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Links to kosher symbol lists. Each list is obviously only as reliable as its source

cRc: http://www.crcweb.org/agency_list.php

KosherQuest: https://kosherquest.org/kosher-symbols/

Approved alcoholic drinks from the Rabbanut.  http://www.jerusalemkoshernews.com/wp-content/uploads/%D7%9E%D7%A9%D7%A7%D7%90%D7%95%D7%AA-%D7%97%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%99%D7%9D-%D7%9E%D7%90%D7%95%D7%A9%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%9D.pdf

These are NOT Orthodox: https://sites.google.com/site/nonorthodoxkosher/home (even though some may look legit)


Informative post regarding Kashrus Agencies
Every hashgacha has +&-.


You can also submit any kashrus questions at
https://www.askcrc.org/ask
https://oukosher.org/ask-kosher-question/
https://www.star-k.org/ask-rabbi choose General Consumer Kashrus Questions in the Subject/Topic Dropdown list
https://www.ok.org/contact/ choose Kosher in the Attention Dropdown list



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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1200 on: August 07, 2017, 03:50:31 PM »
I know many people would consider anything with a triangle K to be the same a without any kashrus certification.
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1201 on: August 07, 2017, 04:35:07 PM »
Never really got a straight answer but why does kellogs cereal products only place a K on the product versus the full hechsher like the ou or cof k who ever is backing the product?
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1202 on: August 07, 2017, 04:36:29 PM »
Never really got a straight answer but why does kellogs cereal products only place a K on the product versus the full hechsher like the ou or cof k who ever is backing the product?
The hechsher on Kellogs is KVH
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1203 on: August 07, 2017, 04:44:06 PM »
The hechsher on Kellogs is KVH
Only on items marked with a K or KD. Some items a totally treif.
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1204 on: August 07, 2017, 04:47:15 PM »
Only on items marked with a K or KD. Some items a totally treif.
Yup understood like that.
 Curios to why they don't write out the hechsher? And I remember calling up the Ou and even telling me it's fine as well as the star K having a list with all the cereals and there bracha and having the list which says all kellogs cereals when bearing an OU.. interesting when your telling me that it's KVH.
 Will post a picture here later when I get a minute.
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1205 on: August 07, 2017, 04:50:51 PM »
Yup understood like that.
 Curios to why they don't write out the hechsher?
Kellogs doesnt want to and KVH cant/doesnt force them. And the consumers obviously dont care either. Its in kellogs interest not to have a symbol, so that if theres ever a mistake, Kellogs have close to 0 liability. (They wont need to issue a recall, wont need new boxes, and wont get into an unlawful copywright usage suit.) You gotta wonder if that itself is a problem with the hasgocha---ie they really have no legal mirsas from committing a kashrus error.

IIRC, Hershey PA wanted a similar thing, but eventually the OU stood up to them and said that they either print the OU or nothing.
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1206 on: August 07, 2017, 04:51:52 PM »
Yup understood like that.
 Curios to why they don't write out the hechsher? And I remember calling up the Ou and even telling me it's fine as well as the star K having a list with all the cereals and there bracha and having the list which says all kellogs cereals when bearing an OU.. interesting when your telling me that it's KVH.
 Will post a picture here later when I get a minute.
This issue was just discussed on a Kashrus whatsapp group recently.

Here's a response someone posted:

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Because some companies maintain a k in case they change hashgachos, and they would have to reprint packaging. This issue happened to several cereal companies over the years, and this could be their reasoning

It was posted after a discussion about the following letter:
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1207 on: August 07, 2017, 04:55:02 PM »
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Because some companies maintain a k in case they change hashgachos, and they would have to reprint packaging. This issue happened to several cereal companies over the years, and this could be their reasoning

Imagine all companies start to use this excuse and I got to start shopping with a dictionary of the kosher products. ;) lol
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1208 on: August 07, 2017, 05:03:05 PM »
This issue was just discussed on a Kashrus whatsapp group recently.

Here's a response someone posted:

It was posted after a discussion about the following letter:

Of course these are all items which never had a hechsher. What were they expecting the gelatin to be?
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1209 on: August 07, 2017, 09:06:24 PM »
Never really got a straight answer but why does kellogs cereal products only place a K on the product versus the full hechsher like the ou or cof k who ever is backing the product?
pretty sure no one currently at Kellogg's even has a clear answer as to why they don't print a KVH. Trust me, the KVH lobbied long and hard for kellogs to print a KVH but the k and been so long grandfathered in that no one wanted to change the status quo.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1210 on: August 10, 2017, 01:53:06 PM »
Good?
If you don't care why would you comment?
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1213 on: August 10, 2017, 02:22:19 PM »
Good?
Rabbi Steinberg's son-in-law. There's a comment here with a letter from Rabbi Schechter answering various questions about his hashgacha of Bagel Boss:
http://thepeopleschampblog.blogspot.com/2008/10/five-towns-vaad-bagel-boss-and-messing.html?showComment=1226946060000#c8588608714417070788

Of particular note:
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First, it is not our intention to compete with the Vaad establishments. I recomend that if all things are equal that you that you patronize them. Quite frankly, their Kashrus standards are higher than ours.
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We get quality produce (which is rarely infested) and we wash them carefully. My Assistant and I spot check them to make sure. We do not have a Mashgiach washing them or a light box, etc. I tell people who have a higher standard to avoid eating these vegetables at Bagel Boss.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1214 on: August 10, 2017, 06:15:22 PM »
Is there still problems with the bugs with corn on the cob?
 
 
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1217 on: August 10, 2017, 09:04:31 PM »
Is there still problems with the bugs with corn on the cob?
Star K app says "remove peel and rinse"
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1218 on: August 10, 2017, 09:22:26 PM »
Star K app says "remove peel and rinse"
Is ok to do that before I put in the microwave, or would I need to do that after the heat cooked/baked it?
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1219 on: August 10, 2017, 09:35:15 PM »
Is ok to do that before I put in the microwave, or would I need to do that after the heat cooked/baked it?
My understanding is to do that while it's raw
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.