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Links to kosher symbol lists. Each list is obviously only as reliable as its source


cRc: http://www.crcweb.org/agency_list.php

KosherQuest: https://kosherquest.org/kosher-symbols/

Approved alcoholic drinks from the Rabbanut.  http://www.jerusalemkoshernews.com/wp-content/uploads/%D7%9E%D7%A9%D7%A7%D7%90%D7%95%D7%AA-%D7%97%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%99%D7%9D-%D7%9E%D7%90%D7%95%D7%A9%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%9D.pdf

These are NOT Orthodox: https://sites.google.com/site/nonorthodoxkosher/home (even though some may look legit)


Informative post regarding Kashrus Agencies
Every hashgacha has +&-.


You can also submit any kashrus questions at
https://www.askcrc.org/ask
https://oukosher.org/ask-kosher-question/
https://www.star-k.org/ask-rabbi choose General Consumer Kashrus Questions in the Subject/Topic Dropdown list
https://www.ok.org/contact/ choose Kosher in the Attention Dropdown list


« Last edited by Alexsei on February 10, 2025, 01:09:33 PM »

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7120 on: January 05, 2025, 08:26:13 PM »
Iirc this is discussed in poskim, a kli that can no longer hold nuts let's say because it has big holes but it can now hold bigger fruit
…and? For tumah it’s not called breaking? Or it is and therefore you are fixing it when you make it reusable again? Please explain

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7121 on: January 05, 2025, 11:09:36 PM »
Probably. Just because you can learn from google doesn’t mean it’s not skill. Most car trouble can be done that way- so is it ok on chol hamoed
Yes most car repairs probably do not require umnus. It's usually knowledge, not skill. Tailoring is something that requires skill, even if you know how to do it, it takes a lot of practice to do a good job.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7123 on: January 05, 2025, 11:25:53 PM »
Yes most car repairs probably do not require umnus. It's usually knowledge, not skill. Tailoring is something that requires skill, even if you know how to do it, it takes a lot of practice to do a good job.
You realize you’re just narrowed down the ability to be Mekayem Gemara Kiddushin 29. it’s doubtful that because of the internet now Only something that needs surgical precision would be included in this.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7125 on: January 06, 2025, 12:05:13 AM »
You realize you’re just narrowed down the ability to be Mekayem Gemara Kiddushin 29. it’s doubtful that because of the internet now Only something that needs surgical precision would be included in this.
My guess is that in those days, everyone did everything that didn't need skill by themselves. Only a having a real skill would ensure a reliable honest living. Nowadays there are many more opportunities. (Unlikely that the chazal meant to limit you to something that would be assur on chol hamoed)

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7126 on: January 06, 2025, 12:11:37 AM »
Right, but if one is willing to rely on RSM that they are all ok as is, it would seem that this is the best one to get, no?
I guess if you are going that route it can't hurt.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7127 on: January 06, 2025, 12:13:44 AM »
I assume that if you have a hot water urn which can still function to hold water if you remove the heating element and replace it you would not have to toivel , Please correct me if I’m wrong
You would still need to toivel it as the heating element doesn't affect its kli status being that it's perfectly capable of holding water.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7128 on: January 06, 2025, 12:35:13 AM »
You would still need to toivel it as the heating element doesn't affect its kli status being that it's perfectly capable of holding water.
Rav Falk writes that if the electrical capabilities were compromised it would be considered a broken vessel regardless if it could still hold cold water in it.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7129 on: January 06, 2025, 12:50:06 AM »
Where?
שו״ת מחזה אליהו ח״א צ״ז he is writing in a opposite case of a non Jew repairing the electrical system if it would necessitate tevila

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7130 on: January 06, 2025, 12:54:18 AM »
שו״ת מחזה אליהו ח״א צ״ז he is writing in a opposite case of a non Jew repairing the electrical system if it would necessitate tevila
I stand corrected in regards to that specific, as in that case Rav Falk has a chiddush which he based on a tosefta.
It does not apply to the seasoned pot, and even in his case he says it doesn’t work the other way around to exempt from tevilla if the yid breaks and fixes it.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7131 on: January 06, 2025, 01:07:41 AM »
It does not apply to the seasoned pot
I was solely commenting on the accuracy of something he quoted along the way.
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7132 on: January 06, 2025, 01:11:14 AM »
שו״ת מחזה אליהו ח״א צ״ז he is writing in a opposite case of a non Jew repairing the electrical system if it would necessitate tevila
He holds that you make a Bracha?
At least in the opposite case, it should create a safek that you should not make a Bracha
I don’t have a copy of the Sefer but the reasoning should exist as long as you are willing to accept that the pot is nonfunctional because it will rust therefore it was nigmar byad uman yisroel
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7133 on: January 06, 2025, 01:17:00 AM »
I stand corrected in regards to that specific, as in that case Rav Falk has a chiddush which he based on a tosefta.
It does not apply to the seasoned pot, and even in his case he says it doesn’t work the other way around to exempt from tevilla if the yid breaks and fixes it.
I not sure but IIRC he doesn’t really believe in the heter of a yid breaking and fixing altogether not only specifically in this case

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7135 on: January 06, 2025, 01:21:38 AM »
He holds that you make a Bracha?
At least in the opposite case, it should create a safek that you should not make a Bracha
I don’t have a copy of the Sefer but the reasoning should exist as long as you are willing to accept that the pot is nonfunctional because it will rust therefore it was nigmar byad uman yisroel
He writes that it shouldn’t be done with a bracha since in order for a utensil that was fixed by a non Jew to require a bracha you need a chasuve addition from the non Jew to the kli and that doesn’t reach that bar.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7136 on: January 06, 2025, 01:26:35 AM »

Yes but read what he writes in the beginning of the paragraph. It is because of that reasoning that he writes that a Jew breaking and then fixing wouldn’t exempt it from tevila and that is a general problem that always applies

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7137 on: January 06, 2025, 08:06:27 AM »
Yes but read what he writes in the beginning of the paragraph. It is because of that reasoning that he writes that a Jew breaking and then fixing wouldn’t exempt it from tevila and that is a general problem that always applies
Only when it’s disassembled and reassembled. Not when it’s truly broken and then repaired. In that case he agrees that breaking and fixing it would exempt it.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7138 on: January 06, 2025, 09:25:07 AM »
Only when it’s disassembled and reassembled. Not when it’s truly broken and then repaired. In that case he agrees that breaking and fixing it would exempt it.
And therefore it is subject to anyone’s interpretation of what it really broken, many people (even reliable websites) are not careful on clarifying on the fact that Brachos should be avoided in safek.
I do remember once seeing a “handbook” that dough hook needs a Bracha… which obviously does not! (sorry not going to debate that)

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7139 on: January 06, 2025, 09:42:28 AM »
Are Target brand “Good & Gather” flavored sparkling water kosher?