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Links to kosher symbol lists. Each list is obviously only as reliable as its source

cRc: http://www.crcweb.org/agency_list.php

KosherQuest: https://kosherquest.org/kosher-symbols/

Approved alcoholic drinks from the Rabbanut.  http://www.jerusalemkoshernews.com/wp-content/uploads/%D7%9E%D7%A9%D7%A7%D7%90%D7%95%D7%AA-%D7%97%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%99%D7%9D-%D7%9E%D7%90%D7%95%D7%A9%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%9D.pdf

These are NOT Orthodox: https://sites.google.com/site/nonorthodoxkosher/home (even though some may look legit)


Informative post regarding Kashrus Agencies
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You can also submit any kashrus questions at
https://www.askcrc.org/ask
https://oukosher.org/ask-kosher-question/
https://www.star-k.org/ask-rabbi choose General Consumer Kashrus Questions in the Subject/Topic Dropdown list
https://www.ok.org/contact/ choose Kosher in the Attention Dropdown list



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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1040 on: January 18, 2017, 02:29:33 PM »
Interesting you ask that. Actually according to everyone, one must wait 6 hours after consuming hard cheese. For example pizza falls under that category, but not milk or yoghurts.  That's their standards.
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1041 on: January 18, 2017, 02:35:40 PM »
FTFY

I think the point is that they consider even cheeses like mozzarella, which are harder than cottage cheese but not normally considered a hard cheese for the purpose of waiting 6 hours, as fully hard cheeses
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1042 on: January 18, 2017, 02:37:54 PM »
I think the point is that they consider even cheeses like mozzarella, which are harder than cottage cheese but not normally considered a hard cheese for the purpose of waiting 6 hours, as fully hard cheeses
that seems to be a bit of a chidush, as those arent aged cheeses, but im not gonna pretend to know the cheese industry

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1043 on: January 18, 2017, 02:53:35 PM »
that seems to be a bit of a chidush, as those arent aged cheeses, but im not gonna pretend to know the cheese industry

It is definitely a chidush, but that's what he was saying - that they consider pizza to fall under that category. I have heard that in EY some hechsherim have the same approach.
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1044 on: January 18, 2017, 02:58:22 PM »
I think the point is that they consider even cheeses like mozzarella, which are harder than cottage cheese but not normally considered a hard cheese for the purpose of waiting 6 hours, as fully hard cheeses
Yes this is correct. I am saying that mozzarella is included in the 6 hour Halachah according to Kedassia.
that seems to be a bit of a chidush, as those arent aged cheeses, but im not gonna pretend to know the cheese industry
Funny as I heard from a cheese maker that owns a large cheese company baring the Kedassia logo say, based on his experience, there isn't a basis to what Kedassia says that mozzarella cheese and the like would fall under the 'hard cheese' category that would take longer to digest.
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1045 on: January 18, 2017, 03:16:14 PM »
It is definitely a chidush, but that's what he was saying - that they consider pizza to fall under that category. I have heard that in EY some hechsherim have the same approach.
Just went through this on a Kashrus WhatsApp group several weeks ago.

Apparently Rabbi Hendel A"H from Montreal also held that way. So the older folks of the Lubavitch community in Montreal, as well as his family/descendants adhere to that ruling. IINM rav Landau of Bnei Brak rules similarly. However from what I understand most poskim don't hold that way.

See https://oukosher.org/blog/consumer-kosher/aged-cheese-list/
And https://oukosher.org/blog/consumer-kosher/are-all-fromages-created-equal-waiting-between-cheese-and-meat/
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1046 on: January 18, 2017, 04:10:06 PM »
The discussion of time one needs to wait after eating cheese has nothing to do with "Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim"

It belongs here "All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions" or I'm missing a way that a Hechsher can impose it on consumers.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1047 on: January 18, 2017, 04:24:06 PM »
The discussion of time one needs to wait after eating cheese has nothing to do with "Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim"

It belongs here "All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions" or I'm missing a way that a Hechsher can impose it on consumers.
This fits with "Kosher" and "Kashrus".

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1048 on: January 18, 2017, 04:59:06 PM »
The discussion of time one needs to wait after eating cheese has nothing to do with "Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim"

It belongs here "All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions" or I'm missing a way that a Hechsher can impose it on consumers.

Oh no, a thread went a tiny bit off topic! :o
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1049 on: January 22, 2017, 06:29:02 PM »
Is canned hearts of palm cooked?

If Yes Does it require Bishul Yisroel?

And is OU in general makpid on bishul YISROEL?
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1050 on: January 22, 2017, 06:32:30 PM »
Bishul is not like pas and I a product requires bishul Yisrael it's not kosher without it.
Hearts of palm are edible raw (in the country's that they grow in) and don't require bishul Yisroel

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1051 on: January 22, 2017, 06:34:32 PM »
Bishul is not like pas and I a product requires bishul Yisrael it's not kosher without it.
Hearts of palm are edible raw (in the country's that they grow in) and don't require bishul Yisroel
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1052 on: January 22, 2017, 07:06:05 PM »
No. For food to require bishul it must be both 1) not edible raw 2) fit in king's table

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1053 on: January 22, 2017, 07:19:21 PM »
Just went through this on a Kashrus WhatsApp group several weeks ago.

Apparently Rabbi Hendel A"H from Montreal also held that way. So the older folks of the Lubavitch community in Montreal, as well as his family/descendants adhere to that ruling. IINM rav Landau of Bnei Brak rules similarly. However from what I understand most poskim don't hold that way.

See https://oukosher.org/blog/consumer-kosher/aged-cheese-list/
And https://oukosher.org/blog/consumer-kosher/are-all-fromages-created-equal-waiting-between-cheese-and-meat/
This was the opinion RYSE as well. 

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1054 on: January 22, 2017, 07:34:05 PM »
Is canned hearts of palm cooked?

If Yes Does it require Bishul Yisroel?

And is OU in general makpid on bishul YISROEL?
As far as I know the OU is makpid on bishul Yisrael where they believe it's needed. For instance, the OU doesn't have a good turning in fires for breakfast cereal because they hold its not required ( not sure why anyone would hold that corn based cereal is a bishul akum problem) as far as hearts of palm go, the OU believes that it is nechal chai since in the lands where they grow they are eaten raw and doesn't have a problem of hakol lefi hazman vhamakom since wherever they do grow they're eaten raw.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1055 on: January 22, 2017, 07:38:22 PM »
As far as I know the OU is makpid on bishul Yisrael where they believe it's needed. For instance, the OU doesn't have a good turning in fires for breakfast cereal because they hold its not required ( not sure why anyone would hold that corn based cereal is a bishul akum problem) as far as hearts of palm go, the OU believes that it is nechal chai since in the lands where they grow they are eaten raw and doesn't have a problem of hakol lefi hazman vhamakom since wherever they do grow they're eaten raw.
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1056 on: January 22, 2017, 07:43:29 PM »
The OU as a general rule is not makpid on bishul Yisrael for canned fish based in a tziruf of several heterim. (Steam, and special industrial equipment amoung those heterim)

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1057 on: January 24, 2017, 05:45:46 AM »
Ocean spray cranberry juice cocktail had a triangle K, does it need an actual hechsher?
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1058 on: January 24, 2017, 05:50:54 AM »
Ocean spray cranberry juice cocktail had a triangle K, does it need an actual hechsher?
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