Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread

[imayid2]

If there is any “minhag” pertaining to home based business, it is that people bought without a hechsher (doesn’t mean that shouldn’t be changed).

[imayid2]

If we are going to start claiming that we are all bound by the minhag of the makom we all originated from…

[imayid2]

If there is any “minhag” pertaining to home based business, it is that people bought without a hechsher (doesn’t mean that shouldn’t be changed).

Some very interesting history regarding establishments without hecsheirim/mashgichim in early America @17:11: (As for the halacha, he is missing some important points)

[imayid2]

shitos that are very clearly held to be true by a significant number of rabbanim and poskim

Who are you referring to?

[Moshe_N]

Just bought a pack of Ricola Berry Medley's (website shows its kosher with a teudat kashrut) only to find out that the CRC doesn't hold by it? Someone want to explain this? Is it kosher?

[Alexsei]

Just bought a pack of Ricola Berry Medley's (website shows its kosher with a teudat kashrut) only to find out that the CRC doesn't hold by it? Someone want to explain this? Is it kosher?

The CRC only recommends certain flavors

[Moshe_N]

Right, is that to say that the mashgiach who gave their teudat kashrut on nearly all flavors is not a reliable mashgiach?

[Alexsei]

Right, is that to say that the mashgiach who gave their teudat kashrut on nearly all flavors is not a reliable mashgiach?

What makes you think there's a mashgiach?
Certificate ≠ Mashgiach

[Moshe_N]

https://ricola-cdn-ep.azureedge.net/cmsstorage/ricola/media/content/-common/faq/2022-kosher-certificate-worldwide.pdf
Says his name right there

[yitzgar]

The CRC only recommends certain flavors

What about packages that have a hechsher on them?

[Alexsei]

What about packages that have a hechsher on them?

They're recommended by that hechsher. I don't think that hechsher is on the CRC list, hence the CRC only recommends certain flavors

[HudZ]

Just bought a pack of Ricola Berry Medley's (website shows its kosher with a teudat kashrut) only to find out that the CRC doesn't hold by it? Someone want to explain this? Is it kosher?

If it has any grape juices, it's for sure a problem...

[Moshe_N]

Ingredients show no grape juice

[yfr bachur]

but we have to keep in mind - eilu veilu divrei elokim chaim.

This is just wrong

I've personally heard a number of poskim point to the V4A as (part of) the reason we are mechuyav to buy only with a hechsher.
True, I didn't put a spit through them and roast them on a slow fire until they revealed exactly which lomdus they were using to say that. Whether it was the original takana, or a hanhaga that KY took on itself, or minhag avoseinu, or makam shenahagu, or any other one of a number of mehalchim.
The fact is that there are poskim who see the takanos of the V4A as a contributing factor in the halachic process.
You don't have to like it. You don't have to accept it. You do have to have respect for them.

I don't know who you are in real life. You may have a respected rabbinic position, or you may be a very learned Baal Habos. I don't really care, bec on the forum you are just an anonymous member of klal yisroel, and need to act with respect towards rabbanim and poskim.

(BTW If you have a problem with Rabbi Blier's positions or choice of wording, his email address is not a secret - why don't you email him and ask him? That way we all can learn)

[imayid2]

I've personally heard a number of poskim point to the V4A as (part of) the reason we are mechuyav to buy only with a hechsher.
True, I didn't put a spit through them and roast them on a slow fire until they revealed exactly which lomdus they were using to say that. Whether it was the original takana, or a hanhaga that KY took on itself, or minhag avoseinu, or makam shenahagu, or any other one of a number of mehalchim.
The fact is that there are poskim who see the takanos of the V4A as a contributing factor in the halachic process.
You don't have to like it. You don't have to accept it. You do have to have respect for them.

I don't know who you are in real life. You may have a respected rabbinic position, or you may be a very learned Baal Habos. I don't really care, bec on the forum you are just an anonymous member of klal yisroel, and need to act with respect towards rabbanim and poskim.

(BTW If you have a problem with Rabbi Blier's positions or choice of wording, his email address is not a secret - why don't you email him and ask him? That way we all can learn)

I never heard this Rabbi Blier and quite frankly don’t see a lack of respect in pointing out that he’s incorrect without contacting him first. The fact that an anonymous guy unfortunately conflated that with something else he heard from other anonymous rabbis none withstanding.

[imayid2]

And being lectured by this anonymous fellow about my “name calling” as if I went on a vitriolic cursing spree is comical.

[lover of truth]

And being lectured by this anonymous fellow about my “name calling” as if I went on a vitriolic cursing spree is comical.

+1000

[lover of truth]

lets be honest
eating from yungermans wife who sells cake is more trustworthy than the best hechsher in the world on a bakery owned by irreligious/goy with a bunch if treif eating workers coming in and out
either eat neither or only eat at home but dont feel frum by eating hechsger and not homemade from ehrlich guy

[Yehudaa]

lets be honest
eating from yungermans wife who sells cake is more trustworthy than the best hechsher in the world on a bakery owned by irreligious/goy with a bunch if treif eating workers coming in and out
either eat neither or only eat at home but dont feel frum by eating hechsger and not homemade from ehrlich guy

Are you speaking in terms of Halacha (ne’emanus, negius, etc.), or is this just you the way you feel?

[moko]

lets be honest
eating from yungermans wife who sells cake is more trustworthy than the best hechsher in the world on a bakery owned by irreligious/goy with a bunch if treif eating workers coming in and out
either eat neither or only eat at home but dont feel frum by eating hechsger and not homemade from ehrlich guy

does this include random ads in Mishpacha, Ami, Bina etc that say all ingredients Badatz ?