Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread

[menotyou]

So that's my LOR opinion I guess.
Are bamboo shoots any different?

The question is oleh al shulchan melochim (lilafes Bo es hapas) especially because it’s a tafel.
I once looked into French fried onions and the OUs policy is that a tafel is not a problem. The example used was water chestnuts ( iirc R Belsky Ztzl’s Tshuva)

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The question is oleh al shulchan melochim (lilafes Bo es hapas) especially because it’s a tafel.
I once looked into French fried onions and the OUs policy is that a tafel is not a problem. The example used was water chestnuts ( iirc R Belsky Ztzl’s Tshuva)

Yes that is the opinion of R' Belsky Zt''l altough in this case I think he relied on the fact that it doesnt change with cooking (Shach)

[imayid2]

The question is oleh al shulchan melochim (lilafes Bo es hapas) especially because it’s a tafel.
I once looked into French fried onions and the OUs policy is that a tafel is not a problem. The example used was water chestnuts ( iirc R Belsky Ztzl’s Tshuva)

It should be noted that many achronim are quite clear that foods eaten al shulchan melachim as a taful are problematic. Notably, there is a big shmuz in the achronim about sugar with all sorts of reasons being proffered as to why it shouldn’t be an issue, the fact that it’s a taful none withstanding.

It’s unfortunate that the OU ignores this, and consumers reading their articles and policies have no inkling that many achronim are machmir on this.

ועיין עוד בשו״ת מחזה אליהו חלק ב סימן מז.

[Alexsei]

While we're on the BY topic, are there different opinions on Maple Syrup? Or do all agree it's considered tavlin?

[imayid2]

While we're on the BY topic, are there different opinions on Maple Syrup? Or do all agree it's considered tavlin?

It’s not eaten raw?
Also, being a tabling doesn’t necessarily exempt the need for BY.

[Alexsei]

It’s not eaten raw?
Also, being a tabling doesn’t necessarily exempt the need for BY.

Maple in syrup form is always cooked

https://asktherav.com/16026-is-fresh-maple-syrup-gifted-by-a-non-jew-kosher/

ואין כאן משום בישול נכרי כשאינו נאכל בפ״ע ורק בתערובת, ראה מג״א רג, ב. ואפי׳ את״ל שנאכל כשלעצמו, כיון שהוא כתבלין הרי מה״ט גופא אעעש״מ, ראה שו״ת טוטו״ד תנינא רכה. שואל ומשיב ג, רל. בית שלמה קעח.

I want to know if this is unanimously accepted

[imayid2]

https://asktherav.com/16026-is-fresh-maple-syrup-gifted-by-a-non-jew-kosher/

ואין כאן משום בישול נכרי כשאינו נאכל בפ״ע ורק בתערובת, ראה מג״א רג, ב. ואפי׳ את״ל שנאכל כשלעצמו, כיון שהוא כתבלין הרי מה״ט גופא אעעש״מ, ראה שו״ת טוטו״ד תנינא רכה. שואל ומשיב ג, רל. בית שלמה קעח.

I want to know if this is unanimously accepted

No, it’s a machlokes achronim

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Maple in syrup form is always cooked

https://asktherav.com/16026-is-fresh-maple-syrup-gifted-by-a-non-jew-kosher/

ואין כאן משום בישול נכרי כשאינו נאכל בפ״ע ורק בתערובת, ראה מג״א רג, ב. ואפי׳ את״ל שנאכל כשלעצמו, כיון שהוא כתבלין הרי מה״ט גופא אעעש״מ, ראה שו״ת טוטו״ד תנינא רכה. שואל ומשיב ג, רל. בית שלמה קעח.

I want to know if this is unanimously accepted

No most poskim (except these you mention)are of the opinion that there is a issue of BA on tavlinim.

Look in the teshuva from R' Falk that @imayid2 mentioned above

[menotyou]

No most poskim (except these you mention)are of the opinion that there is a issue of BA on tavlinim.

Look in the teshuva from R' Falk that @imayid2 mentioned above

I never knew that by drabanan we count up shitos to be machmir 🙄

[imayid2]

I never knew that by drabanan we count up shitos to be machmir 🙄

It’s not a counting game. It’s necessary to analyze, dissect, and verify the various sources, proofs, and logical arguments. Even for darabanons. You don’t get freebies for rabbinic prohibitions, sorry.

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I never knew that by drabanan we count up shitos to be machmir 🙄

who is tallying up to be machmir? he asked if it is unanimously accepted and I responded that to the contrary its not the generally accepted opinion

[TheAsh]

Maple in syrup form is always cooked

https://asktherav.com/16026-is-fresh-maple-syrup-gifted-by-a-non-jew-kosher/

ואין כאן משום בישול נכרי כשאינו נאכל בפ״ע ורק בתערובת, ראה מג״א רג, ב. ואפי׳ את״ל שנאכל כשלעצמו, כיון שהוא כתבלין הרי מה״ט גופא אעעש״מ, ראה שו״ת טוטו״ד תנינא רכה. שואל ומשיב ג, רל. בית שלמה קעח.

I want to know if this is unanimously accepted

You need a foaming agent in maple syrup, which is why most agencies say it requires a hechsher. The Scroll K does not.
AFAIK, the chance of a nonkosher foaming agent is pretty low, though it may be chalav stam.

[imayid2]

You need a foaming agent in maple syrup, which is why most agencies say it requires a hechsher. The Scroll K does not.
AFAIK, the chance of a nonkosher foaming agent is pretty low, though it may be chalav stam.

Regardless, it is batul.

[TheAsh]

Regardless, it is batul.

Might be a davar haamud, as I think you cannot produce Maple Syrup with out it?

[Alexsei]

You need a foaming agent in maple syrup, which is why most agencies say it requires a hechsher. The Scroll K does not.
AFAIK, the chance of a nonkosher foaming agent is pretty low, though it may be chalav stam.

My concern isn't the foaming agent, as it has a hechsher, my concern is BY, which I doubt any of them are

[imayid2]

Might be a davar haamud, as I think you cannot produce Maple Syrup with out it?

No chance. It’s not maamid it.

[menotyou]

It’s not a counting game. It’s necessary to analyze, dissect, and verify the various sources, proofs, and logical arguments. Even for darabanons. You don’t get freebies for rabbinic prohibitions, sorry.

Wow you really are something! שו״ת טוטו״ד תנינא רכה. שואל ומשיב ג, רל. בית שלמה קעח. In your book are freebies, I guess they never had a chance to learn like you can.

[EliJelly]

Am I suppose to put my Kirkland maple syrup on hold now? @Alexsei keep us posted on your findings.

[imayid2]

Wow you really are something! שו״ת טוטו״ד תנינא רכה. שואל ומשיב ג, רל. בית שלמה קעח. In your book are freebies, I guess they never had a chance to learn like you can.

If only life were so simple and by finding a meikal we were good to go. Presumably any time there is an acharon who is machmir on a deoraisa you are machmir? Sadly, life is a bit more complicated than that.

[Alexsei]

Am I suppose to put my Kirkland maple syrup on hold now? @Alexsei keep us posted on your findings.

Are you ready to pay 2-3x for bakol BY maple syrup?