Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread

[DTM]

What is the difference between the Rabbanut hechsher and Rabbanut Mehadrin and other better hechsherim in Israel? Kind, serious and specific responses only please.

I know and can describe in detail why first class is better than coach and a Lexus is better than a Chevy, but what are the specific enhancements that we get with a Mehadrin or other superior Hechsherim in EY?

[shaulyaakov]

What is the difference between the Rabbanut hechsher and Rabbanut Mehadrin and other better hechsherim in Israel? Kind, serious and specific responses only please.

I know and can describe in detail why first class is better than coach and a Lexus is better than a Chevy, but what are the specific enhancements that we get with a Mehadrin or other superior Hechsherim in EY?

Every Rabbanut is different but usually the main difference between Mehardin and regular is the regular Rabbanut relies on many Kulos. For example, Rabbanut meat is not glatt. Rabbanut Mehardin is more in line with a mainstream American hechsher. Private hashgacha is all about the underlying agency certifying, so no blanket rules.

[aygart]

What is the difference between the Rabbanut hechsher and Rabbanut Mehadrin and other better hechsherim in Israel? Kind, serious and specific responses only please.

I know and can describe in detail why first class is better than coach and a Lexus is better than a Chevy, but what are the specific enhancements that we get with a Mehadrin or other superior Hechsherim in EY?

The primary difference is that plain rabanut does not have full control over which ingredients they do or did not accept. It is only meant to be a minimal standard of kosher and they all accept from each other. They are all only as good as the weakest link

[moish]

The primary difference is that plain rabanut does not have full control over which ingredients they do or did not accept. It is only meant to be a minimal standard of kosher and they all accept from each other. They are all only as good as the weakest link

That's the primary difference? Nothing to do with oversight?

[aygart]

That's the primary difference? Nothing to do with oversight?

For oversight you would need to check each one

[moish]

For oversight you would need to check each one

I'm referring to implementation of guidelines. I think that is the main difference, not merely which ingredients they accept.

[aygart]

I'm referring to implementation of guidelines. I think that is the main difference, not merely which ingredients they accept.

Either one without the other is worth little so it makes little difference. It becomes a question of how you look at it.

[ExGingi]

The primary difference is that plain rabanut does not have full control over which ingredients they do or did not accept. It is only meant to be a minimal standard of kosher and they all accept from each other. They are all only as good as the weakest link

That is a very accurate description.

Since we are talking minimal standard, and relying on other weak links, there is also less use of Mashgichim at various stages.

IINM the Mehadrin "standard", at least for some "Rabbanut Mehadrin" and even private labels, also accept anything that otherwise says Mehadrin on it, which means it is as strong as that weakest link.

Since the Rabbanut is a governmental agency, they are limited in what they can reject, even in the Mehadrin standards. IINM in Tzfas they have 3 types of certificates for establishments, regular, Mehadrin (as per Rabbanut requirements) and another one for those who are really scrupulous and want something that is up to the local Rabbi's personal standards.

[moko]

generally it works as follows: they don't do an audit (or one of the other big 5 do an audit), prepare a report and analyze it. They not approve 100% on 100% of places checked but it's gotta be pretty close.

just noticed a big typo

[sky121]

 Machzikei Hadass, Antwerp -
Anyone know anything about this hechsher?

[yelped]

Sounds like the Belzer Kehillah there to me.

[joeberg]

Machzikei Hadass, Antwerp -
Anyone know anything about this hechsher?

That's the chareidi kehilla in Antwerp. It's    what everyone in Antwerp eats.

[sky121]

That's the chareidi kehilla in Antwerp. It's    what everyone in Antwerp eats.

Thanks

[churnbabychurn]

http://yudelstake.blogspot.com/2018/01/alert-oks-designation-of-cholov-yisroel.html?m=1

[Boruch999]

http://yudelstake.blogspot.com/2018/01/alert-oks-designation-of-cholov-yisroel.html?m=1

@moko

??

[aygart]

http://yudelstake.blogspot.com/2018/01/alert-oks-designation-of-cholov-yisroel.html?m=1

Innuendo

[ExGingi]

That's the chareidi kehilla in Antwerp. It's    what everyone in Antwerp eats.

IINM there's also a Shomrei Hadas Antwerp. Any information about that?

[moko]

Innuendo

+100

[joeberg]

IINM there's also a Shomrei Hadas Antwerp. Any information about that?

That's the other kehilla, I think closer to conservative according to the Antwerp chevra.

[yelped]

Innuendo

Classic Shain. Don't see how someone could take this guy seriously. This is not the way an Ehrliche Yid goes about things.