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Links to kosher symbol lists. Each list is obviously only as reliable as its source


cRc: http://www.crcweb.org/agency_list.php

KosherQuest: https://kosherquest.org/kosher-symbols/

Approved alcoholic drinks from the Rabbanut.  http://www.jerusalemkoshernews.com/wp-content/uploads/%D7%9E%D7%A9%D7%A7%D7%90%D7%95%D7%AA-%D7%97%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%99%D7%9D-%D7%9E%D7%90%D7%95%D7%A9%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%9D.pdf

These are NOT Orthodox: https://sites.google.com/site/nonorthodoxkosher/home (even though some may look legit)


Informative post regarding Kashrus Agencies
Every hashgacha has +&-.


You can also submit any kashrus questions at
https://www.askcrc.org/ask
https://oukosher.org/ask-kosher-question/
https://www.star-k.org/ask-rabbi choose General Consumer Kashrus Questions in the Subject/Topic Dropdown list
https://www.ok.org/contact/ choose Kosher in the Attention Dropdown list


« Last edited by Alexsei on February 10, 2025, 01:09:33 PM »

Author Topic: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread  (Read 1368177 times)

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7080 on: December 15, 2024, 11:16:30 PM »
no but his hashgacha is literally worthless
What is he thinking by offering something that he his not comfortable on frum people relying on?

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7081 on: December 15, 2024, 11:23:11 PM »
he told me not to use his hashgacha

Because the standards are not in line with accepted psakim?

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7082 on: December 15, 2024, 11:43:59 PM »
He's pretty famous for allowing someone to sell his kehuna to enter a cemetery

That's a novel seller

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7083 on: December 15, 2024, 11:53:24 PM »
he told me not to use his hashgacha
Is he even a שומר תורה ומצוות? Like is he holding "interesting" shitos? Is he an am haaretz? Or more something like reform? #just curious
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7085 on: December 16, 2024, 08:29:11 AM »
https://thelakewoodscoop.com/news/petirah-of-reb-moshe-novoseller-zl/
BDE that's the first rabbi, sounds like a typical frum rabbi? Who's the second one? His cousin?
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7086 on: December 16, 2024, 08:33:16 AM »
BDE that's the first rabbi, sounds like a typical frum rabbi? Who's the second one? His cousin?

You got enough information to know whether the hechsher meets your standards. Everything else is just LH.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7087 on: December 22, 2024, 09:14:56 PM »
BDE that's the first rabbi, sounds like a typical frum rabbi? Who's the second one? His cousin?
My guess from reading that is that it's his nephew(?)

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7088 on: December 23, 2024, 04:26:41 PM »
That's a novel seller
Is there somewhere I can read more about historic debate, responsa or heterim of porcine gelatin or its equivalent ?  Or was it also a novel idea by the late Rabbi Novoseller?
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7089 on: December 23, 2024, 05:54:35 PM »
Is there somewhere I can read more about historic debate, responsa or heterim of porcine gelatin or its equivalent ?  Or was it also a novel idea by the late Rabbi Novoseller?

Here's an article about it.  https://www.torahmusings.com/2014/07/gelatin-halacha-recent-developments/

As noted, there has long been a big machlokes, though there were some big poskim who held that certain types of gelatin were kosher, even if made from treif animals, and many others of equivalent caliber who disagreed 100%.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7090 on: December 23, 2024, 06:01:54 PM »
Here's an article about it.  https://www.torahmusings.com/2014/07/gelatin-halacha-recent-developments/

As noted, there has long been a big machlokes, though there were some big poskim who held that certain types of gelatin were kosher, even if made from treif animals, and many others of equivalent caliber who disagreed 100%.
Interesting, looks like none of the heterim were accepted mainstream. I would think there's an extremely small subset of people that are makpid on kashrus so far that they won't consume a supplement without a hechsher, but will be ok consuming supplements containing porcine gelatin because it has a kosher symbol, my question is, is Ko catering to certain people or is Ko deliberately misleading?

This week alone I found three people who were naively using Ko supplements because "it must be a good enough hechsher for supplements"
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7091 on: December 23, 2024, 06:54:09 PM »
Here's an article about it.  https://www.torahmusings.com/2014/07/gelatin-halacha-recent-developments/

As noted, there has long been a big machlokes, though there were some big poskim who held that certain types of gelatin were kosher, even if made from treif animals, and many others of equivalent caliber who disagreed 100%.
one glaring inaccuracy.... Gelatin is primarily sourced from animal skins nowadays.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7092 on: December 23, 2024, 07:21:29 PM »

As noted, there has long been a big machlokes, though there were some big poskim who held that certain types of gelatin were kosher, even if made from treif animals
one glaring inaccuracy.... Gelatin is primarily sourced from animal skins nowadays.
And iirc it may not qualify for any of the heterim

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7093 on: December 23, 2024, 08:33:39 PM »
one glaring inaccuracy.... Gelatin is primarily sourced from animal skins nowadays.
Thus the qualification about certain types of gelatin. Presumably anyone giving a hechsher to gelatin nowadays would either need some sort of supply chain to fall in line with one of the meikil positions or some reason why they can extend the reasoning to animal skins (which seems very difficult).

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7094 on: December 23, 2024, 10:20:52 PM »
Ghirardelli chocolates with כK dairy -  are they חלב ישראל?


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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7095 on: December 23, 2024, 10:29:50 PM »
Ghirardelli chocolates with כK dairy -  are they חלב ישראל?


rule of thumb.... If a hashgacha certifies CY and non CY, it's not cy unless it says so explicitly. This is specific to CY and not py

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7096 on: December 23, 2024, 10:31:52 PM »
Ghirardelli chocolates with כK dairy -  are they חלב ישראל?


Google AI (take with a grain of salt)
Products that meet the Cholov Yisroel standard will be clearly labeled as such on the KOF-K certification
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7097 on: December 23, 2024, 10:52:25 PM »
rule of thumb.... If a hashgacha certifies CY and non CY, it's not cy unless it says so explicitly. This is specific to CY and not py
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7098 on: December 24, 2024, 05:03:47 AM »
Google AI (take with a grain of salt)
Products that meet the Cholov Yisroel standard will be clearly labeled as such on the KOF-K certification
though it may be made with milk powder which some including the rabbanut are meikil on

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7099 on: December 29, 2024, 04:36:51 PM »
Hilarious 😂😆
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