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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #2400 on: November 06, 2019, 07:43:18 PM »
How can we report kosher style restaurants to Google so that they don't have the "kosher" label?

If I understand correctly kosher is a legal term, in these cases it's malicious misinformation

P.s. Arthur's nosh bar is also treif with a kosher label

Does Google consider "kosher" a style?
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #2401 on: November 06, 2019, 07:57:59 PM »




If I understand correctly kosher is a legal term

Only in some states

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #2402 on: November 06, 2019, 10:52:58 PM »
Is "Kosher Miami" the "accepted by all" Hechsher in Miami, eaten by all northeastern vacationers, or are there known stricter ones? Looks like this is the most common hechsher.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #2403 on: November 07, 2019, 12:21:11 AM »
How can we report kosher style restaurants to Google so that they don't have the "kosher" label?

If I understand correctly kosher is a legal term, in these cases it's malicious misinformation

P.s. Arthur's nosh bar is also treif with a kosher label

Does Google consider "kosher" a style?
Report it, shouldn't say that.
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #2404 on: November 07, 2019, 12:37:09 AM »
Report it, shouldn't say that.
I couldn't find a way to report, but if you search the word "kosher" in the reviews it's a pity
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #2405 on: November 07, 2019, 12:39:37 AM »
I couldn't find a way to report, but if you search the word "kosher" in the reviews it's a pity
Can you post a link for that restaurant will try on my end thanks.
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #2406 on: November 07, 2019, 12:59:35 AM »
Is "Kosher Miami" the "accepted by all" Hechsher in Miami, eaten by all northeastern vacationers, or are there known stricter ones? Looks like this is the most common hechsher.

When I went to a restaurant under Kosher Miami last year there was a “mashgiach” , a young teen in jeans who was in charge of checking the strawberries, romaine, etc. No Bodek or positive, just off the shelf produce. I was not comfortable eating there. Definitely don’t expect Lakewood standards....

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #2407 on: November 07, 2019, 01:45:29 AM »
When I went to a restaurant under Kosher Miami last year there was a “mashgiach” , a young teen in jeans who was in charge of checking the strawberries, romaine, etc. No Bodek or positive, just off the shelf produce. I was not comfortable eating there. Definitely don’t expect Lakewood standards....
Bad news :-[.  Any Floridians here who can give more insights and help out a wannabe frum guy.. (i.e. non greenhouse grown like bodek unacceptable for me)

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #2408 on: November 07, 2019, 02:10:10 AM »
Anyone have info on Kosher LA? CRC says they dont have any info on the hechser.
They certify all the socal coffee beans, and some local restaurants & some packaged products.
Personally i have always eaten it, and afaik they are considered trustworthy.

This is no longer a recommended hechsher for restaurants (its most common application. CBTL may be an exception. search the Los Angeles Master Thread for details).
they do not certify ALL the socal CBTL, and you must lookf for and read the teudah at each.
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #2409 on: November 07, 2019, 07:16:04 AM »
Anyone have information about RCBC, is it considered a reliable hechsher?
Yes.

It's also on the cRc list.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #2410 on: November 07, 2019, 08:00:09 AM »
Can you post a link for that restaurant will try on my end thanks.
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #2412 on: November 07, 2019, 12:07:19 PM »
How can we report kosher style restaurants to Google so that they don't have the "kosher" label?

If I understand correctly kosher is a legal term, in these cases it's malicious misinformation

P.s. Arthur's nosh bar is also treif with a kosher label

Does Google consider "kosher" a style?

This is what happens in the era of keywords and google. I am not 100% sure how googles algorithms work, but I can only imagine that a restaurant that says on it's web page - 'We are a kosher style deli that serves traditional foods, but are not certified as kosher' will probably show up in search results.

Even if google was willing and able to police them, you'd still wind up with restaurants that had less than reputable hashgachot, and then what? - Take Ben's Deli in NY for example - https://www.bensdeli.net/ - I don't know anyone frum who eats there, but they definitely have a hashgacha, which is sufficient enough under NY Law.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #2413 on: November 07, 2019, 01:55:34 PM »
This is what happens in the era of keywords and google. I am not 100% sure how googles algorithms work, but I can only imagine that a restaurant that says on it's web page - 'We are a kosher style deli that serves traditional foods, but are not certified as kosher' will probably show up in search results.

Even if google was willing and able to police them, you'd still wind up with restaurants that had less than reputable hashgachot, and then what? - Take Ben's Deli in NY for example - https://www.bensdeli.net/ - I don't know anyone frum who eats there, but they definitely have a hashgacha, which is sufficient enough under NY Law.
The rabbi is conservative. They also have the Triangle K hechsher from the meat plant on their website to make it look more legitimate.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #2414 on: November 08, 2019, 08:52:48 AM »
The rabbi is conservative. They also have the Triangle K hechsher from the meat plant on their website to make it look more legitimate.

That wasn't my point. My point is this:
- It's difficult for google to police every restaurant that uses the keywords 'Jewish or Kosher' - even if the website makes it clear that they aren't kosher, but kosher/jewish style.

- Even if google could police those terms better, it legally can't eliminate a restaurant that has a hashgacha of any kind, regardless of how reputable any particular person thinks it is.

Being cognizant of the differences in minhagim and chumras, it's almost impossible to verify that every 'kosher' restaurant meets your standard. For example, there are those that have a minhag to only eat cheese that's been pasteurized at a temperature over 212 degrees F. Even if you searched for 'Kosher Cholov Yisroel Pizza'. You'd still probably a get a significant number of them that were not using "212 Cheese". 

The bottom line - search or no search, you need to check the kashrus of any place you eat at and not rely on a search.