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Links to kosher symbol lists. Each list is obviously only as reliable as its source


cRc: http://www.crcweb.org/agency_list.php

KosherQuest: https://kosherquest.org/kosher-symbols/

Approved alcoholic drinks from the Rabbanut.  http://www.jerusalemkoshernews.com/wp-content/uploads/%D7%9E%D7%A9%D7%A7%D7%90%D7%95%D7%AA-%D7%97%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%99%D7%9D-%D7%9E%D7%90%D7%95%D7%A9%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%9D.pdf

These are NOT Orthodox: https://sites.google.com/site/nonorthodoxkosher/home (even though some may look legit)


Informative post regarding Kashrus Agencies
Every hashgacha has +&-.


You can also submit any kashrus questions at
https://www.askcrc.org/ask
https://oukosher.org/ask-kosher-question/
https://www.star-k.org/ask-rabbi choose General Consumer Kashrus Questions in the Subject/Topic Dropdown list
https://www.ok.org/contact/ choose Kosher in the Attention Dropdown list


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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7420 on: February 09, 2025, 10:53:47 PM »
I vote to just change the domain to danshalachaforums.com

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7421 on: February 10, 2025, 12:15:22 AM »
I vote to just change the domain to danshalachaforums.com
But then where would the AI text walls and random tweets go?

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7422 on: February 10, 2025, 12:24:30 AM »
I vote to just change the domain to danshalachaforums.com

And leave forums.dansdeals.com for more casual things like politics?  :)

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7423 on: February 10, 2025, 10:33:06 AM »
I vote to just change the domain to danshalachaforums.com
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7424 on: February 10, 2025, 01:17:29 PM »
I vote to just change the domain to danshalachaforums.com
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Is it muttar to vote to just change the domain to danshalachaforums.com?

ChatGPT said:
It sounds like you're asking if it's appropriate (or advisable) to vote for changing the domain name to something like "danshalachaforums.com." The decision would depend on several factors:

Relevance to the Content/Community: Does the domain accurately reflect the community or subject matter? If "danshalachaforums.com" aligns with the goals or identity of the forum, it could make sense to vote for the change.

Brand Recognition: If the forum already has a strong brand identity, changing the domain might affect recognition, SEO rankings, or how users find the forum. Consider the impact of rebranding.

User Preferences: If the forum has an existing user base, it’s important to gauge how they feel about the change. A vote might make sense if you want to ensure that the community feels involved in the decision.

Practical Considerations: Are there any technical or logistical issues with making the change (e.g., redirects, domain renewal costs, etc.)?

Ultimately, it’s a matter of how much the domain change will benefit or harm the forum in the long run. If it helps align with the forum's mission or brings new users while keeping existing ones happy, it could be a good move! Does that help clarify things for you?

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7425 on: February 10, 2025, 01:19:59 PM »
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7426 on: February 10, 2025, 06:48:48 PM »
CHATGPT

Is it muttar to vote to just change the domain to danshalachaforums.com?

ChatGPT said:
It sounds like you're asking if it's appropriate (or advisable) to vote for changing the domain name to something like "danshalachaforums.com." The decision would depend on several factors:

Relevance to the Content/Community: Does the domain accurately reflect the community or subject matter? If "danshalachaforums.com" aligns with the goals or identity of the forum, it could make sense to vote for the change.

Brand Recognition: If the forum already has a strong brand identity, changing the domain might affect recognition, SEO rankings, or how users find the forum. Consider the impact of rebranding.

User Preferences: If the forum has an existing user base, it’s important to gauge how they feel about the change. A vote might make sense if you want to ensure that the community feels involved in the decision.

Practical Considerations: Are there any technical or logistical issues with making the change (e.g., redirects, domain renewal costs, etc.)?

Ultimately, it’s a matter of how much the domain change will benefit or harm the forum in the long run. If it helps align with the forum's mission or brings new users while keeping existing ones happy, it could be a good move! Does that help clarify things for you?

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7427 on: February 10, 2025, 08:42:15 PM »

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7428 on: February 10, 2025, 08:49:49 PM »
sounds like it's getting messy
Have there been new developments?

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7429 on: February 10, 2025, 09:52:34 PM »

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7430 on: February 10, 2025, 09:55:18 PM »
It's the same clown that certified meat point when Dallas Kosher terminated hashgacha due to kashrus violations

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7431 on: February 10, 2025, 10:20:50 PM »

I'm not knowledgeable in who this Beis Yosef Hashgacha is, but this letter has several red flags. A. He did not get hundreds of thousands of messages of support. Stop trying to frame the story like a dispute over money and kavod and people are supporting the underdog. B. He is conflating a halachic Shita with a Hashgacha that have nothing to do with each other. C. The way he's framing it as an upgrade is laughable. D. He's trying to use CRC and AKO links about the Halachic Shita to grant legitimacy to the Hashgacha of the same name when that Hashgacha is not recommended by either. That's a very sly move.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7432 on: February 11, 2025, 10:45:00 AM »
I'm not knowledgeable in who this Beis Yosef Hashgacha is, but this letter has several red flags. A. He did not get hundreds of thousands of messages of support. Stop trying to frame the story like a dispute over money and kavod and people are supporting the underdog. B. He is conflating a halachic Shita with a Hashgacha that have nothing to do with each other. C. The way he's framing it as an upgrade is laughable. D. He's trying to use CRC and AKO links about the Halachic Shita to grant legitimacy to the Hashgacha of the same name when that Hashgacha is not recommended by either. That's a very sly move.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7433 on: February 11, 2025, 11:01:54 AM »
@Moshe Green per the forum rules, please refrain from posting AI-generated content, other than in threads dedicated to that.
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7434 on: February 11, 2025, 08:00:17 PM »

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7435 on: February 11, 2025, 10:03:42 PM »


TFS

Is this instead of Kashrut Beit Yosef? Or instead?

Anyone have more info on this Rov?

Agav, I once had a conversation with Rabbi Dubin of the HKA regarding setting up a kashrus sytem for a local vaad, and he explained the main parts of his system in detail.

One thing he adamant about was that the system of checking off ingredients as they came in was basically the backbone of the supervision. If an ingredient was not properly tracked, that itself was a violation, regardless of if the ingredient had a hechsher, and even if that hechsher was on the list approved for that establishment.

In short, you must insist on the agreed upon system, and if there are violations you must be prepared to walk away, because if the ingredient "tracking" system fails or is not respected, there isn't any way to really know what's going on, and you won't catch any actual issues.


From the info posted here, sounds like something like that happened here, a case of fish got into the kitchen without the proper control system. And it sounds like in HKA's view that's game over. (Maybe with a warning or two).

Posting in case anyone finds it interesting.

(My own reading would be that even if there were no actual kashrus violations, if an owner foesnt respect the hechser, amd isn't afraid of them, there's not way to certify that establishment. But I recognize i have zero facts beyond the sparse details posted here)

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7436 on: February 12, 2025, 09:37:04 AM »
Did they not have a mezuzah until now? They took the old one down?

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1Go867cBrT/

EDIT: They seem to have been checking it (and then making a new bracha??) https://www.facebook.com/share/r/18VhfBjeWK/

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7437 on: February 12, 2025, 11:16:17 AM »
Genesis owner is done fighting. Restaurant is on the market, if anyone is interested.
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7438 on: February 12, 2025, 11:17:14 AM »
Genesis owner is done fighting. Restaurant is on the market, if anyone is interested.
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #7439 on: February 12, 2025, 11:28:09 AM »
TFS

Is this instead of Kashrut Beit Yosef? Or instead?

Anyone have more info on this Rov?

Agav, I once had a conversation with Rabbi Dubin of the HKA regarding setting up a kashrus sytem for a local vaad, and he explained the main parts of his system in detail.

One thing he adamant about was that the system of checking off ingredients as they came in was basically the backbone of the supervision. If an ingredient was not properly tracked, that itself was a violation, regardless of if the ingredient had a hechsher, and even if that hechsher was on the list approved for that establishment.

In short, you must insist on the agreed upon system, and if there are violations you must be prepared to walk away, because if the ingredient "tracking" system fails or is not respected, there isn't any way to really know what's going on, and you won't catch any actual issues.


From the info posted here, sounds like something like that happened here, a case of fish got into the kitchen without the proper control system. And it sounds like in HKA's view that's game over. (Maybe with a warning or two).

Posting in case anyone finds it interesting.

(My own reading would be that even if there were no actual kashrus violations, if an owner foesnt respect the hechser, amd isn't afraid of them, there's not way to certify that establishment. But I recognize i have zero facts beyond the sparse details posted here)

I would be surprised if there isn't more that was going on behind the scenes. The restaurant owner claimed that there was video of the fish being checked by the mashgiach and an invoice for the fish.