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Links to kosher symbol lists. Each list is obviously only as reliable as its source

cRc: http://www.crcweb.org/agency_list.php

KosherQuest: https://kosherquest.org/kosher-symbols/

Approved alcoholic drinks from the Rabbanut.  http://www.jerusalemkoshernews.com/wp-content/uploads/%D7%9E%D7%A9%D7%A7%D7%90%D7%95%D7%AA-%D7%97%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%99%D7%9D-%D7%9E%D7%90%D7%95%D7%A9%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%9D.pdf

These are NOT Orthodox: https://sites.google.com/site/nonorthodoxkosher/home (even though some may look legit)


Informative post regarding Kashrus Agencies
Every hashgacha has +&-.


You can also submit any kashrus questions at
https://www.askcrc.org/ask
https://oukosher.org/ask-kosher-question/
https://www.star-k.org/ask-rabbi choose General Consumer Kashrus Questions in the Subject/Topic Dropdown list
https://www.ok.org/contact/ choose Kosher in the Attention Dropdown list



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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5400 on: October 03, 2023, 11:12:33 AM »
Is this based on rapid growth? If yes then it is worthless.
This is irrelevant

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5401 on: October 03, 2023, 11:14:17 AM »
Correct but what those important differences were has not been forthcoming. It was only a vague statement that their standards must be lower in some unknown way.
Ok. My point stands.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5402 on: October 03, 2023, 02:55:41 PM »
Ok. My point stands.
thank you imayid2.

That really was all i was trying to bring out. That Kehillos has a lower standard than the gold standard of the top 4-5 ones.

Not that it can't be relied on.
Not to start rumors that its not good.
Only to help those who want to use only the top Hechsheirim or, like myself (who does eat Kehillos), to know what to send to the Frummy neighbor when they have a baby and don't want the whole dish in the dumpster the next day.

And yes. The experts say the same. You don't have to listen to them. You can eat what you want. You don't have to listen to your doctor either when he tells you that one food is healthier than another either.
 

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5403 on: October 03, 2023, 02:59:49 PM »
thank you imayid2.

That really was all i was trying to bring out. That Kehillos has a lower standard than the gold standard of the top 4-5 ones.

Not that it can't be relied on.
Not to start rumors that its not good.
Only to help those who want to use only the top Hechsheirim or, like myself (who does eat Kehillos), to know what to send to the Frummy neighbor when they have a baby and don't want the whole dish in the dumpster the next day.

And yes. The experts say the same. You don't have to listen to them. You can eat what you want. You don't have to listen to your doctor either when he tells you that one food is healthier than another either.
Kashrus =/= nutrition. Do you get more gan eden for only eating from "top" hechsherim?
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5404 on: October 03, 2023, 03:08:18 PM »
Kashrus =/= nutrition. Do you get more gan eden for only eating from "top" hechsherim?
Why doesn’t everyone just eat Rabanut ::)

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5405 on: October 03, 2023, 03:12:16 PM »
Why doesn’t everyone just eat Rabanut ::)
;D ;D ;D
On the subject of Rabbanut.
I heard from a Rav a good vort.
If there was a Mitzvah to eat treif you would be not be Yotzei with Rabbanut.
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5406 on: October 03, 2023, 03:18:12 PM »
Kashrus =/= nutrition. Do you get more gan eden for only eating from "top" hechsherim?
I don't know. But I think eating the Top Hechsheirim has to do with many factors (in no particular order):
1) Your general approach to Yiddishkeit (Are you more Brisker or more Modern Orthodox)
2) Your Minhagim
3) The area you live
4) The type of people you associate with/spend time with (Yeshivish, Balebatish, etc. etc,)
5) Your financial means
6) What your personal Rav holds
7) What your spouse wants
8 ) How often are you on the road/ not eating at your own house
9) How much you've seen in the field of Kashrus
10) How much Yiras Shamayim you have

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5407 on: October 03, 2023, 03:19:03 PM »
;D ;D ;D
On the subject of Rabbanut.
I heard from a Rav a good vort.
If there was a Mitzvah to eat treif you would be not be Yotzei with Rabbanut.
 :) :) :)
>:(
Motzei Shem ra!  >:( >:(
Politics!!! >:(
It is not important what goes in the mouth rather what goes out! (Source: Mathew 15)

Hope I didn’t miss anything :)

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5408 on: October 03, 2023, 03:52:54 PM »
That really was all i was trying to bring out. That Kehillos has a lower standard than the gold standard of the top 4-5 ones.
Is this fact based or an opinion?

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5409 on: October 03, 2023, 03:53:12 PM »
And yes. The experts say the same. You don't have to listen to them. You can eat what you want. You don't have to listen to your doctor either when he tells you that one food is healthier than another either.
Your doctor also gives opinions not based on facts or research? Common man...

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5410 on: October 03, 2023, 04:06:38 PM »
Your doctor also gives opinions not based on facts or research? Common man...
Let me break this down for you.

He said The Experts say so. Presumably The Experts’s opinions are based on facts and research. Thus the doctor analogy.
 

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5411 on: October 03, 2023, 04:10:18 PM »
Let me break this down for you.

He said The Experts say so. Presumably The Experts’s opinions are based on facts and research. Thus the doctor analogy.
Objection! Hearsay, your honor.
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5412 on: October 03, 2023, 05:22:40 PM »
Is this fact based or an opinion?

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5413 on: October 03, 2023, 05:27:19 PM »
Is this based on rapid growth? If yes then it is worthless.

Rapid growth can definitely be a huge red flag. Every hechsher that spreads rapidly in Israel is usually worthless. Think Keter Kashrus, Rupshitz, Kaduri and all the other bogus hechsherim. They proliferated nearly overnight. Same with IKC in NYC. Whenever there's rapid growth and no explanation of standards it's a huge red flag. If it's taking over everyone who lost a hechsher, such as CupK / Steinberg, it's a double red flag.
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5414 on: October 03, 2023, 05:34:22 PM »
Why doesn’t everyone just eat Rabanut ::)
Because their standards are not up to par
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5415 on: October 03, 2023, 05:57:28 PM »
Rapid growth can definitely be a huge red flag. Every hechsher that spreads rapidly in Israel is usually worthless. Think Keter Kashrus, Rupshitz, Kaduri and all the other bogus hechsherim. They proliferated nearly overnight. Same with IKC in NYC. Whenever there's rapid growth and no explanation of standards it's a huge red flag. If it's taking over everyone who lost a hechsher, such as CupK / Steinberg, it's a double red flag.
I'm not familiar with the israeli hechsherim you mentioned, and I don't know how quickly CupK and IKC grew, but what right does anyone have to start spreading rumors based on conjecture?
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5416 on: October 03, 2023, 06:08:13 PM »
Because their standards are not up to par
Define “on par”

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5417 on: October 03, 2023, 06:12:27 PM »
Define “on par”
They allow non-glatt
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5418 on: October 03, 2023, 06:17:50 PM »
I don't care about rapid overnight growth, all I care is for them to properly attend to the phones when בי"ד של מעלה is calling to verify something, while I'm anxiously waiting for the heavenly decree if I deserve hell or paradise, I want no voicemails or being transferred like a ball.
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5419 on: October 03, 2023, 06:25:59 PM »
I don't care about rapid overnight growth, all I care is for them to properly attend to the phones when בי"ד של מעלה is calling to verify something, while I'm anxiously waiting for the heavenly decree if I deserve hell or paradise, I want no voicemails or being transferred like a ball.
Lo bashamyim hee, BDS"M is not calling with any questions. They work with the info available to you at the time.
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