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Links to kosher symbol lists. Each list is obviously only as reliable as its source

cRc: http://www.crcweb.org/agency_list.php

KosherQuest: https://kosherquest.org/kosher-symbols/

Approved alcoholic drinks from the Rabbanut.  http://www.jerusalemkoshernews.com/wp-content/uploads/%D7%9E%D7%A9%D7%A7%D7%90%D7%95%D7%AA-%D7%97%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%99%D7%9D-%D7%9E%D7%90%D7%95%D7%A9%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%9D.pdf

These are NOT Orthodox: https://sites.google.com/site/nonorthodoxkosher/home (even though some may look legit)


Informative post regarding Kashrus Agencies
Every hashgacha has +&-.


You can also submit any kashrus questions at
https://www.askcrc.org/ask
https://oukosher.org/ask-kosher-question/
https://www.star-k.org/ask-rabbi choose General Consumer Kashrus Questions in the Subject/Topic Dropdown list
https://www.ok.org/contact/ choose Kosher in the Attention Dropdown list



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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #6400 on: May 09, 2024, 08:19:43 PM »
It is clear from the חכמת אדם that it is not a heter to create a ס״ס. Iíll post when I have a chance.
Please share. The Ta"z is pretty clear that it is not a problem.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #6401 on: May 09, 2024, 08:20:06 PM »
Please share. The Ta"z is pretty clear that it is not a problem.
No, he isnít.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #6402 on: May 09, 2024, 08:21:08 PM »
No, he isnít.
ok then.... please explain yourself.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #6403 on: May 09, 2024, 08:22:26 PM »
ok then.... please explain yourself.
Why donít you explain how the Taz is clear there isnít? I donít know what you are referring to.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #6404 on: May 09, 2024, 08:25:55 PM »
Why donít you explain how the Taz is clear there isnít? I donít know what you are referring to.
See Ta"z סימן פ"ד ס"ק כ
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #6405 on: May 09, 2024, 08:32:18 PM »
See Ta"z סימן פ"ד ס"ק כ
עיין ברכי יוסף שם

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #6406 on: May 09, 2024, 08:41:55 PM »
עיין ברכי יוסף שם
ישר כח for the מראה מקום.
So it is a מחלוקת, and he is confirming that this is the שיטה pf the Ta"z and maybe others.
Nonetheless it is the pashtus.
Again, I'm not convinced that this is so. Regardless, the ספר you quoted should not have said it as a הנחה פשוטה  if there is a מפורש ט"ז that is מתיר.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #6407 on: May 09, 2024, 08:42:53 PM »
If it is a מחלוקת, would we say on this ספק דרבנן לקולא?
This is one of the צדדים I heard from a choshuver ת"ח in Lakewood to be מתיר blending frozen strawberries/blueberries (that are only מצוי not מוחזק) in smoothies, even after YF found whole בריה after blending.
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #6408 on: May 09, 2024, 09:02:20 PM »
If you have a good blender (Vitamix for example) there's no Safek that if there was a Miut Hamatzui of bugs that they're blended and Batul.  So as long as אין כוונתו לבטל you're good.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #6409 on: May 09, 2024, 09:28:29 PM »
If it is a מחלוקת, would we say on this ספק דרבנן לקולא?
First youíd need to get to the bottom of it.

See the Pri migadim that the Taz is very shver, as pashtus you donít need ס״ס there at all. The חידושי הרי״ם is מתמה on the Taz similar to ברכ״י.

Fwiu  בית שלמה suggests the Taz is only saying it when itís anyways mutar מעיקר הדין, כקושית הפרי מגדים.

Main point Iím making is the heter is very questionable. Not saying itís pashut its assur.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #6410 on: May 09, 2024, 09:28:58 PM »
Many achronim hold that a safek issur is mutar to be mevatal לכתחילה, even if itís כוונתו לבטל. According to them any safek can be made into a ס״ס? This cannot be, that would render אין עושין בידים virtually obsolete.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #6412 on: May 09, 2024, 10:06:56 PM »
If you have a good blender (Vitamix for example) there's no Safek that if there was a Miut Hamatzui of bugs that they're blended and Batul.  So as long as אין כוונתו לבטל you're good.
I would not say 'there is no ספק'. Much research has suggested otherwise...

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #6413 on: May 09, 2024, 10:10:24 PM »
Nonetheless it is the pashtus.
Main point Iím making is the heter is very questionable. Not saying itís pashut its assur.
OK. Good that you are backing down and we finally see eye to eye on this  :)
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #6414 on: May 09, 2024, 10:11:04 PM »
I would not say 'there is no ספק'. Much research has suggested otherwise...
What research? I don't believe that it's possible for there to be a Berya that's נראה לעין after being blended in a high powered blender (Vitamix). Anyone that uses one would probably agree...

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #6415 on: May 09, 2024, 10:11:45 PM »
What research? I don't believe that it's possible for there to be a Berya that's נראה לעין after being blended in a high powered blender (Vitamix). Anyone that uses one would probably agree...
Just because it can't be found in the blended mixture doesn't mean it is not visible
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #6416 on: May 09, 2024, 10:14:45 PM »
Just because it can't be found in the blended mixture doesn't mean it is not visible
I don't believe there's any research to suggest that a high powered blender does not blend bugs, it even blends the tiny seeds of the strawberry (unlike regular blenders). Again, anyone that uses knows there's absolutely no pieces visible or even "feelable" to the tounge.
If you have research to suggest otherwise I'd love to see it.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #6417 on: May 09, 2024, 10:16:03 PM »
What research? I don't believe that it's possible for there to be a Berya that's נראה לעין after being blended in a high powered blender (Vitamix). Anyone that uses one would probably agree...
I also found it hard to believe, but there is a whole group of מומחים (who are trustworthy ehrliche yungeleit) who have been researching this for years, and concluded otherwise. You need to be מברר by these mumchim before taking a stand.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #6418 on: May 09, 2024, 10:18:14 PM »
I also found it hard to believe, but there is a whole group of מומחים (who are trustworthy ehrliche yungeleit) who have been researching this for years, and concluded otherwise.
I spoke to 2 Mumchim that do this for a living. They never found anything that went through a high powered blender. (Although one of them did find full visible bugs that went through a "regular" blender.

The research you're referring to was specifically about high powered blenders like a Vitamix?

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #6419 on: May 09, 2024, 10:18:56 PM »
What research? I don't believe that it's possible for there to be a Berya that's נראה לעין after being blended in a high powered blender (Vitamix). Anyone that uses one would probably agree...
If I recall correctly, the blending with a Vitamix discussion was discussed not too long ago.
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