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Links to kosher symbol lists. Each list is obviously only as reliable as its source

cRc: http://www.crcweb.org/agency_list.php

KosherQuest: https://kosherquest.org/kosher-symbols/

Approved alcoholic drinks from the Rabbanut.  http://www.jerusalemkoshernews.com/wp-content/uploads/%D7%9E%D7%A9%D7%A7%D7%90%D7%95%D7%AA-%D7%97%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%99%D7%9D-%D7%9E%D7%90%D7%95%D7%A9%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%9D.pdf

These are NOT Orthodox: https://sites.google.com/site/nonorthodoxkosher/home (even though some may look legit)


Informative post regarding Kashrus Agencies
Every hashgacha has +&-.


You can also submit any kashrus questions at
https://www.askcrc.org/ask
https://oukosher.org/ask-kosher-question/
https://www.star-k.org/ask-rabbi choose General Consumer Kashrus Questions in the Subject/Topic Dropdown list
https://www.ok.org/contact/ choose Kosher in the Attention Dropdown list



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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1260 on: August 16, 2017, 01:51:10 PM »
CMIIW but that's not Texas...
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1261 on: August 16, 2017, 01:55:05 PM »
CMIIW but that's not Texas...
Correct I removed my post
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1262 on: August 16, 2017, 02:03:20 PM »
I think that it is a hechsher from Peru.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1263 on: August 16, 2017, 02:48:32 PM »
Anyone know anything about this Hechsher ?
Can you send a picture from the front of label?
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1264 on: August 16, 2017, 02:49:26 PM »
Can you send a picture from the front of label?
Don't have the can anymore.  It's from Peru if that helps.
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1265 on: August 16, 2017, 02:55:28 PM »
Don't have the can anymore.  It's from Peru if that helps.
Here you go
https://www.chowhound.com/post/kosher-certified-canned-artichoke-hearts-584364?page=2

From CRC http://www.crcweb.org/guide_to_purchase_fruit.php
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Canned Vegetable Guide

Most canned vegetables require a reliable hashgacha. There are some exceptions to the rule. Hearts of palm and artichoke bottoms under the supervision of the Peru Rabbinate are acceptable if only packed in water (no oil or vinegar). Artichoke hearts under the same hashgacha are not recommended. There may be other exceptions to the rule, but unless you know otherwise, all others would need a reliable hashgacha.
It's Rabbi Benhamu
http://www.kosherdelight.com/Peru_Synagogues.shtml

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000F4D50I

https://oukosher.org/kosher-alerts/american-rolands-artichoke-hearts/
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A limited quantity of American Roland canned artichokes mistakenly bear an OU symbol. The OU does not certify this product because of bedikas tolayim concerns.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1266 on: August 21, 2017, 11:20:07 AM »
There are some tasters choice instant coffee in can's which do not have an OU is that a concern?

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1267 on: August 21, 2017, 11:24:05 AM »
There are some tasters choice instant coffee in can's which do not have an OU is that a concern?


https://oukosher.org/blog/kosher-in-the-factory/coffee/
It is assumed that instant coffee does not require a hechsher, since coffee plants process just that and nothing else. Although there are forms of flavored instant coffees, the flavors are added at ambient temperatures after the drying process. Nevertheless, it is good and prudent practice to purchase instant coffee with a hechsher. Circumstances and processing methods are always subject to change, and require constant monitoring to confirm that these assumptions remain correct. Many years ago, Rav Yosef Eliyahu Henkin zt’l recommended that consumers purchase salt and other seemingly harmless products, with a hechsher only (see Eidus LeYisroel p. 132).

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1268 on: August 21, 2017, 11:26:57 AM »
https://oukosher.org/blog/kosher-in-the-factory/coffee/
It is assumed that instant coffee does not require a hechsher, since coffee plants process just that and nothing else. Although there are forms of flavored instant coffees, the flavors are added at ambient temperatures after the drying process. Nevertheless, it is good and prudent practice to purchase instant coffee with a hechsher. Circumstances and processing methods are always subject to change, and require constant monitoring to confirm that these assumptions remain correct. Many years ago, Rav Yosef Eliyahu Henkin zt’l recommended that consumers purchase salt and other seemingly harmless products, with a hechsher only (see Eidus LeYisroel p. 132).


My friend called nestle they said it doesn't have a certification since that plant processes milk products...
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1269 on: August 21, 2017, 11:38:24 AM »
My friend called nestle they said it doesn't have a certification since that plant processes milk products...
Makes sense.
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1270 on: August 21, 2017, 11:43:15 AM »
Makes sense.
Should that be a concern?
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1271 on: August 21, 2017, 11:44:26 AM »
Should that be a concern?
Don't see that it should but you can call the OU and see what they say.
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1272 on: August 21, 2017, 03:31:32 PM »
https://oukosher.org/blog/kosher-in-the-factory/coffee/
It is assumed that instant coffee does not require a hechsher, since coffee plants process just that and nothing else. Although there are forms of flavored instant coffees, the flavors are added at ambient temperatures after the drying process. Nevertheless, it is good and prudent practice to purchase instant coffee with a hechsher. Circumstances and processing methods are always subject to change, and require constant monitoring to confirm that these assumptions remain correct. Many years ago, Rav Yosef Eliyahu Henkin zt’l recommended that consumers purchase salt and other seemingly harmless products, with a hechsher only (see Eidus LeYisroel p. 132).


The whole assumption is based on an incorrect premiss. Typical OU
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1273 on: August 21, 2017, 03:51:21 PM »
The whole assumption is based on an incorrect premiss. Typical OU
Totally reckless as long as they can be meikal.
Their statement that coffee plants don't process other things is not contradictory to to them processing milk. The milk can be powdered milk mixed dry at ambient temperature to make various cappuccino type drinks. That is the most likely scenario. If you look around you will see that every major hechsher has this same opinion.
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1274 on: August 21, 2017, 03:59:01 PM »
Their statement that coffee plants don't process other things is not contradictory to to them processing milk. The milk can be powdered milk mixed dry at ambient temperature to make various cappuccino type drinks. That is the most likely scenario. If you look around you will see that every major hechsher has this same opinion.
What??!?
They also process ham. To go with the sandwich and the coffee. It's not contradictory because all the hechsherim rely on OU. (and that's why kids are otd. )


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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1275 on: August 21, 2017, 04:20:38 PM »
What??!?
They also process ham. To go with the sandwich and the coffee. It's not contradictory because all the hechsherim rely on OU. (and that's why kids are otd. )


You've been reading too much of Yudel Shain. You don't understand how what I wrote makes sense? If you don't understand the logic behind what I wrote then maybe you shouldn't be commenting about hechsherim. If there is an issue you have with it then say what it is.

The star-k, CRC etc do not just rely on the OU. Is there anyone who holds it DOES need a hechsher?
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1276 on: August 21, 2017, 04:26:57 PM »
What??!?
They also process ham. To go with the sandwich and the coffee. It's not contradictory because all the hechsherim rely on OU. (and that's why kids are otd. )
Kids are OTD because they eat OU? I can think of many more direct reasons. Never mind that the TAZ disagrees with you.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1277 on: August 21, 2017, 04:40:53 PM »
Hi,

    Wanted to know from the kashrus experts, what the deal is with drinks where the ingredients are all 100% kosher -- just doesn't make the kosher list because the factory uses the same machinery for other products that have grape ingredients.

E.g. 100% pure apple juice.

I am sure the factories would clean / flush the equipment out between the production of different products, as people have allergies. So the question is why one cannot rely on bitul?

Thanks

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1278 on: August 21, 2017, 05:01:25 PM »
Hi,

    Wanted to know from the kashrus experts, what the deal is with drinks where the ingredients are all 100% kosher -- just doesn't make the kosher list because the factory uses the same machinery for other products that have grape ingredients.

E.g. 100% pure apple juice.

I am sure the factories would clean / flush the equipment out between the production of different products, as people have allergies. So the question is why one cannot rely on bitul?

Thanks
There is a concept called bliyos which creates certain precise requirements to run kosher using non kosher equipment.
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1279 on: August 21, 2017, 05:05:14 PM »
You've been reading too much of Yudel Shain. You don't understand how what I wrote makes sense? If you don't understand the logic behind what I wrote then maybe you shouldn't be commenting about hechsherim. If there is an issue you have with it then say what it is.

The star-k, CRC etc do not just rely on the OU. Is there anyone who holds it DOES need a hechsher?
Saying that plants only make coffee, and therefore doesn't need a hechsher, does not mean they also make milk. That is so rediculous. If they process other things besides coffee they most definitely need a hechsher.
The OU was wrong about the premiss.

So now coffee is milchig , but it's ok because it's chlov hacompanies? How does that make sense to you?