Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread

[Shush]

It is entirely plant based FWIU

Interesting.
Where does the whey come from?

[Iz]

Ignorant question: Is there any kosher grass fed/antibiotic free beef/poultry available in the Lakewood area?
Thanks.

[aygart]

Interesting.
Where does the whey come from?

https://perfectday.com/faqs/ I don't know if it is this specific company, but this idea.

[TheAsh]

https://www.target.com/p/bored-cow-animal-free-dairy-milk-original-32oz/-/A-89916159
Just came across this.

Seems like the OU is treating as Parve. Are there other opinions?

I know kofk certifies a plant based yogurt as dairy because it contains dairy cultures

[ExGingi]

are these considered reliable for wine?

Which of these is doing the actual work and which are rubber-stamping?

[Just A Jew]

Which of these is doing the actual work and which are rubber-stamping?

If I had to guess, OU is a blind stamp, Tartikov and BBY probably visited once, and Shomron is doing the work.

[aygart]

Which of these is doing the actual work and which are rubber-stamping?

They probably all share the same on site staff but input their standards.

[TheAsh]

Anyone recognize this hechsher? Reliable?

[yitzgar]

If I had to guess, OU is a blind stamp, Tartikov and BBY probably visited once, and Shomron is doing the work.

Do you have experience with these agencies that you say this?

[Just A Jew]

Do you have experience with these agencies that you say this?

Enough experience to venture a guess and qualify it as such. Others are definitely more qualified to give more definitive answers.

[chessman1]

Anyone recognize this hechsher? Reliable?

Rabbi Moshe Bendahan from Madrid.

https://www.cjmadrid.org/madrid-kosher?lang=en

[moko]

Which of these is doing the actual work and which are rubber-stamping?

they're all rubber stamping to the best of my knowledge. The wineries internal head mashgiach plays the field to see which agencies best suit the wineries needs but  they answer to him not him to them (to some extent) with the exception of the default local rabbanut

[Just A Jew]

they're all rubber stamping to the best of my knowledge. The wineries internal head mashgiach plays the field to see which agencies best suit the wineries needs but  they answer to him not him to them (to some extent) with the exception of the default local rabbanut

In your opinion, how can someone sort through the thousands of wines on the market today to figure out which  hechsherim are actually accountable and reliable?

[moko]

In your opinion, how can someone sort through the thousands of wines on the market today to figure out which  hechsherim are actually accountable and reliable?

beyond researching each individual wine (which is beyond the scope for even more conscientious consumers) , your left to rely on the hashgacha on the bottle. That's not necessarily a bad thing.
There are consumers who won't put something in their mouth if they don't know exactly where and how it was produced. This individuals generally don't consume very many manufactured goods. That's a level that most people aren't at.
I can give stories literally with almost every hashgacha that would cause some to question that hashgacha. I don't believe that just because I have a specific issue with said hashgacha, others can't rely on it.
You can try to find a local expert in that field who's willing to talk, but make sure he's actually an expert and not just shooting his mouth off

[Chilla]

they're all rubber stamping to the best of my knowledge. The wineries internal head mashgiach plays the field to see which agencies best suit the wineries needs but  they answer to him not him to them (to some extent) with the exception of the default local rabbanut

But if, for example, one of those hechsherim were yours, can I not assume that YOU fully trust that internal mashgiach and that you trust that everything is up to your hechshers' standards?
By you allowing your symbol, aren't you essentially saying that he's your man on the field?

[Just A Jew]

beyond researching each individual wine (which is beyond the scope for even more conscientious consumers) , your left to rely on the hashgacha on the bottle. That's not necessarily a bad thing.
There are consumers who won't put something in their mouth if they don't know exactly where and how it was produced. This individuals generally don't consume very many manufactured goods. That's a level that most people aren't at.
I can give stories literally with almost every hashgacha that would cause some to question that hashgacha. I don't believe that just because I have a specific issue with said hashgacha, others can't rely on it.
You can try to find a local expert in that field who's willing to talk, but make sure he's actually an expert and not just shooting his mouth off

The issue with wine in particular is the new minhag to have as many hechsherim as possible on the back. When I asked someone I trust in the hashgacha world about a certain wine, I was told that if the OU is not the only hechsher on the bottle, I cannot rely on the OU for the hashgacha, and it all depends on the other hechsher. (This was personal advice, not shmearing the OU, cv, AYLOR.) The question is, in a case like the bottle posted above, how is anyone supposed to know which hechsher is being relied upon? Who ultimately takes responsibility for the mashgiach on site? Who is being asked shailos?

[moko]

But if, for example, one of those hechsherim were yours, can I not assume that YOU fully trust that internal mashgiach and that you trust that everything is up to your hechshers' standards?
By you allowing your symbol, aren't you essentially saying that he's your man on the field?

that would be the official position of course....

[Dzla2]

In Mexico. Can’t find anything conclusive you know if this is reliable

[Chilla]

that would be the official position of course....

Please  elaborate for the thick headed....

[mevinyavin]

Rabbi Kuber is reporting that Weetabix from South Africa (found in IL) with exp date 11-28-2024 is muchzal letolaim and impossible to check, and he advises throwing it out (then adds to consult a Rav).

Suddenly big signs all over with haskamos from "Rabbi Berkowitz" (whoever that is) saying more or less the same thing.