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Links to kosher symbol lists. Each list is obviously only as reliable as its source

cRc: http://www.crcweb.org/agency_list.php

KosherQuest: https://kosherquest.org/kosher-symbols/

Approved alcoholic drinks from the Rabbanut.  http://www.jerusalemkoshernews.com/wp-content/uploads/%D7%9E%D7%A9%D7%A7%D7%90%D7%95%D7%AA-%D7%97%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%99%D7%9D-%D7%9E%D7%90%D7%95%D7%A9%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%9D.pdf

These are NOT Orthodox: https://sites.google.com/site/nonorthodoxkosher/home (even though some may look legit)


Informative post regarding Kashrus Agencies
Every hashgacha has +&-.


You can also submit any kashrus questions at
https://www.askcrc.org/ask
https://oukosher.org/ask-kosher-question/
https://www.star-k.org/ask-rabbi choose General Consumer Kashrus Questions in the Subject/Topic Dropdown list
https://www.ok.org/contact/ choose Kosher in the Attention Dropdown list



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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #6420 on: May 09, 2024, 10:35:04 PM »
First youíd need to get to the bottom of it.

See the Pri migadim that the Taz is very shver, as pashtus you donít need ס״ס there at all. The חידושי הרי״ם is מתמה on the Taz similar to ברכ״י.

Fwiu  בית שלמה suggests the Taz is only saying it when itís anyways mutar מעיקר הדין, כקושית הפרי מגדים.

Main point Iím making is the heter is very questionable. Not saying itís pashut its assur.
But you agree that the אחרונים you mentioned learn the Ta"z is being מיקל (besides for the בית שלמה). And a questionable היתר in a דין דרבנן  is precisely where we say ספק דרבנן לקולא.
I'm not saying that the פסק is to be meikil, I was just pointing out that what you said for a דבר פשוט that אין עושין ספ"ס בידים אפילו באין כונתו לבטל is far from פשוט. 
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #6421 on: May 09, 2024, 10:39:26 PM »
But you agree that the אחרונים you mentioned learn the Ta"z is being מיקל (besides for the בית שלמה). And a questionable היתר in a דין דרבנן  is precisely where we say ספק דרבנן לקולא.
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They ask on the Taz from a mefurash Rashba paskened in ShuĒa. You need to answer the problem before being somech on it.

I was just pointing out that what you said for a דבר פשוט that אין עושין ספ"ס בידים אפילו באין כונתו לבטל is far from פשוט. 
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Except that I never said for a davar pashut such a thing.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #6422 on: May 09, 2024, 10:41:48 PM »
The research you're referring to was specifically about high powered blenders like a Vitamix?
I believe so but don't know for certain.
I don't think the only factor is  the power of the blender, rather if every surface of the berry comes in contact with the blade. CMIIW

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #6423 on: May 09, 2024, 10:43:05 PM »
rather if every surface of the berry comes in contact with the blade. CMIIW
Just to put things into context, the blades on a Vitamix spin more than 500 times per second...

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #6424 on: May 09, 2024, 10:43:08 PM »
Sorry to interrupt the discussion.
Does anyone know why weiman granite cleaner no longer has an ou? (The green bottle). Was it ever necessary?

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #6425 on: May 09, 2024, 10:50:31 PM »
Good thing no one said it is.
Nonetheless it is the pashtus.
Except that I never said for a davar pashut such a thing.
You need to explain yourself. Did you say it was פשוט or not?
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #6426 on: May 09, 2024, 10:52:12 PM »
You need to explain yourself. Is it פשוט or not?
No

But the simple understanding would lead to such a conclusion

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #6427 on: May 09, 2024, 10:54:40 PM »
First youíd need to get to the bottom of it.

See the Pri migadim that the Taz is very shver, as pashtus you donít need ס״ס there at all. The חידושי הרי״ם is מתמה on the Taz similar to ברכ״י.

Fwiu  בית שלמה suggests the Taz is only saying it when itís anyways mutar מעיקר הדין, כקושית הפרי מגדים.

Main point Iím making is the heter is very questionable. Not saying itís pashut its assur.
רי״ם (possible really the  שפת אמת)



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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #6428 on: May 09, 2024, 10:59:20 PM »
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They ask on the Taz from a mefurash Rashba paskened in ShuĒa. You need to answer the problem before being somech on it.
Except that I never said for a davar pashut such a thing.
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The פרי מגדים does not pose this question whatsoever from the שלחן ערוך, and clearly learns the Ta"z is being meikil.
The ברכי יוסף also does not ask a קשיא. He just pointed out that the Ta"z is not like the שלחן ערוך. He doesn't ask anything, because the Ta"z many times agues on the שלחן ערוך.
The חידושי הרי"ם does ask it, and TBH I am not sure what the קשיא is.
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #6429 on: May 09, 2024, 11:08:08 PM »
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The פרי מגדים does not pose this question whatsoever from the שלחן ערוך, and clearly learns the Ta"z is being meikil.
He doesnít address this specific point so we donít really know his take on it.
The ברכי יוסף also does not ask a קשיא. He just pointed out that the Ta"z is not like the שלחן ערוך. He doesn't ask anything, because the Ta"z many times agues on the שלחן ערוך.
He argues on Rashbas without telling us?
No, he doesnít generally do that. Highly unlikely, and even if the ברכ״י understood that way, itís extremely unlikely for someone to Moreh to be meikal because of that.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #6430 on: May 09, 2024, 11:24:03 PM »
He argues on Rashbas without telling us? No, he doesnít generally do that. Highly unlikely, and even if the ברכ״י understood that way, itís extremely unlikely for someone to Moreh to be meikal because of that.
So the אחרונים learned the Ta"z not like you, and you say their position is extremely unlikely?

לסיכום הענין, I don't have a problem using the אחרונים understanding of the Ta"z as a tzad in a safek derabanan. If you disagree and hold there is no מקום to use the Ta"z, I respect your opinion as well. You seem to be an erudite ת"ח  :)
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #6431 on: May 09, 2024, 11:30:44 PM »
So the אחרונים don't see it like you, and you say their position is highly unlikely?
You say this as a plural, yet that word would be more appropriate to use for all of the achronim who are disagreeing with the Taz. (Including the חכמת אדם)
לסיכום הענין, I don't have a problem using the אחרונים understanding of the Ta"z as a tzad in a safek derabanan. If you disagree and hold there is no מקום to use the Ta"z
We donít need to use the Taz, there are other achronim that are explicitly meikal.
See שו״ת משאת משה סימן towards the beginning, (gimmel or daled, somewhere there. About grape leaves).
So it is definitely a valid tzad lhalacha. I was just pointing out that the original swinging at someone for being machmir on this (who I donít even know said lhalacha to be machmir), is kind of out of place.
I respect your opinion as well. You seem to be an erudite ת"ח  :)
Thank you, וכן למר.
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #6432 on: May 09, 2024, 11:39:29 PM »
You say this as a plural, yet that word would be more appropriate to use for all of the achronim who are disagreeing with the Taz. (Including the חכמת אדם)
See my edit in bold. I was refering to the way they learned the Ta"z, not their own opinion.
Thank you, וכן למר.
בסוף נעשו אוהבים זה לזה  :)

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #6433 on: May 10, 2024, 02:16:13 PM »
Is the whip cream at any Starbucks location Kosher?
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #6434 on: May 11, 2024, 04:26:28 PM »
Is the whip cream at any Starbucks location Kosher?
Depends where
Often kosher chalav stam

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #6435 on: May 11, 2024, 09:53:46 PM »
Depends where
Often kosher chalav stam
Ok. Thanks. So have to ask if Parve...
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #6436 on: May 11, 2024, 10:17:45 PM »
Ok. Thanks. So have to ask if Parve...

Unless they have a vegan version, it's highly unlikely to be parve.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #6437 on: May 11, 2024, 11:30:54 PM »
Unless they have a vegan version, it's highly unlikely to be parve.
Ok. Ty.
All are Kosher though? (Even if OU-D). Do all franchises have to use the same one?
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #6438 on: May 13, 2024, 07:03:16 PM »
Is there a list of which hechsheirim require a mashgiach temidi for lox?

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #6439 on: May 13, 2024, 07:15:27 PM »
Is there a list of which hechsheirim require a mashgiach temidi for lox?
I believe all the heimisshe, any national do?
Party over country.