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Links to kosher symbol lists. Each list is obviously only as reliable as its source

cRc: http://www.crcweb.org/agency_list.php

KosherQuest: https://kosherquest.org/kosher-symbols/

Approved alcoholic drinks from the Rabbanut.  http://www.jerusalemkoshernews.com/wp-content/uploads/%D7%9E%D7%A9%D7%A7%D7%90%D7%95%D7%AA-%D7%97%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%99%D7%9D-%D7%9E%D7%90%D7%95%D7%A9%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%9D.pdf

These are NOT Orthodox: https://sites.google.com/site/nonorthodoxkosher/home (even though some may look legit)

You can also submit any kashrus questions at
https://www.askcrc.org/ask
https://oukosher.org/ask-kosher-question/
https://www.star-k.org/ask-rabbi choose General Consumer Kashrus Questions in the Subject/Topic Dropdown list
https://www.ok.org/contact/ choose Kosher in the Attention Dropdown list



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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5160 on: September 02, 2023, 09:51:10 PM »
If the oil was processed in way that it would be נאסר then it would be חנ"ן and assur the popcorn.
If that issur is nosen taam lfgam in the popcorn, it would not assur the popcorn.
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5161 on: September 02, 2023, 11:36:33 PM »
If the lard, tallow, or fish oil is nosen taam l'fgam on the popcorn, it would be batel. Is there anything processed at these factories that wouldn't be nosen taam l'fgam when used for popcorn? I don't think they're processing bacon grease
But as was mentioned before, it is very unclear that they are pogem. Also the precessing plant can very well be precessing bacon fat or ghee.
« Last Edit: September 03, 2023, 12:21:40 AM by aygart »
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5162 on: September 02, 2023, 11:37:07 PM »
If the oil was processed in way that it would be נאסר then it would be חנ"ן and assur the popcorn.
אין הנאסר אוסר.....
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5163 on: September 03, 2023, 03:34:56 AM »
The case in the article was that kosher oil was used today. The concern is that non kosher oil was used in the past. That oil would now be נטל"פ. This is comparable to the תורת חטאת vis a vis the nuts in Krakow.
However, it is highly unlikely that non kosher oil was ever used. לא מיבעיא in countries where all vegetable oil is considered kosher, but even in USA where there is no such policy, the primary brands seem to all be kosher. There is no incentive for a popcorn stand to use a niche oil.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5164 on: September 03, 2023, 06:21:33 AM »
The case in the article was that kosher oil was used today.
He seems to be concerned that you didn't definitively establish that, as perhaps they weren't saying the truth and showing a kosher one while using problematic ones. (Obviously if there aren't any non kosher ones used there would be little cause for this concern.)

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5165 on: September 03, 2023, 11:26:26 AM »
This week's Voice has R Aurbach of the KSA bashing R Mehlman from the NKS for certifying Playa Bwols in Howell.

I found this very odd, as R Mehlman is considered quite reliable by those who know him. (My family was from the West Side and relies on his hechsher). He is definitely not a Mehadrin hechsher - he has his kulos- but he is reliable and on top of the situation.  That's why he writes, for example, strawberries aren't certified. You need to read the sign. But he has a mashgiach checking the place out.

It may not be Lakewood standards, but again, it's chalav Stam as it is. Attacking him for certifying a kosher place seems odd.

Auerbach should go after LKO if he wants to attack anyone in Lakewood. Mehlman is a far more reliable alternaitve.
He also called out Ritaís and Joseph and David, but The Voice didnít let that part through.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5166 on: September 03, 2023, 12:14:21 PM »
He also called out Ritaís and Joseph and David, but The Voice didnít let that part through.
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5167 on: September 03, 2023, 02:55:08 PM »
אין הנאסר אוסר.....
Is the oil smeared on the popcorn taam or mamashus?

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5168 on: September 03, 2023, 02:55:31 PM »
Is the oil smeared on the popcorn taam or mamashus?
Smeared?
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5169 on: September 03, 2023, 03:04:33 PM »
Smeared?
It is saturated and very oily

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5170 on: September 03, 2023, 03:08:49 PM »
It is saturated and very oily
Popcorn?
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5171 on: September 03, 2023, 03:16:12 PM »

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5172 on: September 03, 2023, 04:29:07 PM »
This is comparable to the תורת חטאת vis a vis the nuts in Krakow.
On that topic, he has a tshuva where he permits olive oil that was stored in barrels smeared with pig lard. He assumes itís taam lfgam in the oil.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5173 on: September 03, 2023, 07:22:52 PM »
Not oily?
Not comparable at all to things like chips, fries, Chinese  chicken nuggets.
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5174 on: September 03, 2023, 07:31:07 PM »
Not comparable at all to things like chips, fries, Chinese  chicken nuggets.
Ok not comparable, but there is still some oil, some times more than others.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5175 on: September 03, 2023, 08:12:35 PM »
Ok not comparable, but there is still some oil, some times more than others.
Not that I would call b'ein. Keep in mind it is the unpopped kernel that was in the oil.
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5176 on: September 03, 2023, 11:25:39 PM »
Remember that several products are acceptable even without a hechsher. So, the product in question will determine its necessity.

A humorous way to describe an untrustworthy hechsher is: "It's a suitable certification for water."

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5178 on: September 04, 2023, 07:42:39 PM »
He also called out Rita’s and Joseph and David, but The Voice didn’t let that part through.
I guess Rita's and Joseph and David advertise in the voice and playa bowls does not

(more likely they don't want to start up with Rabbi Yofee or Rabbi Neustadt and don't have that concern with Rabbi Mehlman)

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5179 on: September 04, 2023, 07:45:54 PM »
Remember that several products are acceptable even without a hechsher. So, the product in question will determine its necessity.

Popcorn popped in hot lard probably doesn't qualify