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Links to kosher symbol lists. Each list is obviously only as reliable as its source


cRc: http://www.crcweb.org/agency_list.php

KosherQuest: https://kosherquest.org/kosher-symbols/

Approved alcoholic drinks from the Rabbanut.  http://www.jerusalemkoshernews.com/wp-content/uploads/%D7%9E%D7%A9%D7%A7%D7%90%D7%95%D7%AA-%D7%97%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%99%D7%9D-%D7%9E%D7%90%D7%95%D7%A9%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%9D.pdf

These are NOT Orthodox: https://sites.google.com/site/nonorthodoxkosher/home (even though some may look legit)


Informative post regarding Kashrus Agencies
Every hashgacha has +&-.


You can also submit any kashrus questions at
https://www.askcrc.org/ask
https://oukosher.org/ask-kosher-question/
https://www.star-k.org/ask-rabbi choose General Consumer Kashrus Questions in the Subject/Topic Dropdown list
https://www.ok.org/contact/ choose Kosher in the Attention Dropdown list


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Author Topic: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread  (Read 1374331 times)

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7140 on: January 06, 2025, 09:56:19 AM »
I do remember once seeing a “handbook” that dough hook needs a Bracha… which obviously does not! (sorry not going to debate that)
Why would it even need tevilah? Is it ever used for edible food?

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7141 on: January 06, 2025, 10:18:33 AM »
The kli isn't broken by taking off the seasoning. It can be used for many things until it rusts (and rust can be removed presumably).

A rusty pot remains tamei. A needle is tahorsince one can no longer sew with it.
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7142 on: January 06, 2025, 01:02:10 PM »
Anyone know anything about ORC Kosher (Rabbi Traub)? I’ve never seen it before. @moko
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7143 on: January 06, 2025, 03:36:27 PM »
A rusty pot remains tamei. A needle is tahorsince one can no longer sew with it.
The issue is very simple if something can no longer be used for its intended purpose then it is not that kli.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7144 on: January 06, 2025, 06:54:16 PM »
The issue is very simple if something can no longer be used for its intended purpose then it is not that kli.
The issue is very simple: It retains its kli status and therefore the chiyuv tevilla is unaffected.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7145 on: January 06, 2025, 06:56:07 PM »
And therefore it is subject to anyone’s interpretation of what it really broken, many people (even reliable websites) are not careful on clarifying on the fact that Brachos should be avoided in safek.
You need to first reach first base and lose its kli status in regards to tuma. This isn’t subject to anyones interpretation. There are clear halachos about it.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7146 on: January 06, 2025, 09:31:07 PM »
Anyone know anything about ORC Kosher (Rabbi Traub)? I’ve never seen it before. @moko
Does anyone know a square with a Large K and the letters ORC going from top to bottom inside the square (on the right side of the K) is good?

(for some reason I can't upload a pic)

I know that hechsher. I've heard conflicting answers whether its reliable or not. I believe it comes from a Rabbi in San Francisco if I'm not mistaken.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7147 on: January 07, 2025, 12:08:34 AM »
You need to first reach first base and lose its kli status in regards to tuma. This isn’t subject to anyones interpretation. There are clear halachos about it.
And a box that is a tray loses its shem box for tumah that is very clear especially if it was never intended as a box I think we established that already from the tshuva from R Falk

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7148 on: January 07, 2025, 12:23:47 AM »
And a box that is a tray loses its shem box for tumah that is very clear especially if it was never intended as a box I think we established that already from the tshuva from R Falk
I don't know what box or tray you are referring to, nor how you have established anything from Rav Falk beyond something that was intended for hot water and can no longer serve in that capacity.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7149 on: January 07, 2025, 12:26:17 AM »
He holds that you make a Bracha?
At least in the opposite case, it should create a safek that you should not make a Bracha
 but the reasoning should exist as long as you are willing to accept that the pot is nonfunctional because it will rust therefore it was nigmar byad uman yisroel
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7150 on: January 07, 2025, 12:32:06 AM »

I see that you don't have the sefer which may be an aggravating factor. Here you are:
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=21547&st=&pgnum=294

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7151 on: January 07, 2025, 12:35:41 AM »
“Not exactly sure what you are showing me here.”
Sorry to hear that.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7152 on: January 08, 2025, 01:06:34 PM »
A family member came home with these. It does show its OU-D but a common thing people tend to do is flip to the back of the product and read theough the ingredients and look to see if there's any milk ingredients. While this is showing may contain milk, though it doesn't have any milk in the ingredient list.

I advised them to reach out to the OU to confirm before eating it. They were informed by the OU it is indeed dairy.
So 2 points to this post. Why not put the milk as an ingredient vs just may contain if it actually has milk in it? Or at any given point they can change the recipe?
   And lastly to avoid someone else making the same mistake with this product and assuming it's only DE in fact while it's true kosher status is Dairy.







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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7153 on: January 08, 2025, 01:17:10 PM »
So 2 points to this post. Why not put the milk as an ingredient vs just may contain if it actually has milk in it? Or at any given point they can change the recipe?

They can't put milk in the ingredients if milk is not an ingredient. That doesn't mean that one of the other ingredients isn't dairy.

   And lastly to avoid someone else making the same mistake with this product and assuming it's only DE in fact while it's true kosher status is Dairy.

The easiest way for people to avoid making mistakes is for them to stop assuming they'll be able to ascertain kashrus status from ingredients.

(ETA: sorry, didn't mean for this to sound snarky.)
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7154 on: January 08, 2025, 01:23:26 PM »
They can't put milk in the ingredients if milk is not an ingredient. That doesn't mean that one of the other ingredients isn't dairy.

The easiest way for people to avoid making mistakes is for them to stop assuming they'll be able to ascertain kashrus status from ingredients.
True point. Though I'm looking back at the ingredients it does show "cocoa butter" which can possibly be dairy.
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7155 on: January 08, 2025, 02:39:20 PM »
A family member came home with these. It does show its OU-D but a common thing people tend to do is flip to the back of the product and read theough the ingredients and look to see if there's any milk ingredients. While this is showing may contain milk, though it doesn't have any milk in the ingredient list.

I advised them to reach out to the OU to confirm before eating it. They were informed by the OU it is indeed dairy.
So 2 points to this post. Why not put the milk as an ingredient vs just may contain if it actually has milk in it? Or at any given point they can change the recipe?
   And lastly to avoid someone else making the same mistake with this product and assuming it's only DE in fact while it's true kosher status is Dairy.







Even if it says Dairy-Free, it can still be not Cholov Yisroel.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7156 on: January 08, 2025, 02:50:03 PM »
Even if it says Dairy-Free, it can still be not Cholov Yisroel.
How so?
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7157 on: January 08, 2025, 02:55:25 PM »
True point. Though I'm looking back at the ingredients it does show "cocoa butter" which can possibly be dairy.
cocoa butter is most definitely not dairy . In theory, it can be processed (deodorized) on dairy or non kosher equipment but it's not inherently dairy

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7158 on: January 08, 2025, 03:12:14 PM »
A family member came home with these. It does show its OU-D but a common thing people tend to do is flip to the back of the product and read theough the ingredients and look to see if there's any milk ingredients. While this is showing may contain milk, though it doesn't have any milk in the ingredient list.

I advised them to reach out to the OU to confirm before eating it. They were informed by the OU it is indeed dairy.
So 2 points to this post. Why not put the milk as an ingredient vs just may contain if it actually has milk in it? Or at any given point they can change the recipe?
   And lastly to avoid someone else making the same mistake with this product and assuming it's only DE in fact while it's true kosher status is Dairy.








Probably the dark chocolate is dairy according to Halacha but not the FDA
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7159 on: January 08, 2025, 03:13:16 PM »
How so?
I spoke to someone at the ou. They said that even if legally it's considered non-dairy which means there is no lactose, it can still be dairy as per Jewish law.
ETA: it had an OU-D.
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