Author Topic: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread (Read 967962 times)

Emkay · « **Reply #760 on:** July 20, 2015, 11:19:59 AM »

Quote from: skyguy918 on July 20, 2015, 10:55:47 AM

I have no idea which one of you is right, but just know that you're being annoying. If you have something to say, say it. I'm not sure you realize how ridiculous it is to essentially post in a discussion forum, "you're wrong and I know it", without any further details. I welcome your constructive input to the discussion.

As we both agreed earlier, an online forum isn't the proper place for a halacha discussion. I'm not sure what more input I can contribute other then saying that its fine. Speaking to your kashrus agency will settle it for you. I was just getting perturbed over the misinformation spread simply because he based his opinion on his own reading of an article and then played it off as a fact. I have nothing more to say.

Emkay · « **Reply #761 on:** July 20, 2015, 11:21:06 AM »

Quote from: moko on July 20, 2015, 10:38:15 AM

?

My sources are the heads of the certifying agencies

skyguy918 · « **Reply #762 on:** July 20, 2015, 11:26:43 AM »

Quote from: Emkay on July 20, 2015, 11:19:59 AM

As we both agreed earlier, an online forum isn't the proper place for a halacha discussion. I'm not sure what more input I can contribute other then saying that its fine. Speaking to your kashrus agency will settle it for you. I was just getting perturbed over the misinformation spread simply because he based his opinion on his own reading of an article and then played it off as a fact. I have nothing more to say.

So your plan is to counteract misinformation with as little information in response as possible?

Emkay · « **Reply #763 on:** July 20, 2015, 11:30:08 AM »

Quote from: skyguy918 on July 20, 2015, 11:26:43 AM

So your plan is to counteract misinformation with as little information in response as possible?

I will gladly tell you whatever I know and can properly explain. Tell me what info you are missing. There isn't much to it.

Jm1248 · « **Reply #764 on:** July 20, 2015, 11:44:51 AM »

Quote from: Emkay on July 20, 2015, 11:30:08 AM

I will gladly tell you whatever I know and can properly explain. Tell me what info you are missing. There isn't much to it.

I was just wondering where you heard it from that you are so positive it's good. The heads of OU?

Emkay · « **Reply #765 on:** July 20, 2015, 11:45:15 AM »

Quote from: Jm1248 on July 20, 2015, 11:44:51 AM

I was just wondering where you heard it from that you are so positive it's good. The heads of OU?

Yes,and more

Jm1248 · « **Reply #766 on:** July 20, 2015, 11:46:08 AM »

Quote from: Emkay on July 20, 2015, 11:45:15 AM

Yes,and more

Ok thanx

Something Fishy · « **Reply #767 on:** July 20, 2015, 12:29:14 PM »

FWIW:

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Dear Something Fishy,

Thank you for contacting the OU.

The Orthodox Union certifies a wide range of products manufactured by the Coca Cola Company in the United States of America, Canada and the State of Israel.

The Orthodox Union has no information on products of the Coca Cola Company manufactured in other locations.

Bottles and canned products of the Coca Cola Company in the U.S.A. bear the OU logo. In the rare event that a purchased bottle or can of any products of the Coca Cola Company does not have the OU symbol on the cap or the label or for information on a specific fountain product, please contact the Orthodox Union consumer hotline at 212-613-8241.

Please do not hesitate to contact us again should you have any further questions.

Sincerely,

The Web(be) Rebbe
Orthodox Union Kashruth Division

@Yehuda · « **Reply #768 on:** July 20, 2015, 12:32:35 PM »

Woa, deja vu.

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Dear @Yehuda,

Thank you for contacting the OU.

The Orthodox Union certifies a wide range of products manufactured by the Coca Cola Company in the United States of America, Canada and the State of Israel.

The Orthodox Union has no information on products of the Coca Cola Company manufactured in other locations.

Bottles and canned products of the Coca Cola Company in the U.S.A. bear the OU logo. In the rare event that a purchased bottle or can of any products of the Coca Cola Company does not have the OU symbol on the cap or the label or for information on a specific fountain product, please contact the Orthodox Union consumer hotline at 212-613-8241.

Please do not hesitate to contact us again should you have any further questions.

Sincerely,

The Web(be) Rebbe
Orthodox Union Kashruth Division

Something Fishy · « **Reply #769 on:** July 20, 2015, 12:36:20 PM »

Quote from: @Yehuda on July 20, 2015, 12:32:35 PM

Woa, deja vu.

Look, a canned response!

<I'll just see myself out now, thanks

>

Emkay · « **Reply #770 on:** July 20, 2015, 12:37:46 PM »

Quote from: Something Fishy on July 20, 2015, 12:29:14 PM

FWIW:

I got the same. If you know anyone that's high up there ask them in person

skyguy918 · « **Reply #771 on:** July 20, 2015, 12:58:18 PM »

Quote from: Emkay on July 20, 2015, 12:37:46 PM

I got the same. If you know anyone that's high up there ask them in person

I do and I just did. He said in the US it's fine without a hechsher. Outside the US they don't recommend it.

ETA: I would add that he tends to answer cautiously, but when he's sure something is mutar, even if it's not a publicly held stance of OU Kosher, he will tell me it's fine.

Emkay · « **Reply #772 on:** July 20, 2015, 01:02:20 PM »

Quote from: skyguy918 on July 20, 2015, 12:58:18 PM

I do and I just did. He said in the US it's fine without a hechsher. Outside the US they don't recommend it.

ETA: I would add that he tends to answer cautiously, but when he's sure something is mutar, even if it's not a publicly held stance of OU Kosher, he will tell me it's fine.

Would you be comfortable sharing in PM who that is?

moko · « **Reply #773 on:** July 20, 2015, 01:02:56 PM »

Quote from: Emkay on July 20, 2015, 11:21:06 AM

My sources are the heads of the certifying agencies

as are mine (whom i happen to work for) just happens to be that generally the heads of the certifying agencies have employees who are far more knowledgeable than they are themself.

Emkay · « **Reply #774 on:** July 20, 2015, 01:06:05 PM »

Quote from: moko on July 20, 2015, 01:02:56 PM

as are mine (whom i happen to work for) just happens to be that generally the heads of the certifying agencies have employees who are far more knowledgeable than they are themself. (they often choise not listen to those employees)

And? You work for the OU?

moko · « **Reply #775 on:** July 20, 2015, 01:17:04 PM »

Quote from: Emkay on July 20, 2015, 01:06:05 PM

And? You work for the OU?

some.

skyguy918 · « **Reply #776 on:** July 20, 2015, 01:23:51 PM »

Quote from: Emkay on July 20, 2015, 01:02:20 PM

Would you be comfortable sharing in PM who that is?

Not sure what we'd gain by that - you PM me your name , I PM you mine, and nothing has actually changed in the conversation other than to establish that different Rabonim at OU will give you different answers on an issue that the OU itself intentionally doesn't have an official position on. What I'll say is that he is one of the Rabbinic Coordinators at headquarters (there are about 50 of them), not a 'head' as you put it. But as moko points out, the 'heads' often know less about the specifics than those reporting to them.

Sam Finkelstein · « **Reply #777 on:** July 20, 2015, 02:58:51 PM »

Please allow me to explain that a Hechsher is not a logo. It's a certification that a product is kosher. Just because Coke may not necessarily have an OU logo on it, that doesn't mean it doesn't have a Hechsher. In fact, the production was fully supervised by the OU and the beverage indeed has a Hechsher, which just happens to not be listed on the label. This can only be said about Coke from the US, all of which are certified by the OU. It cannot be said of Coke in other countries, where only certain facilities are supervised.

That said, Coke needs a Hechsher. It's not like plain coffee or tea which don't need one. Coke does contain many sensitive ingredients, whereas coffee and tea contain just coffee or tea.

I really hope I was clear this time around.

wonderlust · « **Reply #778 on:** July 20, 2015, 11:59:07 PM »

Quote from: Emkay on July 20, 2015, 12:37:46 PM

I got the same. If you know anyone that's high up there ask them in person

I did some Hashgacha work for the Ou back in the day & there is someone there that is high up that I always text with my shaylios. Normally I recieve a response within minutes. Interstegly enough, he hasn't responded to my inquiry today. I'm wondering if I'm not the only one on the forum to reach out to him today... He is from bkln..

noturbizniss · « **Reply #779 on:** August 10, 2015, 04:32:27 PM »

Does salt need a hashgacha? Specifically, curing salt which has pink food coloring added? (e.g. http://www.amazon.com/Hoosier-Hill-Farm-Prague-Powder/dp/B008X6KE0E/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1439238455&sr=8-1&keywords=Prague+Powder+No.+1%2C)
If so, anyone know where to get kosher curing salt?

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