Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread

[avromie7]

I've seen OU-D hundreds of times. I've never seen OU-dairy before. It's almost like they are stressing that fact.

My guess is it was a design choice. The OU doesn't require dairy to be spelled out.

[EliJelly]

They don’t label DE anymore, so even though it clearly doesn’t contain dairy ingredients it’s labeled dairy since keilim are dairy.

Why would they label it dairy when it's just DE? That would give the impression that it is not allowed to be consumed with or after meat, when in fact it would be allowed for those okay with CS.

[imayid2]

Why would they label it dairy when it's just DE? That would give the impression that it is not allowed to be consumed with or after meat, when in fact it would be allowed for those okay with CS.

It isn’t ok for anyone to eat it with meat

[EliJelly]

It isn’t ok for anyone to eat it with meat

For Sephardim. And Ashkenazim right after. And if not actually cooked on DE then for everyone.

[aygart]

Don't make chocolate-covered beef jerky, please.

[imayid2]

For Sephardim. And Ashkenazim right after. And if not actually cooked on DE then for everyone.

So it is important to label for ahkenazim so they don’t eat with meat.

[EliJelly]

So it is important to label for ahkenazim so they don’t eat with meat.

Still gives the impression that it's not to be consumed within 6 hours of meat, which is wrong.

[avromie7]

Still gives the impression that it's not to be consumed within 6 hours of meat, which is wrong.

As does every OU-D. This isn't any different.

[EliJelly]

As does every OU-D. This isn't any different.

Were they labeling OU-D just for DE?

[yungermanchik]

Were they labeling OU-D just for DE?

Yes, for decades.

[EliJelly]

Yes, for decades.

Really? Didn't know that.

[ushdadude]

As does every OU-D. This isn't any different.

I guess my question was if the OU-D and OU-dairy mean different things. And the fact that it has a large dairy sticker on it. I can't imagine the store did that.

[ushdadude]

My guess is it was a design choice. The OU doesn't require dairy to be spelled out.

That's a big assumption. I emailed the OU about this. Let's see what they say

[shulem92]

They don’t label DE anymore, so even though it clearly doesn’t contain dairy ingredients it’s labeled dairy since keilim are dairy.

they restarted

[shulem92]

Why would they label it dairy when it's just DE? That would give the impression that it is not allowed to be consumed with or after meat, when in fact it would be allowed for those okay with CS.

it’s up to the company. Some companies don’t want to have to limit themselves to DE. For example Oreos (which btw the original flavor ones are 100% pareve, not even DE)this way down the line if they ever want to change their formula they don’t need a whole new hechsher. From the OU’s standpoint it is a whole different hechsher as there are different requirements and it has a different label… nabisco doesn’t necessarily understand that there are people who wouldn’t eat it if it’s Chalav Stam

[gmd]

they restarted

 I had not seen it for many years, but just recently saw the Wal-Mart brand BBQ pringles labeled as DE

[ushdadude]

it’s up to the company. Some companies don’t want to have to limit themselves to DE. For example Oreos (which btw the original flavor ones are 100% pareve, not even DE)this way down the line if they ever want to change their formula they don’t need a whole new hechsher. From the OU’s standpoint it is a whole different hechsher as there are different requirements and it has a different label… nabisco doesn’t necessarily understand that there are people who wouldn’t eat it if it’s Chalav Stam

my question is OU-D vs OU-dairy. Is there a difference?
My assumption is that OU-D can include DE while OU-dairy wouldn't

[snagger]

it’s up to the company. Some companies don’t want to have to limit themselves to DE. For example Oreos (which btw the original flavor ones are 100% pareve, not even DE)this way down the line if they ever want to change their formula they don’t need a whole new hechsher. From the OU’s standpoint it is a whole different hechsher as there are different requirements and it has a different label… nabisco doesn’t necessarily understand that there are people who wouldn’t eat it if it’s Chalav Stam

How do you know that the original oreos are not even D-E?

[moko]

(which btw  some of the original flavor ones are 100% pareve, not even DE)

[shulem92]

I was referring to THE original flavor (classic Oreos) I guess my post wasn’t clear enough?