Lakewood NJ Master Thread

[Fish Tank]

my understanding is that men automatically make more. (no sexist agenda intended)

Not in Lakewood. You must've missed this comment:

Women typically get paid higher the men at  the first few levels

[Fish Tank]

why were discussing pay in Lakewood

This thread is made for questions and answers. For discussions about a specific topic, a new thread should be opened.

For example, there is a Lakewood grocery pricing thread, a Lakewood DO thread, a Lakewood Gemach thread, a Lakewood Bingo thread, etc. etc.

[Zevi16]

This thread is made for questions and answers. For discussions about a specific topic, a new thread should be opened.

For example, there is a Lakewood grocery pricing thread, a Lakewood DO thread, a Lakewood Gemach thread, a Lakewood Bingo thread, etc. etc.

It’s fine, ‘Lakewooders’ can handle multiple topics in one thread

[grodnoking]

I have no experience in this regard,  but If I had to guess this:

Starting pay out of seminary in Lakewood is between 17-19

Is talking about one with no experience, and this:

Correct. But to get a decent girl it’s $25

Is with experience in QB and exell...

[Zevi16]

I have no experience in this regard,  but If I had to guess this:Is talking about one with no experience, and this:Is with experience in QB and exell...

It takes a total of 2 weeks to have that ‘experience’ needed for quick books and excel.
They aren’t looking for someone that knows the full functions of it.

[YesThatsMe]

It takes a total of 2 weeks to have that ‘experience’ needed for quick books and excel.
They aren’t looking for someone that knows the full functions of it.

Quickbooks shouldn't take more than a week. Excel is a lifelong process of learning.

[Zevi16]

Excel is a lifelong process of learning.

Correct. Im still baffled by the new functions that I learn every day. I love it.
But the regular business in Lakewood isn’t looking for that experience.

[cholent]

I'll take this opportunity to express how sexist, discriminatory, and just plain wrong it is that pay is explicitly based on gender in this town.

[churnbabychurn]

I'll take this opportunity to express how sexist, discriminatory, and just plain wrong it is that pay is explicitly based on gender in this town.

It's not. Men have a steeper learning curve.

[Fish Tank]

I'll take this opportunity to express how sexist, discriminatory, and just plain wrong it is that pay is explicitly based on gender in this town.

Lol. There's a lot more behind it than gender.

It's not. Men have a steeper learning curve.

Exactly.

[cholent]

Lol. There's a lot more behind it than gender.
Exactly.

If you think there isn't a pay difference in Lakewood based solely on gender, you're fooling yourself. And in the long run it favors men.

[grodnoking]

I'll take this opportunity to express how sexist, discriminatory, and just plain wrong it is that pay is explicitly based on gender in this town.

I feel it's more based on the jobs they are hired for.
Men start at a lower salary and have a much higher ceiling to grow to. (For example let's say he can start off stocking NPGS's shelves and grow into a manager of a section of the store or the whole store).
Woman start off at a slightly higher (based on what people are saying here) but hit a glass ceiling (for example as a secretary with experience, but they're not becoming managers from a secretary job).

Of course its possible for a man to have a job that can't grow and a woman to have a job that can, but on average the men have higher growing jobs.

Do we have to start a new thread?

Are woman being kept away from a job that they are as capable of? Possibly. But that's for the new thread someone will start.

[aygart]

I have no experience in this regard,  but If I had to guess this:Is talking about one with no experience, and this:Is with experience in QB and exell...

Straight out of seminary or starting salary is not with experience

[aygart]

I feel it's more based on the jobs they are hired for.
Men start at a lower salary and have a much higher ceiling to grow to. (For example let's say he can start off stocking NPGS's shelves and grow into a manager of a section of the store or the whole store).
Woman start off at a slightly higher (based on what people are saying here) but hit a glass ceiling (for example as a secretary with experience, but they're not becoming managers from a secretary job).

Of course its possible for a man to have a job that can't grow and a woman to have a job that can, but on average the men have higher growing jobs.

Do we have to start a new thread?

Are woman being kept away from a job that they are as capable of? Possibly. But that's for the new thread someone will start.

This is incorrect on a few counts.

1. In many business there is plenty of room for growth in clerical positions. Case in point is Madison.
2. The facts are that many of the women in Lakewood are unable or unwilling to dedicate the time needed to advance to a managerial position and would prefer more freedom to spend time with their family.

[Fish Tank]

2. The facts are that many of the women in Lakewood are unable or unwilling to dedicate the time needed to advance to a managerial position and would prefer more freedom to spend time with their family.

Great point. It is almost impossible to find women in Lakewood that are willing to work 9-5.