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Links to kosher symbol lists. Each list is obviously only as reliable as its source


cRc: http://www.crcweb.org/agency_list.php

KosherQuest: https://kosherquest.org/kosher-symbols/

Approved alcoholic drinks from the Rabbanut.  http://www.jerusalemkoshernews.com/wp-content/uploads/%D7%9E%D7%A9%D7%A7%D7%90%D7%95%D7%AA-%D7%97%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%99%D7%9D-%D7%9E%D7%90%D7%95%D7%A9%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%9D.pdf

These are NOT Orthodox: https://sites.google.com/site/nonorthodoxkosher/home (even though some may look legit)


Informative post regarding Kashrus Agencies
Every hashgacha has +&-.


You can also submit any kashrus questions at
https://www.askcrc.org/ask
https://oukosher.org/ask-kosher-question/
https://www.star-k.org/ask-rabbi choose General Consumer Kashrus Questions in the Subject/Topic Dropdown list
https://www.ok.org/contact/ choose Kosher in the Attention Dropdown list


« Last edited by Alexsei on February 10, 2025, 01:09:33 PM »

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7180 on: January 09, 2025, 11:21:30 AM »
To clarify, the Rama allows other drinks but not lechatchila. To allow chocolate is a big chiddush and not universally accepted because it's not a liquid at room temp. The OU will not allow kashering with chocolate.

Yup. That was all discussed.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7181 on: January 09, 2025, 11:28:00 AM »
The point is to show that Rabbi Yonatan Halevy doesn't conform to standard customs/Mesorah and should probably be avoided if one has Kashrus questions.

Mesorah tells us that we should burn the Chometz.
Mesorah also tells us not to give free presents to non-Jews without good reason.

I'm sure he's a fine person. He just does things differently than the mainstream and seems to have his own path.

Without addressing the kashrus positions, on chometz he offers those suggestions for people who cannot burn chometz. At that point, one still has to get rid of it and you can't give it away to Jewish aniyim because it's assur.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7182 on: January 09, 2025, 12:14:10 PM »
Without addressing the kashrus positions, on chometz he offers those suggestions for people who cannot burn chometz. At that point, one still has to get rid of it and you can't give it away to Jewish aniyim because it's assur.
Yes, but he wrote that there is only Mitzvah to get rid of it, not burn it. This implies that there is no Mitzvah of destroying it which is false.
He also wrote that you can give it away to a non-Jew. This is not our Mesorah.

Anyways, i checked up one of his videos on Kashrus. Heres a quick take:
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Does something need a Hechsher to be Kosher?
There is a big problem with people trying to make ourselves better than the people of last year.
There are Talmidei Chachamim who just don’t know Halacha. They don’t know what’s written in the Shulchan Aruch.
We used to have Talmeidi Chachamim who knew stuff, nowadays they say only if it has a symbol its Kosher.
My grandmother baked Matzah on Pesach…
So we are strict on what we eat but don’t care about we speak about. We are speaking lots of Lashon Hara so we need to cut down on being so strict on Kashrus.
Don’t fall into that trap! We should eat something because we know the Halacha and eat whats Kosher because its Kosher, not because of the symbol.

So yeah, he has his own Derech... I don't suggest relying on him for Kashrus advice...

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7183 on: January 09, 2025, 12:39:31 PM »
I cant make head or tails out of his mission statement...
https://shiviti.org/about/
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Shiviti is a religious, educational and social movement promoting a unique brand of transformational, Jewish wisdom through its many branches and divisions.

Shiviti aims to be a movement synonymous with meaningful Judaism, transformational teachings, guiding others to discover the great potential in them, and creating a revolution in spiritual leadership and institutions around the world.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7184 on: January 09, 2025, 12:49:18 PM »
To his credit, he doesn't try to hide anything...
https://shiviti.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/Shiviti-Pesach-Kashrut-Forum-Rules-and-Guidelines.pdf
...
The underlying philosophy of this forum is based on the teachings and
guiding principles of Rabbi Yaakov Peretz shlit"a as received and
understood by Rabbi Yonatan Halevy. While we do not attempt to
represent any other views aside from those of this philosophy and
style, we will do our utmost to take into consideration both Sepharadi
and Ashkenazi opinions where relevant.
...
This forum is only intended for those who consider Rabbi Yonatan
Halevy their rabbi, or that don't have a rabbi to whom they can ask
Halachic questions of. If you adhere to the rulings of another rabbi, or
will use the rulings of this forum to cause strife with your rabbi, you do
not have our blessing.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7185 on: January 09, 2025, 12:52:48 PM »
The point is to show that Rabbi Yonatan Halevy doesn't conform to standard customs/Mesorah and should probably be avoided if one has Kashrus questions.

Mesorah tells us that we should burn the Chometz.
Mesorah also tells us not to give free presents to non-Jews without good reason.

I'm sure he's a fine person. He just does things differently than the mainstream and seems to have his own path.
He literally says for those who cannot burn chamets
Check out @JewishAlternativeMusic2 on Telegram.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7186 on: January 09, 2025, 01:17:17 PM »
Is there a list of Chocolate brands that are לכתחילה שבכתחילה?
DM's welcome
We have been unburdened by what has been.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7187 on: January 09, 2025, 01:39:12 PM »
Is there a list of Chocolate brands that are לכתחילה שבכתחילה?
DM's welcome
Make it yourself. There are always kulos in everything you buy. The OU and Badatz don't allow kashering with chocolate.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7188 on: January 09, 2025, 01:42:49 PM »
The point is to show that Rabbi Yonatan Halevy doesn't conform to standard customs/Mesorah and should probably be avoided if one has Kashrus questions.

Mesorah tells us that we should burn the Chometz.
Mesorah also tells us not to give free presents to non-Jews without good reason.

I'm sure he's a fine person. He just does things differently than the mainstream and seems to have his own path.
The public disparaging is uncalled for and at the very least is lashon harah.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7189 on: January 09, 2025, 01:51:30 PM »
The public disparaging is uncalled for and at the very least is lashon harah.
Based on what he writes on his own sites, I dont think that he would disagree with anything @Moshe Green wrote - including that if he's not your Rav, dont rely on him.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7190 on: January 09, 2025, 02:37:56 PM »
The OU and Badatz don't allow kashering with chocolate.
So how do they kasher the machinery?

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7191 on: January 09, 2025, 02:41:19 PM »
Curious why removing seasoning is not breaking the kli? It’s really unusable in this state as it will rust, maybe no tvilah, probably no Bracha, and maybe you have to wait until after seasoning?
Not familiar with cast iron pans. Will it rust right away to the point that it cannot be used for cooking even once?

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7192 on: January 09, 2025, 02:54:06 PM »
So how do they kasher the machinery?
IIRC I once read that they sometimes kasher with oils that are liquid when room temperature if libun can’t be used

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7193 on: January 09, 2025, 03:23:46 PM »
Is there a list of Chocolate brands that are לכתחילה שבכתחילה?
DM's welcome

Fascinating how they managed to upgrade from kashering with a hot chocolate run to kashering with boiling water.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7194 on: January 09, 2025, 04:11:34 PM »
The public disparaging is uncalled for and at the very least is lashon harah.
I think your publicly disparaging me.

I never said anything bad against him just that he has his own way.
If you read my notes on his Shiur and thought that it was disparaging then you can email him and ask him why he said them. I just quoted him.

That being so, I would appreciate if you would publicly ask me an apology.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7195 on: January 09, 2025, 04:33:10 PM »
How bout you 'publicly' state your real name.
Then we can all 'publicly' apologize.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7196 on: January 09, 2025, 05:24:43 PM »
So how do they kasher the machinery?
This is one of R Kuber's questions on the Badatz and OU... He said they told him they have a way of kashering the conche/machines with water but he doesn't believe it until he see's it.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7197 on: January 09, 2025, 05:43:02 PM »
Yes, but he wrote that there is only Mitzvah to get rid of it, not burn it. This implies that there is no Mitzvah of destroying it which is false.
He also wrote that you can give it away to a non-Jew. This is not our Mesorah.
He’s just quoting theSh”A Is your Mesorah to argue on the Sh”A?

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7198 on: January 09, 2025, 07:11:15 PM »
Not familiar with cast iron pans. Will it rust right away to the point that it cannot be used for cooking even once?
Only if don't dry it thoroughly and completely... To your second question, only if you don't mind a little rust in your food ;)
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7199 on: January 09, 2025, 08:19:27 PM »
Only if don't dry it thoroughly and completely... To your second question, only if you don't mind a little rust in your food ;)
I only asked one question. So if you dry it well enough will it rust at all?