Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread

[chessman1]

This rabbanut document is insane.

Relevant parts translated by Claude:

There is a plant in the United States, Nebraska, which brings meat into the country as chalak Beit Yosef and by the Beit Yosef Badatz, through the importer G.P.S. and company N. There has never been supervision there, and even the shochtim and the entire team of inspectors have never passed the certification examinations of the Chief Rabbinate, but were all approved by one rabbi who traveled for a day or two, "examined" and "approved," and since then, everything has been operating without supervision, and no one speaks up or protests (except for two regular team leaders who serve there in rotation).

On Thursday, the team traveled to the Staburg plant from the Staubryan plant to slaughter veal calves. The team leader did not arrive at all for the slaughter on Thursday. This is an unprecedented matter in its severity, especially since it involves mehadrin slaughter of the Beit Yosef Badatz. This happened many times.

At the Serovi plant in Uruguay in the month of Av 5784 (2024), a French team worked for three weeks for the Beit Yosef Badatz. For two weeks, four shochtim worked according to the Badatz protocol, while in the third week, only three shochtim worked with the same amount of slaughter.

In the summer of 5784, fillet meat arrived under Beit Yosef kashrus that was not properly deveined according to several menakarim. Nothing was done to remove the meat from the Israeli market, except for several cities that removed it with the intervention of Rabbi Eliezer Simcha Weiss.

People do not realize just how bad Bet Yosef is!

Hebrew source:
https://tora-forum.co.il/attachments/%D7%93%D7%95%D7%97-%D7%A2%D7%9C-%D7%9B%D7%A9%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%AA-%D7%A9%D7%97%D7%99%D7%98%D7%AA-%D7%91%D7%A9%D7%A8-%D7%97%D7%95%D7%9C-1-pdf.136775/

These are very serious accusations. Is the plant in question under any US hashgocha?

[yfr bachur]

These are very serious accusations. Is the plant in question under any US hashgocha?

Beat me to this point.
There are likely scores or hundreds of shochtim across the us that the frumest hashgachos are using that never passed an israeli rabbanut exam.

[aygart]

This rabbanut document is insane.

What indicates that this is their document?

[yelped]

https://m.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/article-846808

Cancel culture

Reminds me of "The Longest Pesach".

[TheAsh]

What indicates that this is their document?

This is what is claimed here.
https://tora-forum.co.il/threads/%D7%91%D7%93-%D7%A5-%D7%91%D7%99%D7%AA-%D7%99%D7%95%D7%A1%D7%A3-%D7%90%D7%A9%D7%9B%D7%95%D7%9C-%D7%9C%D7%9E%D7%A4%D7%A2%D7%9C%D7%99%D7%9D-%D7%95%D7%91%D7%AA%D7%99-%D7%A2%D7%A1%D7%A7-%D7%91%D7%9C%D7%91%D7%93-%D7%9C%D7%90-%D7%A2%D7%9C-%D7%94%D7%A9%D7%97%D7%99%D7%98%D7%94.38674/page-12
It seems their style based on what I've read.

[BESED]

Feastables chocolate is becoming OU kosher certified

[herb]

Feastables chocolate is becoming OU kosher certified

https://x.com/OUKosher/status/1892000780602810582

Although I've yet to see a kosher symbol in stores as of yet

[BESED]

Although I've yet to see a kosher symbol in stores as of yet

[TheAsh]

What indicates that this is their document?

Here's one with a letterhead.

[herb]

well I guess 1st day of spring was yesterday so....

[shlomoandtam]

Is this R fishbanes hechsher or is this the other crc?

[frenchfries]

Is this R fishbanes hechsher or is this the other crc?

Rabbi Fishbane.

[Chilla]

I doubt the other one prints their guide in English.

[imayid2]

A family member came home with these. It does show its OU-D but a common thing people tend to do is flip to the back of the product and read theough the ingredients and look to see if there's any milk ingredients. While this is showing may contain milk, though it doesn't have any milk in the ingredient list.

I advised them to reach out to the OU to confirm before eating it. They were informed by the OU it is indeed dairy.
So 2 points to this post. Why not put the milk as an ingredient vs just may contain if it actually has milk in it? Or at any given point they can change the recipe?
   And lastly to avoid someone else making the same mistake with this product and assuming it's only DE in fact while it's true kosher status is Dairy.

I heard from reliable sources that the OU has now officially confirmed these are DE

[Chuchum Ainer]

I heard from reliable sources that the OU has now officially confirmed these are DE

If they officially confirmed it, please post that confirmation. "I heard from reliable sources" is not official confirmation.

[imayid2]

If they officially confirmed it, please post that confirmation. "I heard from reliable sources" is not official confirmation.

Not sure what wasn’t clear in my post.

I don’t have “that confirmation”. Feel free to reach out to them.

[avromie7]

I heard from reliable sources that the OU has now officially confirmed these are DE

This product is almost certainly non dairy according to halacha.
I'll confirm shortly.
Regarding the response, I have my theory....

@moko I don't think you ever posted a follow up.

[herb]

I heard from reliable sources that the OU has now officially confirmed these are DE

if it's plant-based, it's probably no different than the Reese's cups

[monoso]

If they officially confirmed it, please post that confirmation. "I heard from reliable sources" is not official confirmation.

I don't remember if I heard from the Star k or the  CRC  that you can read the ingredients to determine if it is DE. For whatever reason that OU does not want to write that, possibly because of a few exceptions like probiotics, etc. Read upthread, it was discussed several times

[moko]

@moko I don't think you ever posted a follow up.

it's de