Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread

[imayid2]

Is this based on rapid growth? If yes then it is worthless.

This is irrelevant

[imayid2]

Correct but what those important differences were has not been forthcoming. It was only a vague statement that their standards must be lower in some unknown way.

Ok. My point stands.

[Moshe Green]

Ok. My point stands.

thank you imayid2.

That really was all i was trying to bring out. That Kehillos has a lower standard than the gold standard of the top 4-5 ones.

Not that it can't be relied on.
Not to start rumors that its not good.
Only to help those who want to use only the top Hechsheirim or, like myself (who does eat Kehillos), to know what to send to the Frummy neighbor when they have a baby and don't want the whole dish in the dumpster the next day.

And yes. The experts say the same. You don't have to listen to them. You can eat what you want. You don't have to listen to your doctor either when he tells you that one food is healthier than another either.
 

[avromie7]

thank you imayid2.

That really was all i was trying to bring out. That Kehillos has a lower standard than the gold standard of the top 4-5 ones.

Not that it can't be relied on.
Not to start rumors that its not good.
Only to help those who want to use only the top Hechsheirim or, like myself (who does eat Kehillos), to know what to send to the Frummy neighbor when they have a baby and don't want the whole dish in the dumpster the next day.

And yes. The experts say the same. You don't have to listen to them. You can eat what you want. You don't have to listen to your doctor either when he tells you that one food is healthier than another either.

Kashrus =/= nutrition. Do you get more gan eden for only eating from "top" hechsherim?

[imayid2]

Kashrus =/= nutrition. Do you get more gan eden for only eating from "top" hechsherim?

Why doesn’t everyone just eat Rabanut

[Moshe Green]

Why doesn’t everyone just eat Rabanut

On the subject of Rabbanut.
I heard from a Rav a good vort.
If there was a Mitzvah to eat treif you would be not be Yotzei with Rabbanut.
 

[Moshe Green]

Kashrus =/= nutrition. Do you get more gan eden for only eating from "top" hechsherim?

I don't know. But I think eating the Top Hechsheirim has to do with many factors (in no particular order):
1) Your general approach to Yiddishkeit (Are you more Brisker or more Modern Orthodox)
2) Your Minhagim
3) The area you live
4) The type of people you associate with/spend time with (Yeshivish, Balebatish, etc. etc,)
5) Your financial means
6) What your personal Rav holds
7) What your spouse wants
8 ) How often are you on the road/ not eating at your own house
9) How much you've seen in the field of Kashrus
10) How much Yiras Shamayim you have

[imayid2]

On the subject of Rabbanut.
I heard from a Rav a good vort.
If there was a Mitzvah to eat treif you would be not be Yotzei with Rabbanut.
 

Motzei Shem ra! 
Politics!!!
It is not important what goes in the mouth rather what goes out! (Source: Mathew 15)

Hope I didn’t miss anything

[JMHO]

That really was all i was trying to bring out. That Kehillos has a lower standard than the gold standard of the top 4-5 ones.

Is this fact based or an opinion?

[JMHO]

And yes. The experts say the same. You don't have to listen to them. You can eat what you want. You don't have to listen to your doctor either when he tells you that one food is healthier than another either.

Your doctor also gives opinions not based on facts or research? Common man...

[imayid2]

Your doctor also gives opinions not based on facts or research? Common man...

Let me break this down for you.

He said The Experts say so. Presumably The Experts’s opinions are based on facts and research. Thus the doctor analogy.
 

[avromie7]

Let me break this down for you.

He said The Experts say so. Presumably The Experts’s opinions are based on facts and research. Thus the doctor analogy.

Objection! Hearsay, your honor.

[TheAsh]

Is this fact based or an opinion?

Username checks out.

[TheAsh]

Is this based on rapid growth? If yes then it is worthless.

Rapid growth can definitely be a huge red flag. Every hechsher that spreads rapidly in Israel is usually worthless. Think Keter Kashrus, Rupshitz, Kaduri and all the other bogus hechsherim. They proliferated nearly overnight. Same with IKC in NYC. Whenever there's rapid growth and no explanation of standards it's a huge red flag. If it's taking over everyone who lost a hechsher, such as CupK / Steinberg, it's a double red flag.

[aygart]

Why doesn’t everyone just eat Rabanut

Because their standards are not up to par

[avromie7]

Rapid growth can definitely be a huge red flag. Every hechsher that spreads rapidly in Israel is usually worthless. Think Keter Kashrus, Rupshitz, Kaduri and all the other bogus hechsherim. They proliferated nearly overnight. Same with IKC in NYC. Whenever there's rapid growth and no explanation of standards it's a huge red flag. If it's taking over everyone who lost a hechsher, such as CupK / Steinberg, it's a double red flag.

I'm not familiar with the israeli hechsherim you mentioned, and I don't know how quickly CupK and IKC grew, but what right does anyone have to start spreading rumors based on conjecture?

[imayid2]

Because their standards are not up to par

Define “on par”

[avromie7]

Define “on par”

They allow non-glatt

[Alexsei]

I don't care about rapid overnight growth, all I care is for them to properly attend to the phones when בי"ד של מעלה is calling to verify something, while I'm anxiously waiting for the heavenly decree if I deserve hell or paradise, I want no voicemails or being transferred like a ball.

[avromie7]

I don't care about rapid overnight growth, all I care is for them to properly attend to the phones when בי"ד של מעלה is calling to verify something, while I'm anxiously waiting for the heavenly decree if I deserve hell or paradise, I want no voicemails or being transferred like a ball.

Lo bashamyim hee, BDS"M is not calling with any questions. They work with the info available to you at the time.