you think it is that is paying for you to sit in kollel, anyway?! Other kollel people?!
Paying? Lemme guess, you dont donate to BMG, right?

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Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #513 on: March 20, 2013, 04:15:51 PM »
Because it was one generation arrangement. Parents, donors, fundraising, that can all help cover the financial burden of Kollel families. Kollel parents cannot support Kollel children. The whole house of cards comes crashing down.
possibly, but your forgetting the wonderful state of NJ, which supports most long time learners....
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Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #514 on: March 20, 2013, 04:18:35 PM »
possibly, but your forgetting the wonderful state of NJ, which supports most long time learners....
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Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #515 on: March 20, 2013, 04:19:20 PM »
Hi all, i'll say straight out that i'm from lkwd, but the points I wanna make have nothing to that with that and aren't at all biast.
 

I find it hard to believe that you aren't "biast" (sic), but I'll start by giving you the benefit of the doubt, and we'll dissect the hogwash that comprises your post, piece by piece.

 

First of all, it doesn't make any sense to me that people who don't live in lkwd can have a say in this matter/in these politics.
As much as you "hear" about what goes on, it doesn't give you enough info to actually know whats really going on.
 

Sorry, I'm gonna call BS on that one. Like someone once said, "opinions are like backsides: everyone has one, and everyone thinks everyone else's stinks". Just because someone doesn't live there, that doesn't invalidate their right to an opinion, even if you feel it stinks. You can discredit anything they say... in your own mind. But you can't take away someone's right to feel a certain way about something, and to discuss it openly.


 

Just from lurking on the forums a little, and from seeing posts in this thread, it doesn't seem moishebatchy, jaywhy, judahk88, and others, live in lkwd. 
So for you guys, I would say please post your sources, and even then, it doesn't really mean much.
 


Did you not read my post? I lived in Lakewood. I lived and breathed the local politics. I've spent countless hours in the offices of various yeshivas (doing volunteer work), rubbing shoulders with some of the top brass in the community.

My sources? Myself. My own personal experiences, observations, and interactions. I think that's good enough.

 

And moishebatchy, before you come back and tell me to read your post about your brother in laws' that are in chinuch - I just wanna say that sometimes mikva hock (e.g. bmg coffee room) is better/dirtier/fuller/etc then "hearing from your rebbe bro-in-law"

Lemme get this straight... you believe that coffee room hock/mikvah neias (i.e. pure, unadulterated, random speculation, often with no factual basis) is more reliable than hearing crystal clear facts directly from the people involved in these things?!

You know what, let's say you're right... Well, I've spent countless late-night hours sitting in the office of Yeshiva Ketana, talking community politics with the aforementioned "top brass". Those candid, open, shooting-the-breeze conversations put any mikva schmooze to shame.

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Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #516 on: March 20, 2013, 04:33:17 PM »
I find it hard to believe that you aren't "biast" (sic), but I'll start by giving you the benefit of the doubt, and we'll dissect the hogwash that comprises your post, piece by piece.
Sic?

Sorry, I'm gonna call BS on that one. Like someone once said, "opinions are like backsides: everyone has one, and everyone thinks everyone else's stinks". Just because someone doesn't live there, that doesn't invalidate their right to an opinion, even if you feel it stinks. You can discredit anything they say... in your own mind. But you can't take away someone's right to feel a certain way about something, and to discuss it openly.
??? Since when are we disscussing opions?? This conversation started off with why the schools in lkwd don't accept certain kids/kids from certain homes.

Thats not about opion, there are facts about that.

 
Did you not read my post? I lived in Lakewood. I lived and breathed the local politics. I've spent countless hours in the offices of various yeshivas (doing volunteer work), rubbing shoulders with some of the top brass in the community.
Lol.

My sources? Myself. My own personal experiences, observations, and interactions. I think that's good enough.
You have experience with getting your kids into school in lkwd??

Lemme get this straight... you believe that coffee room hock/mikvah neias (i.e. pure, unadulterated, random speculation, often with no factual basis) is more reliable than hearing crystal clear facts directly from the people involved in these things?!

You know what, let's say you're right... Well, I've spent countless late-night hours sitting in the office of Yeshiva Ketana, talking community politics with the aforementioned "top brass". Those candid, open, shooting-the-breeze conversations put any mikva schmooze to shame.
Believe it or not, not always will you "rebbe bro-in-law" tell you everything, or even know everything thats going on.
Sad to say, but the real L"h goes on in other places besides family dining rooms.

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Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #517 on: March 20, 2013, 04:58:48 PM »
isn't it Ironic that I was getting blasted for speaking L"H about WS By Baruch and then you slipped into Lakewood and Rabbi/Askan Bashing which is somehow not considered L"H and then this whole thing spiraled into something crazy.
You're being malshin on the neighborhood. Delete it. Ask a Rav, if he says it's mutar (highly doubt he will), repost it. I have this feeling that saying Lashon Hara berabim is not worth it if you're  :-\
I strongly urge the past few posts to be deleted, it is Lashon Hara, if it's letoeles - use pm.
People have to use pull and protektzia to get into these schools. What once used to be call your rich uncle to get into Brisk, is now call your rich uncle to get into Pre 1A!!!

The most powerful people in town are the Rashei Mosdos, and a lot of them wield that power for personal benefit. I will not get into details. But a lot of them aren't exactly the most ehrliche yerei shomayim.
« Last Edit: March 20, 2013, 05:02:03 PM by Mimi K. »
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Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #518 on: March 20, 2013, 05:01:18 PM »
isn't it Ironic that I was getting blasted for speaking L"H about WS By Baruch and then you slipped into Lakewood and Rabbi/Askan Bashing which is somehow not considered L"H and then this whole thing spiraled into something crazy.
+1000 general rule of thumb- "my" LH is mutar/litoeles or whatever other heter u can name

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Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #519 on: March 20, 2013, 05:06:13 PM »
Sic?
 ??? Since when are we disscussing opions?? This conversation started off with why the schools in lkwd don't accept certain kids/kids from certain homes.

Thats not about opion, there are facts about that.

  Lol.
You have experience with getting your kids into school in lkwd??
Believe it or not, not always will you "rebbe bro-in-law" tell you everything, or even know everything thats going on.
Sad to say, but the real L"h goes on in other places besides family dining rooms.

I'm still not sure what your trying I say..
In not saying in with moishebatchy on this one but I defenaty think he is bringing up valid points and don't here your argument...
Your agreeing there is dirty hock in Lakewood (and he says he saw it first hand) just arguing on source??